Cant make decision between Surgery or Radiation
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Hi! 68 years old, just diagnosed with prostate Cancer. Thankfully localized however 7 positive cores, Gleason 7 in 6 and Gleason 6 in only 1. Psa 9.6. Seems results are the same with either radiation or Surgery and can't understand how to make this decision as doctors are telling me all present with same odds. 2 biggest things on my mind is 1) why surgery if results are the same as radiation and 2) with radiation, I am frightened of having to look over my shoulder for 2 years, watching PSA potentially bounce up and down and not know if cancer really gone. And if unsuccessful, there's no surgery as an option after that. Please help!
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gale10132 jerald1234
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I chose radiation due to what I felt would be best for the least amount of problems. This has been the case. I have experienced little to no problems with anything.
rick75354 jerald1234
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derek51088 jerald1234
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barney34567 derek51088
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But you forgot to add that bowel damage is a known possible consequences of radiation.
derek51088 barney34567
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barney34567 derek51088
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Over time I managed with 2 pads a day and even slept with a pad.
And soon after on 1 pad for a month or so.
I did kegel exercises twice pre op but never post op as I felt they were a load of hooey. A week ago, just before the 4 month anniversary of surgery I stopped wearing pads altogether.
In in a week only twice did I leak, but even then it was minimal.
I am very much elated about this.
Of course at the begining of the pad wearing I made the mistake, that most men make, where in order to limit any leaking during the time of pad wearing I minimised my intake of fluids.
Big mistake to cheat the kidneys of fluid just to stay dry.
I now drink at will and living in Australia where it is summer, I can honestly say I am drinking as much as I ever did in the hot weather and so far, 4 days of no pads and no leaks.
I wish you the same good luck.
stewarta barney34567
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Barney: I too live in Australia, and I too had Robot-Assisted surgery, but some nine months ago. I had almost no leakage from the get-go, and moved to Tena brand shields (Chemist Warehouse) as insurance against leakage when drinking red wine. Only red wine seems to stimulate my bladder to want to pee for about half an hour.
I don't wear one at all now, and I don't restrict fluid intake.
Stewart
barney34567 stewarta
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Good to hear from you Stewart. I too wore Tena, also from Chemist Warehouse.
And good to hear you don't (and didn't) restrict fluid intake.
Interesting that red wine stimulates your bladder. I can't say if red wine would be a problem for me because I am off alcohol given I have another medical matter which is aggravated by alcohol.
Sudden moves and occassional coughing make me leak. But such small amounts, I would only consider pads (for an emergency) if I travelled away from home for say a holiday.
vincentb jerald1234
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Hi I'm 67 had prostactomy 12 months ago I hadpsa 14.8
gleason 8 .fit for age hobby scuba .post opp Gleason 9 .
my last 5 pas tests 0.05 all the same I had clear margins my cancer was in both lobes contained .my dad had prostate cancer then died of bowel cancer. It was bad seeing his steady decline I was with I'm as he passed
that's why I chose the opp. I am now almost back to normal
were the thinnest pads just in case .feel I could dispense with them
mine was a non nerve sparing opp yet I still have slight erection
hope yours goes as well as mine
best regards
david41094 jerald1234
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I was 57 G/S 8, PSA 9.7 and went with IMRT. I have no regrets - no incontinence but slight loss of libido/ED which will be helped chemically. I didn't want to trust the variables involved with surgery. Each to their own.
Rick802 jerald1234
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I don't profess to be an expert on the subject, but here's my experience:
In 2009 my biopsy and Gleason score results were almost identical to yours. The risk of recurrence was the same regardless of whether I went with surgery or external beam radiation therapy. I went with radiation for two reasons (1) the side effects were listed as lower probability with EBRT, and (2) I had an MRI which showed cancer cells on the edge of the prostate, so it was possible to radiate that area to kill off those cancer cells. I am now 67, and seven years out of my original treatment more cancer showed up in my prostate. On the 13th of this month I underwent a Salvage Robotic Radical Prostatectomy, and all seems very positive at the moment. In salvage surgery there is little that can be done with regard to nerve sparing, but there are some very helpful solutions for ED. My incontinence seems consistent with those who have undergone a normal RP as my surgeon was able to avoid any damage to my spicther muscles. So far I feel good about things, and my surgeon feels that I should be cancer free (subsequent testing will confirm or deny this belief).
There is no right or wrong answer, you need to do what you are most comfortable with. Two things to consider is (1) EBRT is not a dead end if cancer reoccurs, and (2) Men who have had RP surgery also have a risk of recurrence.
Hopefully some some of this will be helpful to you as you navigate this confusing plethora of options we all find ourselves constantly evaluating. Best of luck to you!
barney34567 Rick802
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I agree with Rick. But Understand that every treatment comes with certain risks. The main risk of radiation is that it may give you bowel problems as parts of the bowel and rectum may inadvertently by radiated.