CFS relapse after traumatic events

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HI All

I'm needing some support or feedback or anyone who can relate to this story. I believe I was slowly but surely recovering from my CFS. However I recently had 2 very trauma inducing episodes (work related) that I believe have set off a relapse. A few weeks after I left my job (being harrased by a bully) I began to wake up exhausted, and still do. I'm utterly devestated and feel depressed and powerless. Of course my head tells me I will never get better. Also both events were very trauma inducing BUT it's since having the CFS that I feel this level of trauma so acutely. I can only think that my nervous system was still dealing with fight/flight scenarios in an overexaggerated way. My CFS has come from years of childhood trauma and I'm in the process of engaging a Ptsd specialist to help me deal with that stuff. Right now I'm needing support and compassion around the despair of taking such a big step backwards.

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    I emphathize with you, Niki.  I remember one time, many years ago, when I thought I was recovering from CFS.  For three months I felt normal after having lived with this illness for several years.  I was absolutely delighted--thrilled!  Then some serious family issues showed up in my life and all those wonderful months disappeared within a few days.  Yes, I cried!  Since then, I have had short periods of feeling "normal."  Now, at age 81, I can say that every now and then I have a day or two or, sometimes, three of feeling normal.  The body can take just so much stress, Niki.  Been there; done that.  If this old lady can offer any advice it would be for you to give yourself kindness.  Rest as much as you can when your body tells you that's what you need.  We tend not to listen to what we know is the right thing for us because we watch other people who seem to accomplish so much more.  The truth is that by living the difficiult lives we lead and by setting examples of patience and kindness to our friends and relatives, we are accomplishing a lot!  Your body may have, as you wrote, "taken a big step backwards"; however, your spirit can move on in spite of the disappointment.  None of this is your fault.  I don't know about you, but I remember feeling guilty because I couldn't keep up with others my age, couldn't accomplish as much, etc.  Now I accomplish what I can and that is good enough.  I rest when I know that's what I need to do and have, for the most part, stopped second-guessing myself: Am I really sick?  Could I do more if I tried hader?  Am I just a big wus?   Don't fall into that trap!  CFS demands bravery and patience and much love.  Don't forget that you will have good days and enjoy them.  For that matter, find something about every day to enjoy.  CFS demands its victims learn to live life more slowly and find joy in each day in spite of illness.  Power to you, Niki!  This exaccerbation will ease and you will find happiness in the life you have.  Hugs to you!

     

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      HI Philis

      Thank you so much. It's not easy. And it's hard not to compare yourself to others. Hard for me anyway. I'm taking Thai Chi, Qi Gong and time out from overthinking the future. We so need support to help us through this.

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    Hi Niki

    Yes, big support from me. I don't think I've ever had anything I would describe as a trauma but I've felt for a long time that my ME is stress related. With me it can be fairly everyday stressful situations such as my daughter being ill for several weeks or problems in the wider family. If they go on long enough then it does seem to be a pattern that I'll have a relapse. The two unusual things over the last year or so are that firstly, the level of stress needed for a relapse seems to have reduced an awful lot (possibly because of age - I'm 50 now), and secondly, that since November, I have been meditating consistently and it may be helping with my body's reaction to anxiety. Since the old stressors are still present and at times pretty intolerable, I would have expected a setback at some point but as long as I manage my energy levels, I can honestly say I haven't really had even any ups and downs in that time. And yesterday, I took the first tentative step back into my old career biggrin

    As Phillis says, try to concentrate on what you can do rather than what you can't and give yourself plenty self-love and congratulations for all the things that you can do. I try at the end of every day to count ten positives about the day. If I can do that, I tell myself I've had a good day. I've never had a bad day yet wink

    Lots of love over the miles

    Pete

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      Thanks Pete. Some old trauma has been brought up and I'm wanting to look at it. It's just the toll that stuff takes. I start to have such negative thoughts and despair about my future. But I'm also practicing gentle stuff to change some old thoughts patterns. Self love seems to be the calling of the day.

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    Hi Niki,

    Sorry to hear you are suffering so much at present. My cfs/me is trauma related with the onset trigger being a car crash I was hurt in. I too have had ptsd symptoms due to this and had a course of emdr that I feel much helped those symptoms. I don't relapse at present because I'm still having symptoms everyday. today I'm not great but, not as bad as a few days ago. What I want to say to you is, I fully understand the place you are now. The disappointment, frustration and almost shame for not being "ok" I've been there and it's awful and it's terribly lonely and it feels too overwhelming. you're not alone in your feelings on here as many people ride the same roller coaster-me Included. What helps me is being gentle with myself. Sounds like you know the trigger and this could make it easier knowing that. I know you're saying it feels like a step backwards but, can you see t as a step sideways? Just momentarily while your body and mind adjust. Bullying is horrible and can really tap into our most negative thoughts about ourselves. When you have this condition, it can be harder to grasp our real self and feel ok. Sometimes it's something we have to remind ourselves. You did nothing to ask for the bullying. Nothing for the childhood traumas and nothing for cfs/me. Be really gentle on yourself and rest well and take things slowly right now. Do things you like, like watching a favourite dvd, having a bath, eating foods you really enjoy. See this side step as temporary and take things easy until you start to feel the cloud lifting.

    Best wishes

    Beverley

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      HI Beverley

      Thank you. It's been a while since I've been my real self and set backs like this make it difficult to believe I'll return. One thing for sure, is that it's teaching me to chill. Take life on life's terms and not get too caught up. It's not worth it in the end.

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      Hi Niki,

      I know it's hard with cfs/me to think we can even be our real self but, perseverance and, as you said above, self love is key here. We can get so wrapped up in other people's agendas that we forget about us. With this condition, it's not hard. I myself, far too often, end up doing things beyond my energy threshold. Partly because it's easier but, also partly because I need social contact. It's hard to set good boundaries when you feel so depleted. Writing that down has made me think a little about my own position so, Thankyou for jogging my memory : )

      I hope you get some closure with the ptsd specialist. I am still triggered by certain noises and If people approach me from behind. I know It doesn't help the symptoms knowing that It's the brains way of protecting us from further danger but, it can help knowing that this part of the brain isn't in the logic area. It's way back in the primitive functional part of our brain. I have felt so stupid jumping out of my skin over things that never bothered me before. The good news is that It can be worked on. I probably need a little more work on my own to desensitize more. A long time ago I was at a seminar where there was a video of an ex soldier with ptsd who was unable to function outside his home due to him reacting to loud noises. He'd drop to the floor with his hands over his head. It was getting him down understandably. After therapy, there was such a transformation. It was like he was a different guy.

      Be good to you Niki and don't give up hope even when it feels like the odds are against you.

      Best wishes

      Beverley

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    Hi Niki,

    I've  had ME/CFS since 1997 and I've noticed a definite correlation between trauma and relaspes. The trauma need not be major, like a car crash - it can be small (reducing certain meds) or even something pleasant (like getting married).  I started keeping a mood journal several years ago which has helped me track moods, situations, medication - I have a better picture what my triggers are.  I wish you the best of luck.

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      Thanks Karin, a lot of my stuff is old trauma and I have to resolve it and change the story, the fear. Otherwise i'll keep heading in that direction that leads me to more trauma.

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    Just a short note to tell you I sincerely hope you feel better today, Nikki.  That's all.

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