Can I still get universal credit limited capability for work if I got a job now?

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I've been claiming for the past year under the supported group. I haven't had a psychotic episode in that time though so I doubt I'll get put in the support group again anyway. I literally just got a job and I'm in the process of letting universal credit know once I get paid. About the same time my benefits expired and I got the health questionnaire now. I work 14.25 hours a week with the possibility of working more. I just don't know whether it's worth applying for universal credit at all.I'll probably be put in the work group if anythingand I don't want to be chased around to get a job having to go to appointments etc when im settled in this job. I'll be earning enough in working tax credits and PIP anyway. So I'd miss out on the extra bit to not have to deal with that. So my question is can I get LCW while I'm working a minimum of 14.25 hours? Should I fill in these forms as usual? And will I get pressured into finding another job and doing other stuff if I'm working part time. Thanks in advsncr

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    No, you can't get LCW and UC. Unlike ESA permitted work doesn't exist under UC rules. You need to to tell UC ASAP as you've already started working.

    You mention tax credits and working? As you're now claiming Universal Credit you won't be able to apply for tax credits. That has now become part of UC.

    Or are you confused and do you claim ESA and not UC?

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      What about contributions based? I have let universal credit know my start date I'm just waiting for my pay day then I got to let them know when that is. I didnt think about that for work tax credits. I've asked for the forms already. I'll have to get on the case to UC about it

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      Universal Credit is extremely complicated and i'm still trying to get my head around it. I do know some things about it but i'll admit that my knowledge about this is no where near what it is for legacy benefits. Please ignore my advice above as it's incorrect.

      This is what i found out for you.

      If you are working and receiving Disability Living Allowance (DLA), Personal Independence Payment (PIP) or Attendance Allowance (AA) but are managing to earn more than the equivalent of 16 hours paid at  National Living Wage  you are automatically treated as being capable of work and so will not be able to qualify for any disability related elements paid on your Universal Credit

      If you are working and earning less than the equivalent of 16 hours paid at National Living Wage  and receiving Disability Living Allowance (DLA), Personal Independence Payment (PIP) or Attendance Allowance (AA) you will have to undergo a work capability assessment before you can be treated as eligible for any elements linked to your disability under UC.  You will be sent a UC 50 form. It is recommended that you get help with completing this form from an advisor as it can be difficult to get a positive outcome from this assessment when you are working. The assessment is the same as the assessment under ESA.

      So as long as you working under 16 hours at NMW then the answer is yes but as soon as you work more than that then you won't be able to claim LCW.

      Hope this helps.

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      The tax credits advice above is correct though. You won't be able to claim this if you're claiming UC because this is one of the benefits that UC has replaced. Once you claim UC you can't go back and claim the old benefits.

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      So from reading that would I need to get assessed for my Working Tax credit (UC equivalent) or will that automatically be done?
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    Hi

    You should advise UC about your job immediately , they will usually be advised by your employer of your earnings via the automatic reporting system of earnings link with the tax office.

    Tax credits stop when you claim UC and your total UC payment will include the element for this- working tax credit and child tax credit.

    Any child benefit however is still paid separately as is PIP.

    Don't wait to let the DWP know you are working.

    I'm not sure if you are aware UC is paid monthly in arrears, just to let you know for info 're budgeting.

    All the best

    Wendy xx

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      Hi Wendy,

      Lawrence is already claiming UC because he was claiming LCWRA (Support Group) he has decided to return to work.

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      Yeah I've let them know but they've instructed me to phone back once I know when I'm getting paid. I'm just confused how I'll get the work tax element of Universal credit. Will I still get the same amount as normal working tax credits? I've never been on them before. And How do they decide who gets working tax credit?

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      There's no working tax credits with UC. There's different elements to it but it's all under 1 payment. Entitled to have a guide available for the UC rates , that will tell you more. The rates you're entitled to will depend on circumstances. All figures in the guide are per month.

      There's also a UC benefits calculator on entitled to. Just google Universal credit calculator and you'll find it. Put all your details in there and it will tell you how much you can claim. I don't know your circumstances so can't tell you the answer to that i'm afraid.

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      Ok sorry to bombard you with questions this will probably be my last one before I phone them on Monday. Can you only get it if you get LCW or LCWRA? Do they not take PIP into account (as I presumed working tax credit would have decided by that). Or can you get working tax credit version of UC even if you're not on any JSA equivalent or LCW/LCWRA?

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      You have to forget about tax credits because you claim UC. Once you claim UC you can't go back and claim Tax credits. Your money will be one payment under UC. PIP isn't part of UC, it's totally different. People claim UC without having LCW or LCWRA because UC has replaced all of the 6 legacy benefits. There's different elements to UC and what you can claim depends circumstances and your earnings (for those that work)

      If you put all of your details into a Universal credit benefits calculator it will tell you what you can claim.

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      UC is made up of 1 standard allowance for your houshold plus any extra elements depending on circumstances.
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      I phoned them twice and was given 2 very different responses. One of them said I will get 0.63p for every pound over my work allowance. The other said it only applies to people with children now but I could still apply for LCW even though im working rolleyes
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      For those with a LCW the work allowance is higher, which basically means you can earn more money before it affects the amount of UC you can claim. The work allowance doesn't only apply to those with children, whoever told you that couldn't be more wrong.

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