Can't make a fist, straighten hand after wrist surgery 4 weeks ago
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Hi,
Would appreciate to please hear of others experiences.
Five weeks ago fell and broke my wrist. Shattered a few bones. Had a cast for a few days until surgery -4 weeks ago. They put a plate in my wrist. Then they put a short cast for about 10 days. On the 21st of July my surgeon removed my cast and put a bandage. Obviously my hand is swollen and at a position like the image i uploaded.
A few days ago i started occupational therapy and was given an orthosis. The therapist told me that my hand is at a bad position.
She told me that i need to have the orthosis and arm slong pouch on at all times.
With the orthosis on it is straighter but when i take it off i have to force it not to fall. I still can't make a fist and can't bend my thumb on its own. My hand is swollen.
Today, my wrist and arm feel sore.
This is my dominant hand.
Is it ok that i still cant make a fist or move my thumb on its own? That my hand is bent? I am a computer programmer. How long till i will be able to type? In 3 weeks the therapist will start working on moving my wrist.
Thanks
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valerierose collie12
Posted
Hi Fellow Wrist Recoverers, I thought I'd pull together what I have gleaned over the past 2 months since I had a plate and pegs and screws inserted into my right wrist to help heal a lot of crushed distal radius bone and had a pin drilled into my right thumb to fix two breaks above the joint (later found out that the bone below the joint also had been crushed).
What to expect from orthopedic surgeons and PAs: Don't expect to get any substantive advice at any point in time, especially from the surgeon. Right after surgery, she/he will tell you how the surgery went and you'll be given your discharge paper which has minimal guidance except for immediate post-surgery care/cautions.
In your post-op consultations, you'll get a physician's assistant who may or may not be helpful. Then, the surgeon will see you for a few minutes and won't appreciate any substantive questions. I pull out my list of questions and insist on going through them. Even so, it is like pulling teeth to get the dude to talk and then what is shared is usually the minimum required to answer my question. My PA also told me I wouldn't need physical therapy since I had pretty good movement 10 days after the surgery. BIG MISTAKE that I listened to him and it was wrong of him to say that I wouldn't need PT/OT.
What you should do: 1) Prepare thoroughly for your appointments and bring a list of questions - it's too easy to blow you off if you don't, and then you'll leave the consultation feeling frustrated and disappointed and still without answers/guidance from the "expert". 2) Consult with a physical therapist and/or an occupational therapist (who specializes in hands/wrists) SHORTLY AFTER SURGERY, if you can manage it. The therapist can help you keep track of your recovery progress, if she/he sees you early on - you'll have a baseline witnessed by someone other than yourself and this helps when you're feeling down. I saw both a PT and an OT because I had issues with my arm/shoulder/neck as a result of the way in which I fell. PTs don't know wrists and OTs don't know the rest of the arm/shoulder/neck. 3) Find a PT and/or OT who has a healing touch - seriously - and with whom you connect. It is really important to feel like you are with a healer. 4) Make the PT/OT provides LOTS of hands on therapeutic massage and manipulation - this is extremely beneficial. Too many of my sessions were wasted with a lot of instruction to me by the OT - I can go on YouTube and watch how to do exercises for free and at my leisure - I don't need to waste precious therapeutic time being taught. Some therapists won't be happy with doing mainly hands on work, but insist. I've found that I have made the most progress from the hands on work. It was as though my body was crying out to be helped to be put right. 5) Recognize the balance between functional pain and harmful pain (if you do yoga, you might be better at this) and do NOT let the PT/OT push you too hard. PT/OT hurts, but if you find that you're swollen up worse than before after a session, something is not in balance. I was having a hard time with supination and I had a few days off from OT and, Bam! I woke up one day and I had regained almost 180 degrees of supination. 6) Ask the PT/OT lots of questions (but don't let them stop their hands on work as they answer!). I have learned a lot about the effects of trauma on muscles, on nerves, on tendons and ligaments - and all these parts of your body respond differently to different types of therapeutic work.
Other things you may not be told: 1) The Mayo Clinic recommends 500mg of Vitamin C post-surgery which has been proven to help in recovery. Wish I'd known that and wish it had been on my post-op sheet! I started 2,000mg daily a few days ago. 2) Comfrey (knit bone) is beneficial for bone repair. 3) Bone broth is beneficial for bone repair - be careful of what you buy, though. The most potent bone broth is produced in a specific way (long, slow processing over a certain temp. 4) Arnica can help with swelling. 5) Self-massage really helps - it takes a while, since so many little nooks and crannies make up your hand/wrist and if you've had any trauma up the arm, you need to work on those areas, too. 6) Icing is fantastic - do it often! But find a good ice pack - not all ice packs are created equally. 7) Soaking your arm in warm water when you wake up and through the day and working/massaging your hand/wrist/arm when it's in the warm water is really helpful. 8) Get lots of rest. You may find yourself really exhausted after surgery and as you're healing and doing PT/OT. Recovery takes a lot out of you, so be gentle with yourself and get a lot of sleep/rest. 9) Set your sights on the long-term. It can take up to 2 years to fully heal from wrist surgery. 10) Your ulnar may also have been broken - apparently, this one can be painful for around 9 months, before it settles down. 11) Exercise both hands/wrists/arms together - I've found it helpful to do my exercises with the uninjured and injured arms together - gives a positive role model for the injured arm. (Sorry, if you've damaged both hands/wrists/arms - but maybe one is doing better than the other and you can still benefit from the role modeling). 12) Compression sleeves for fingers and hand/wrist/arm are great and help so much with swelling and with pain! Also, the cool tape with the channels built in to move fluids from the lymph nodes is really helpful. 13) INSIST on an MRI and/or CAT scan very early on if there is a chance you have soft tissue damage - the usual X-ray cannot show soft tissue issues, even if the surgeon/PA insist that "everything looks fine". They may be reluctant to do an MRI/CT scan because of insurance issues since it isn't standard. 14) Last, spend time visualizing your injured parts as healthy and functioning at 100% - the brain is powerful.
Hope this helps. Please add to the lists And best wishes for your recovery!
elaine93514 valerierose
Posted
Great advice...wish I had read this 11 months ago when I broke my distal radius. Still cannot bend my wrist either way & cannot make a complete clised fist.
Numerous PT/OT treatments few weeks after the break but not getting far.
Feeling of despondency hits me hard at times but I know I must not give up. Im almost 62....will I ever recover to near normality?
I pray I will...
harshita1211 valerierose
Posted
valerierose elaine93514
Posted
Hi elaine93514,
I'm so sorry to hear about your struggles. From the various docs and therapists with whom I've spoken over the past 2 months, they typically don't indicate that you'll get full range of motion again. However, as a Mayo Clinic doc said, "Most people don't need a full range of motion to do what they need to do in life." I do a lot of yoga, so I do want to aim for a full return. I'm 58, so there isn't much difference in our ages.
The biggest block that I have found in working towards flexibility is my brain telling me that the pain from pushing my ROM is not normal. Unless the pain is so excruciating that you are going to pass out, I think it is normal and functional pain. Your tendons and ligaments are tightened up from your break and the surgery and the post-surgery swelling and you probably have scar tissue that impedes motion, so you've got to work really hard on elongating and on eliminating the scar tissue.
You can also buy a TENS machine (if it's got enough voltage) and do ultrasound yourself.
I find the OT and PT is helpful only because the therapists can be a bit brutal in their manipulation and so they can help me see what is possible for pushing when I am on my own.
Don't give up and don't despair - both are counterproductive! You're not alone on this journey to recovery.
valerierose harshita1211
Posted
Hi Harshita,
As I said to Elaine, most docs/therapists don't see a return to full ROM. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't envision that for yourself! I know I am expecting that for my recovery. They also say it can take up to 2 years for the healing and the aching and stiffness to resolve and that no 2 cases are the same.
Keep pushing yourself. As one of my docs said at my 2-month point, "You can be aggressive with the flexibility work and take baby steps with the strength work."
I wish you a speedy recovery.
elaine93514 valerierose
Posted
Thank you for your response, I do have a Tens machine so I will give it a try...anything is worth a shot.
Feeling sorry for myself because its the 1st thing I think of in the morning & the last thing I think of before going to bed.
But I live in hope & when I see my surgeon next Monday I hope he can give me some positive reassurance.
Pain does bring me down but there are days when its tolerable & Im much more happier.
Got to & going to keep up with all treatments...only way is up!!!
monica54 collie12
Posted
Hi
Well four weeks since operation. Doing exercises three times a day -light exercises however today my hand and wrist are aching so much I'm putting this down to exercises and keeping my splint on for rest of evening now. Can't attempt to lift anything yet and just bored and fed up. Thank you in advance for any advice. Regards Monica
ooops64 collie12
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ooops64 collie12
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brian34439 collie12
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maria02000 collie12
Posted
Hi there, please let me know how your hand is doing. My hand looks like yours and my surgeon can't explain why, I went to a hand specialist and couldn't give me an answer why it's bent either. Very frustrated, went to get a CT scan and waiting for results, any response would be greatly appreciated.
brian34439 maria02000
Posted
All fingers bent at 2nd knuckle and look like I’ve been gripping a ball overnight. I can unfreeze them in hot water in the morning but not much grip strength. X-rays show no problems with the joints. If I clench my fist, no where near as well as my othe hand, it feels like the outside of the skin is tight tight and the pads are hard
I keep trying to get things better and ignore the pain while exercising my hand. Been told it could be two years before it comes right, if it comes right. Also the tendon from my little finger through my palm is getting thicker and lumpier.
Its depressing, I need my hand for Paragliding so it needs to get working soon.
lisa71754 collie12
Posted
I was involved in a hit and run car accident. My arm was broken in two places. I had surgery on Oct.20 th. 2017. During the surgery a plate was put in. Now I can't move my wrist, or make a fist, and I can't straighten out my fingers. I hope your arm healed because I am really getting worried. I am right handed and this is the arm that was broke.
valerierose collie12
Posted
Hi Fellow Broken Ones!
Forgive me for re-posting what I put up previously, but I have added a couple of additional things to the Other Things You May Not Be Told section (see the bold print for the new items).
Good luck and good health!
Hi Fellow Wrist Recoverers, I thought I'd pull together what I have gleaned over the past 2 months since I had a plate and pegs and screws inserted into my right wrist to help heal a lot of crushed distal radius bone and had a pin drilled into my right thumb to fix two breaks above the joint (later found out that the bone below the joint also had been crushed).
What to expect from orthopedic surgeons and PAs: Don't expect to get any substantive advice at any point in time, especially from the surgeon. Right after surgery, she/he will tell you how the surgery went and you'll be given your discharge paper which has minimal guidance except for immediate post-surgery care/cautions.
In your post-op consultations, you'll get a physician's assistant who may or may not be helpful. Then, the surgeon will see you for a few minutes and won't appreciate any substantive questions. I pull out my list of questions and insist on going through them. Even so, it is like pulling teeth to get the dude to talk and then what is shared is usually the minimum required to answer my question. My PA also told me I wouldn't need physical therapy since I had pretty good movement 10 days after the surgery. BIG MISTAKE that I listened to him and it was wrong of him to say that I wouldn't need PT/OT.
What you should do: 1) Prepare thoroughly for your appointments and bring a list of questions - it's too easy to blow you off if you don't, and then you'll leave the consultation feeling frustrated and disappointed and still without answers/guidance from the "expert". 2) Consult with a physical therapist and/or an occupational therapist (who specializes in hands/wrists) SHORTLY AFTER SURGERY, if you can manage it. The therapist can help you keep track of your recovery progress, if she/he sees you early on - you'll have a baseline witnessed by someone other than yourself and this helps when you're feeling down. I saw both a PT and an OT because I had issues with my arm/shoulder/neck as a result of the way in which I fell. PTs don't know wrists and OTs don't know the rest of the arm/shoulder/neck. 3) Find a PT and/or OT who has a healing touch - seriously - and with whom you connect. It is really important to feel like you are with a healer. 4) Make the PT/OT provides LOTS of hands on therapeutic massage and manipulation - this is extremely beneficial. Too many of my sessions were wasted with a lot of instruction to me by the OT - I can go on YouTube and watch how to do exercises for free and at my leisure - I don't need to waste precious therapeutic time being taught. Some therapists won't be happy with doing mainly hands on work, but insist. I've found that I have made the most progress from the hands on work. It was as though my body was crying out to be helped to be put right. 5) Recognize the balance between functional pain and harmful pain (if you do yoga, you might be better at this) and do NOT let the PT/OT push you too hard. PT/OT hurts, but if you find that you're swollen up worse than before after a session, something is not in balance. I was having a hard time with supination and I had a few days off from OT and, Bam! I woke up one day and I had regained almost 180 degrees of supination. 6) Ask the PT/OT lots of questions (but don't let them stop their hands on work as they answer!). I have learned a lot about the effects of trauma on muscles, on nerves, on tendons and ligaments - and all these parts of your body respond differently to different types of therapeutic work.
Other things you may not be told: 1) The Mayo Clinic recommends 500mg of Vitamin C post-surgery which has been proven to help in recovery. Wish I'd known that and wish it had been on my post-op sheet! I started 2,000mg daily a few days ago. 2) Comfrey (knit bone) is beneficial for bone repair. 3) Bone broth is beneficial for bone repair - be careful of what you buy, though. The most potent bone broth is produced in a specific way (long, slow processing over a certain temp. 4) Arnica can help with swelling. 5) Self-massage really helps - it takes a while, since so many little nooks and crannies make up your hand/wrist and if you've had any trauma up the arm, you need to work on those areas, too. 6) Icing is fantastic - do it often! But find a good ice pack - not all ice packs are created equally. 7) Soaking your arm in warm water when you wake up and through the day and working/massaging your hand/wrist/arm when it's in the warm water is really helpful. 8) Get lots of rest. You may find yourself really exhausted after surgery and as you're healing and doing PT/OT. Recovery takes a lot out of you, so be gentle with yourself and get a lot of sleep/rest. 9) Set your sights on the long-term. It can take up to 2 years to fully heal from wrist surgery. 10) Your ulnar may also have been broken - apparently, this one can be painful for around 9 months, before it settles down. 11) Exercise both hands/wrists/arms together - I've found it helpful to do my exercises with the uninjured and injured arms together - gives a positive role model for the injured arm. (Sorry, if you've damaged both hands/wrists/arms - but maybe one is doing better than the other and you can still benefit from the role modeling). 12) Compression sleeves for fingers and hand/wrist/arm are great and help so much with swelling and with pain! Also, the cool tape with the channels built in to move fluids from the lymph nodes is really helpful. 13) INSIST on an MRI and/or CAT scan very early on if there is a chance you have soft tissue damage - the usual X-ray cannot show soft tissue issues, even if the surgeon/PA insist that "everything looks fine". They may be reluctant to do an MRI/CT scan because of insurance issues since it isn't standard. 14) Last, spend time visualizing your injured parts as healthy and functioning at 100% - the brain is powerful. 15) Ask your PT to hook you up to the H Waves machine (there is also a home H Wave and you can get a prescription from your doctor, if you're in the US) and do both kinds of pulsation at as high an intensity as you can possibly bear (intermittent pulsing for loosening up and flexibility and the steady tingling for tricking your brain out of feeling pain) - Oh my gosh! - it is a miracle machine - a godsend! I had a session yesterday and when the PT unhooked me, there was NO PAIN/NO ACHE in my wrist. 16) CBD Oil - much better option than Ibuprofen or stronger painkillers and it also heals bone and soft tissue and works for chronic pain (among many other things). 17) Floss bands and balls. 18) Excellent YouTube videos
This link and is from a mobility expert who is a physical therapist. The second one is managed by a chiropractor. If your orthopaedic surgeon is convinced you are 'healed', you ultimately should be able to resolve your pain with the guidance offered below. Keep in mind it will be a grind. That said, I would expect at least a 3-6 month window of time for you to achieve a pain-free state. I would recommend devising an exercise routine for the wrist that includes a variety of exercises... Though they may recommend doing them thrice weekly, I chose to do the ones for my shoulder daily. When I noticed less and less pain, I backed off to performing the exercises only prior to my regular workout routines (regardless of type of workout, be it a boxing day or a regular body part weightlifting day), etc.[/b]
Hope this helps. Please add to the lists And best wishes for your recovery!
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Mom23kidoz collie12
Posted
Hi all, I am new to this group. Fell and broke my dominant hand wrist 2 weeks later they decided I needed a plate and screws.Up until the surgery, I was able to move my fingers. Surgery was two day's ago and my fingers really hurt to move or bend them.
Have any of you had this experience or am I just a whiner?
Tia
sophia_99575 Mom23kidoz
Posted
Hi, it is 8.50 over here and I have a 10.30 wrist appt. Altho, I did not have surgery I just want to reassure you that you are not whiney, this injury is enough to make a grown man cry and often does. maybe the surgery bruised your finger nerves temporarily, i would definitely get quick attention from your surgeon. don't wait and see, you are too important for that. my break was on my non dominant hand and 6 months ago yet most days I still have a little weep, sometimes not so little either! I am sure some more experienced members of this great support site will be able to offer more useful advice. I wish you a speedy and thorough recovery.(excuse no capitals, i am typing 1 handed.)good wishes.
rachel48805 Mom23kidoz
Posted
Hi Tia--I've been lurking here a month or more. Broke my wrist 12/6/17 and had surgery 12/21/17, with a plate and a bunch of screws. You were in very early days when you posted this--how are you now? I had no idea, until I found this thread, how long recovery takes. I think I'm on schedule with recovery, but my hand is still swollen and very weak, and fingers painful to bend. Working on the range of motion. And, how could you have been a whiner just two days after surgery??!! It's amazing you were able to get on the computer and type.
--Rachel