Cardioversion failed

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Hi guys, Lankylass here. You all may remember my first AF episode and my 'successful' cardioversion last October. Well, yesterday I woke up and felt that familiar flutter/palpitation. Took my pulse and it was all over the place. I went to my GP and he rang my nearest A and E, but there were no cardiologists available. He asked if I wanted to go to Withington, a south Manchester hospital which specialises in heart/chest diseases and hoped that I may be 'converted' back as it had only just 'flipped' back. After a day being prodded, poked and tested I had to stay on the acute medical ward. Saw a registrar this morning and although he tried for me I had no luck in going for a 'quick' cardivert back. So I am back on the 5mg of Bisoprolol morning and night. I have just walked the 500yds to the polling station and feel exhausted, that old familiar 'knocking' is back too. I was really hoping to get it done today. Oh, well, back with the AF brigade. Keep well everyone. 

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    Not pleased to see you back get well again get your life back hope you get sorted asap good luck lankylass
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      Hi Popeye, I have been reading about you too, hope you are keeping well. Seeing the doc this morning to see if I can 'get back into the saddle', would like another cardioversion as soon as poss if I can. I am already on the warfarin so hopefully it may be quicker than the last time. Keep well. Cheers
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    Sorry to hear that. I am in the same boat. I went to A&E on March 28th with OTT BP and the feeling of AF without my heart rate being more than 90bpm. They kept me for two nights and as I went back into sinus rhythm on my own and they sent me home dsaying that they would arrange for a seven day ECG monitor and an appointment with a cardiologist 'within three months'. I pointed out that my GP had referred me back to cardiology in January because of concern at my low heart rate.and that I had expected an appointment soon. Waiting for the ECG sems to have  put me down the list.

    The discharging doctor said that what I need is an ablation to stop it coming back. I commented that one cardiologist at the hospital had said at medical conference that in the UK only 15% of people who need ablation ever get it.

    The following Saturday my BP dropped alarmingly and I have been in continous AF since then but still without a heart rate being much over 80. Mind you my previous heart rate was usually in the 40's. My GP only prescribed 1.25mg of Bisoprolol and even that has given me side effects.

    I will be having the ECG monitor on May 12th.

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    Dear lankylass, I do admire your up-beat attitude... That in itself will keep the good hormones working in your heart's favor....  and you are lucky... you are only on 5mg... I take it -  that is 5mg once/day..? ...........I am on 10mg/day for about 15 yrs now ... plus 6.25mg HCTZ - a diuretic ... talk about tired !!!  ...... and that swimming dizzyness, lack of equilibrium, and the weight gain and the "who gives a hoot" attitude that takes over at times....and the ringing crickets in the ears....  As long as you can muster the days with only 5mg... you  are good to go, till they can attempt another conversion.  I suppose you had a synchronized electrical cardioversion, not  a Defibrillation.... and I so hope the next attempt does bring you success ... praying for you to get better days ahead ...  I wish you well !!!

     

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      Hi, Thanks for replying, will take me a bit to reply to all as have had so many responses, obviously a lot of people in the same boat!! I am on 10mg of bis a day now!! 5mg in the morning and 5mg in the evening. When I started with AF last June the doc put me on the 10mg a day split between morning and night. I found this exhausting, not all the time but most. After cardioversion I stayed on 5mg bis in the morning. I was fine with this, no tiredess at all which makes me think that the tiredness was down to the combination of AF with beta blockers. I haven't really been outside walking since being in hospital. Last week in Scotland I was walking all day up to 7 miles some days, Yesterday I couldn't even walk to the polling station, popped in on way home from hospital!! I'm not sure what you mean about synchronized electrical cardioversion. It was just called a cardioversion where I was 'put to sleep' for about 5 mins and pads put on my front and back. Seeing doc today at half ten so hope to start the process again. Cheers, keep well. 
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    Sorry to hear you are back on the trail again.  It can sometimes be a long one and there are many successes and also failures.  I have had two cardioversions following ablations, but both failed eventually and in the end, on the cardiac ward, I opted for a pacemaker and AV node ablation (given a choice between that and increasing and additional drugs) which I have not so far regretted.  My paroxysmal  AFib and alternating flutter are still there, it is just that I don't feel ill with it any more.  I am on anti-coagulation (thankfully dabigitran and not Warfarin) for life, but although I shall never be quite as energetic as I once was, life now is good and tolerable..    So there are many milestones on this road and some are lucky and others not as lucky.  An ablation which only lasts a year or so is still worth having and maybe probably and eventually it will be up to you to decide what you feel is best for you.  
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      Hi, Thanks for sharing your experiences. The hospital doc and my GP who I saw yesterday are both writing to the cardiologist at Oldham who I saw initially and are recommending another cardioversion. Perhaps I had rose coloured glasses but I did think the CV would last, I felt great and there was no reason why the AF should click back, no stress, hadn't been on any alcohol for 4 days, (had a couple of drinks the week before as on holiday), no physical exertion at all. Just flipped back!! I don't seem to have the terrible 'knocking' in my chest like I had when I was first diagnosed, that was awful at night and never seemed to abate. It's early days yet but I hope it does not return. I wonder if anyone has had a really successful CV, one which has lated for a few years. I have asked this before but haven't had any replies, that would be quite heartening, pardon the pun!! Keep well, Cheers. 
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    Sorry you've been through all this. My AF was found before a minor op 3 years ago. Consultant said not worth a cardio version as probably had it for years! He didn't listen to my heart either and turns out I had a leaky valve which I eventually had repaired 18 months ago . During the op they did the 'Maze' procedure to cure the AF but I just found out that tho it worked initially, I am back with AF!!! So will just have to accept it can't be cured, and keep taking the warfarin !!!
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    Hi Lankylass, Maggie here again - sorry your cardiovert didn't last, will be sending positive vibes for the next one. I had my ablation in March so about 9 weeks ago, tried decreasing pills but didn't work so had to go back up again. Feel ablation hasn't helped at all yet but still 3 weeks before the magical 3months that it can take for full effect - am still hopeful! I see my EP in June and if still getting AF with symptoms and he offers another ablation I think I'll accept - would regret not trying everything I can. I'm sure I'll have to wait several months but that's a fact of life under the Health system anywhere.

    Keep your sense of humour and all the best. Cheers Maggie

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      Hi maggie i go in june to cardiologists new one.im going for ablation they could put copper pipes in my chest and a fishes heart i would try anything to rid myself of this evil af also want answers why i was discharged in november last year to start again in january and its not been one week i have not had a af episode 2 ecgs at doctors have caught it now ive had time to bone up on af and speaking with fellow sufferers i have questions i want peoper answers to not fobbing off with crap
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      Hi Popeye

      I can hear how fed up and weary you are of this rotten complaint which is so life changing as regards all former activities and plans, but this is the hand we have been dealt and we just have to find our way through all the alternatives and arrive at the best solution individually.  Some procedures succeed, some succeed only for a time, and others fail almost immediately.  I don't think even cardiologists can predict the outcome.  For instance, you can see my history here, but my husband who was in permanent AFib for almost eight years, had a cardioversion which initially failed after about four months, then an ablation which failed after about the same period and then went back into sinus and has been okay for about ten months now.  He can take any amount of Bisoprolol without any ill effects, whereas I get wiped out on this drug. He has come to the decision not to try ablation again if the AFib returns (it probably will as this tends to be the nature of the complaint), and that is his choice - remember, no one can make you do anything you don't agree to.  I am coming to love my pacemaker, though it doesn't protect me from AFib, but only the symptoms.    It is easy to become despondent about the whole scenario, but chin up and keep hoping they find the right solution for you, they usually do, but not without a whole lot of mucking you about first....!

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      Hi Maggie, Thanks for that, I remember writing to you and Soobee when I first got the dreaded Af, just got a nice message from my family in Auckland, not far from where you are. I read about your ablation, yourself and a chap named Allen I think had them at the same time. I thought that the ablation kicked in right away, like the CV. Did you have a CV? Don't seem to remember that. Yes, you must try everything, it's a pig of a disease, and every one is slightly different too. Keep healthy and keep in touch. 
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      Thanks for this Josephine, it's an interesting way to look at it all  and what you say makes a lot of sense.  I'm very well now (on Flec+Bisop) but I know how depressing it could be at times and feel very sorry for Lankylass, Popeye, Derek and all the others here still suffering these awful symptoms. I do think your advice is good though... there's help out there if you can just find the right meds/treatment for you.... so hang in there folks!
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