Cataract surgery, can see the edge of IOL

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I had cataract surgery in Nov/15 other eye Dec/16 Have a black curtain at the top of vision that I see all the time. Started afterYag laser (right eye) Am told the IOL slipped & I'm seeing the edge of the IOL. Now says I can have surgery to replace it or get used to it, it's also cloudy, Websites say 5 months after is too late. Scar tissue has formed already. More to this, has anyone had this problem, or had surgery done twice?

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    I have had a shadow but at the corner of the eye treated, so left side of my left eye. It bothers me a great deal and is called Negative Dysphotopsia. I have read nothing about a shadow at the top so your surgeon may be right? Asking questions helps though. I understand that laser's are used to clear up cloudiness that can build up after an op, but that it usually clears it. The brain normally gets rid of the shadows but mine has let me down, so far, after a year and a half. Now been given eye drops to shrink the eyeball by reducing blood pressure in that eye. In all other respects the operation was very good but dark shadows can be very irritating. Try looking up what I have put below, which may help? Good luck. I suspect you are UK based, as I am, as approaches can be more interventionist in the USA?

    Demystifying Dysphotopsia

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    If the IOL "slipped" I have to wonder if they can reposition it, they sometimes tie dislocated IOLs to other parts of the eye. Perhaps you might get a 2nd opinion with a surgeon experienced at dealing with this complication to clarify your options and see if another surgeon recommends the same treatment.  As the other poster indicated, what you describe about seeing the edge of the IOL is usually described as a negative dysphotopsia. If it isn't due to lens slippage, they sometimes recommend a piggyback 2nd lens, or sometimes a lens exchange to a different size/shape/material lens.

    re: "Websites say 5 months after is too late."

    I'm not sure where you found that information, since  unless you have some rare complication preventing it, they can do an IOL exchange at anytime, even if  it might be easier early on in some ways. The issue of more  concern isn't the time since surgery, it is the fact that you had a YAG. The lens exchange should still be possible, but it means the odds are that the IOL needs to be placed outside the capsular bag. The odds are the results will be  just as good, and the procedure safe, its just slightly more complicated. Usually they prefer to put lenses inside the capsular bag, but after a YAG there is apparently a good chance that when the old IOL is removed that the capsular bag won't remain intact and they need to place the IOL outside the bag and fasten it to the eye. The usual IOLs they place in the capsular bag are 1 piece IOLs (e.g. premium IOLs are almost all 1 piece), but outside the bag they need to use 3 piece lenses. If you are just getting a monofocal lens than that isn't an issue you need to be concerned about.  

     

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      Hi

      I didn't write the whole thing about the surgery. The capsule was punctured while removing the cataract. Dr. tried to put lens in(Multifocal Toric Soft Lens) Naturally, it wouldn't fit. But it unfolded when he put it in then had to remove it by making the incision in my eye bigger. Once it opens it can't be folded inside the eye to remove. So then he had to put a different lens,soft & part of it is hard, so he said. So it slipped after 3 months and after Yag. The article I found was

      "Cataract Surgery Complications- All About Visions .com"

      It states

      "If IOL dislocation occurs following a recent surgery, repositioning the lens should be done soon.This is because lens implants begin to scar into place approximately three months after original implantation and can become more difficult to remove"

      It's too scarry to think about having another surgery that can do more damage. How do they remove a lens that's already fused to the eye?

      I can't imagine them pulling it apart.

      Sorry I didn't mention all this the first post, it takes me forever to type a lot. Also the Multifocal didn't work even in the first eye he did. I have to wear progressive lens glasses, these aren't working for me. I can't do close up work. He's suggesting I use reading glasses, but it gives me headaches after putting them on & off all the time I'm working. I have to take them off if I waht to see further than maybe 2 feet. Very annoying. I paid a lot of money to get rid of my glasses. He also suggested removing the lens, but the next one (if it can be done) would be a plain one, So I'd have 2 different lens and would have to use reading glasses for sure. He says I couldn't wear progressives.

      Wow! this is a lot of typing for me. Now my eyes are heavy & making me sleepy, that's the other problem.

      Thanks for your imput. Nice to hear dif. peoples stories.

       

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      The quote you give seems a bit unclear since it is talking about respositioning at first, but then refers to removing the lens. It may be that it was a typo and they meant it'd be more difficult to reposition (rather thann remove) within the capsular bag due to the  scar tissue. However from your description it sounds like the lens may not have been placed into the capsular bag to begin with, which is why they needed to use a different lens, presumably a 3 piece (I'm assuming  a monofocal) rather than the 1 piece. 

      In that case they aren't repositioning the lens within the bag, but likely merely tying it to another part of the eye to hold into place in the correct position.  A surgeon would need to look at the situation and determine what they can do. The issue partly seems to be whether seeing the edge of the lens is due to it being out of position, in which case its not clear why they would replace it rather than repositioning it (oops, I just realized I've been ignoring the comment that the lens is "cloudy", which I guess may be the reason, sorry I missed that). Also if seeing the lens edge isn't due to the position, but merely the type of lens, then perhaps a lens with a different size/shape might avoid you seeing the lens.

      If you have problems with the other eye also, I'm really wondering if a 2nd opinion with another surgeon might be useful to consider. The vast majority of people have good vision with multifocals. The usual complaint with multifocals that leads people to consider getting a different lens isn't their visual quality, but that they have problems with halos&glare when driving at night. I'm wondering if either the first eye has residual astigmatism that isn't corrected (if its a toric lens, perhaps its not rotated correctly or the power is wrong), or if the lens power was off. 

      If progressive glasses aren't working well for you, I wonder if old fashioned bifocals might work better if you mostly need them for working.  It could be that the multifocal is complicating wearing progressive glasses, did you have luck with them before cataract surgery? (I'm assuming you were old enough to have presbyopia before your surgery and needed them).

      If  you swap the multifocal for a monofocal lens, you would have two monofocals, and many people with 2 monofocals wear progressive glasses so it isn't clear why he'd say that wasn't an option. Back before my problem cataract appeared, I hadn't liked progressive glasses and instead wore multifocal contact lenses, which would also be an option if you are comfortable wearing contacts (if you hadn't tried them in the last several years, they are more comfortable than they used to be in decades past). 

      Its also possible if you do lens swaps that they could set your eyes for monovision (one eye to see nearer and one eye further) to reduce the need for glasses, or you could also wear contact lenses set for monovision. 

      I have  Symfony IOLs rather than multifocal IOLs.   I'd just read alot about cataract surgery issues since I had a complication that seems to be unrelated to the lens itself, which seems a good choice. 

       

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      Article did say "more difficult to remove" The capsule was punctured so the lens is sitting on the capsule, how, I don't know.

      I've always worn progressives. Never had problems.I seen another specialist before Yag laser, he said the mulitfocal lens very seldom work. That office has 7 eye Dr's none of them use mulitfocals lens. But it was too late for me, I already paid for them & had it done. The muli doesn't work in my other eye. But like you said, maybe he put the wrong ones in. I don't know. I know I don't want to use reading glasses & I had contact lens in right eye after surgery for the left eye for about 2 weeks. It was horrible, I could never wear them. My thing is, how do they remove the lens after 5 months with all the scar tissue. I remember being told the tissue would grow around the lens. So I can't see how they'd dislodge the lens from all the scarring. But maybe there is way. I'm seeing a different Dr. in 3 weeks to see what his opinion is.

       

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      Again, I think the article you quoted might perhaps have had a typo in it and they wrote "removed" instead of "repositioned", that the issue is repositioning a lens with scar tissue. I had a consult with one of the most prominent cataract surgeons in the US while trying to figure out my complication (which turned out not to be related to the lens itself, but my iris) and he said that if needed I could have a lens exchange  at any point in the future, whether is months or decades. Articles around the net that I saw confirmed that. That said, each person is different and its possible there is something unusual about your case, but what I've read suggested its possible in almost all cases even after a YAG, the only issue is that the lens may need to be placed outside the bag and it sounds like may be what you have anyway. 

      It does make sense that a multifocal might complicate the use of progressive glasses, but there is no reason monofocals would since they are just single focus lenses, they just leave you with the equivalent of a high degree of presbyopia. Actually I do think I may have heard that progressive glasses may be a bit harder to adapt to when the reading add is higher, with larger degree of myopia, but its still likely not to be  a problem.

      Its unfortunate you had back luck with contacts, I'm wondering if perhaps you might have dry eyes or something. 

      Studies show the vast majority of patients are happy with multifocal lenses and that they "work". The usual reason for a lens exchange isn't that they don't "work" in terms of visual quality, but that people have problematic halos and glare. Unfortunately it is the case that a very tiny minority do opt to have a lens exchange due to halos&glare, and so many surgeons avoid that because they don't want to deal with unhappy patients. So many surgeons are conservative, they figure that most patients won't know any better and do the easiest thing which is a monofocal lens. In addition due the fact that monofocals are covered by insurance or government plans, most people would wind up with them anyway which is added incentive for doctors to not take time on the minority who do. Also, the earliest models of multifocals weren't as good, just as earlier generations of cell phones weren't, and some surgeons got turned off and didn't bother checking into later generations to realize how much better they are. 

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    Helen happy to hear you are getting another opinion. Do you live in a large metro area per chance?  It would be worthwhile to get an opinion from the best surgeon around (not hard to find out who is the best). I gather from the length of time you had to wait foran appointment  (3months) that you are going to see an esperienced surgeon with an excellent reputation.  Can you get in to see him/her earlier>  Either your doc can help you (if he knows about the referral) or you can get your internist to refer you or you can ask to speak to his admin assistant and tell her this may be time  sensitive, given the difficulties you are having.  Good luck!

    Carol

    PS: I am in a situation somewhat related to yours...I got an IOL in the wrong power and having a devil of a time reading print.  Can only handle print when enlarged on a computer, but have varying opinions as to whether it can be redone. Good luck to you!!!

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    I had cataract surgery done Oct/2020 and I had progressive IOL put in - I had trouble from the start ,it didn't feel right and I had the dark shadow, sometimes like a reflection in the lower corner of my eye. The halo's at night were extremely bright and I thought I needed laser surgery also. I had a second opinion and the next doctor said everything looks good to him. Six months later I told my doctor again, it's not getting better, things are getting blurry now. As afraid as I was, she took out the progressive lens and the next day I asked how the surgery went. She said it went great, when she made the incision the lens just popped out because one of the wings had not opened properly.

    I now have the regular IOL and it's been a month and no problems at all. I am still afraid to have the other eye surgery but I know it must be done, it never gave me a problem.

    The doctors really need to listen to us when we think there is something wrong - I'm no doctor, but I try to keep them informed on how I'm doing.

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      If the other eye has never given you a problem why would you want to get the IOL exchanged?

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    The doctor had inserted the progressive IOL in each eye - her opinion was that you need the same type of IOL in each eye, not one conventional and one progressive to be able to see properly. At this point if I close one eye, I see fine with new lens but it seems blurry when I look thru the eye with the progressive.

    I forgot to mention after the first surgery I said I didn't think I was seeing properly, so she did a few tests and she said "it's the wrong strength, you're near sighted not far sighted" - that was never mentioned again by her. I am just hoping after this experience with my eyes, proper care is taken by my doctor for a better out come - so far so good.

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