Can you have pmr without stiffness.

i vote for yes. sometimes i have pain and i walk like a duck. sometimes i just have pain; sometimes i just walk like a duck. its a crap shoot.

if you are asking about onset symptoms, then i have to say it depends. my onset pain was so bad that i dont recall stiffness; the pain totally domineered everything. my previous response was based on how i feel now, 2 years later.

not sure....my pain/stiffness is mostly in hands/fingers/wrists and shoulders/forearms....not so much hips...but DEFINITELY I've got stiffness in a Major way!!

l had stiffness along with shoulder and upper arm and wrist pain but l don't think you have to.

In my case the pain was so bad I didn't notice the stiffness if there were any.

in the beginning , before being diagnosed, there was very strong pain in my hip/upper leg area as well as shoulders and back. PMR pain is bilateral, although it may not be as strong on both sides. It became progressively worse and I could not turn in bed or get out of bed on my own. At that point PAIN was so dominant that I was not aware of any stiffness.

But you need to get proper diagnosis, because some other conditions can have similar symptoms. In a process of diagnosing PMR, they will try to eliminate all other possible reasons for muscle pain until you are left with "just" PMR . There is NO direct test to diagnose PMR .

i had severe pain, but would not particularly call it stiffness. it also was NOT worse in the morning than at night.

I'm with Ptolemy, initially my pain was so bad, i could not differentiate with stiffness. As I got more into the the disease, I Recognized the stiffness. Example, unable to go through a drive-through ATM because I had no range of motion in my shoulder .

Then I realized if I could walk briskly in the morning, my symptoms would mitigate.

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Thank you for your replys

I am still not sure I have PMR - I had no pain in shoulders and arms - just in hips and legs with pain and stiffness which decreased as I walked around but came back again after i had sat down for a period of time.....having said that I couldn't turn around/over in bed easily but that was mainly because of my lower half.....but it seems everyone is different here, in varying degrees of symptoms.....a very curious disease indeed....x