CIC suddenly stopped working after initial 10 days of success
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I started CIC on Aug. 8, 2018, and things went well until Sat., Aug. 18, when things "shut down." I couldn't urinate, and nothing came out when I catheterized. I tried two times on Sat., and once Sun. morning before I went to the ER. I keep the catheter very clean, and had no other symptoms.
The ER Dr. put in a balloon catheter, and got over 600cc of urine. I kept that in until Aug. 31, when a urology tech. removed it, and I resumed CIC.
I have had no reoccurrence of the problem, but I am worried about the possibility.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might have caused the problem?
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Sansrx charles11940
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TKM charles11940
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Charles, There was another person on this web site about a month ago who could not urinate through a catheter inserted for a Urodynamics test, after they filled his bladder. He had been self catheterizing for sometime before that, and had no problems. I wonder if it is possible some people have an enlarged obstructive median lobe problem that blocks, pinches, or kinks a catheter, when it enters the bladder, especially when the bladder is very full.
I don't remember the person's name or the discussion he was commenting on. Perhaps someone else reading this can remember who it was and the discussion.
Thomas
charles11940 TKM
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Thanks, Thomas. My urologist/surgeon wants to do a cystoscopy to examine the shape of my prostate. Maybe that will answer the question.
The guys responding to my initial question said that maybe I was using the catheter wrong or it was plugged. Mine wasn't plugged, as I use an earwax syringe to flush it out after use. Another suggested that maybe it wasn't in far enough. It was, all but about two inches, and I rotated it, etc. and had no luck.
The thing that really perplexes me is that for a period of about 18 hours, with five attempts, I still had no luck, either urinating or via the catheter. That's when I went to the ER.
hank1953 charles11940
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The person Thomas mentioned finally went to see a urologist and was told he had a false passage. That might have happened to you also. Hopefully the 10 days of Foley closed it.
The way to avoid false passage is to be gentle and patient while inserting the catheter. Hank
charles11940 hank1953
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Thanks, Hank. I've racked my brain trying to think of something I might have done differently. I was catheterizing about 5X/day, and, being new at the procedure, was very careful about lubing, insertion, sanitation, etc., and have come up with nothing.
You're the first to mention the possibility of a false passage, which I had never heard of; but since it happened on 5 separate occasions over 18 hours during that one day, and also happened (i.e. no urine) when I tried to urinate before using the catheter, I don't think a false passage is likely.
rdemyan hank1953
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hank1953 charles11940
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If you self cath the same way each time, and have a false passage, you are bound to enter the same path, which happens to be the false passage pathway. False passage can be created by any instruments any time getting in the urethra, so it's not that rare. I am not saying you have a false passage. Only a doctor with a scope can be certain. It happened. Hank
hank1953 rdemyan
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Google "urethra false passage". Look at the images. Hank
jimjames rdemyan
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Think of a road detour with a dead end. The road is your urethra and the detour is the false passage with terminates not in your bladder but in a dead end. Coude tip catheters help prevent false passages and they also help to navigate around them. If you think that's what you have, have your urologist take a look as they can be easily repaired/healed.
Jim
bob31550 jimjames
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I was really relying on the 14FR speed cath with coude tip, but due to what the ER doc says as "bad luck", I lost maybe a liter of blood in very scary urine. I am feeling "lost" right now. Then, I had a blockage for several hours when bloody urine restarted. The blockage and bloody urine suddenly cleared up in a taxi, on the way to ER. A miracle for me.
Btw, when I had red-blood urine for 12 hours, I estimate blood loss at 1L, maybe more. My blood pressure dropped to 120/77 range from my normal 155/90 range. Was watching my blood oxygen (from an inexpensive oximeter) go as low as 95%.
Blood pressure is now back to my normal range. Oximeter reads 96-98% as of now.
My reason for being in this forum: I don't want to wear this bag forever. My prostate is 50ml with no nodules (no cancer, the uro says), and PSA was normal per the uro.
I'm consuming herbal remedies now from a TCM,
Can you point me to an "exit door" because I'm in a Catch-22 -- how do I "prove" that herbs work without removing the Foley?
Thanks for your posts.
bob31550 hank1953
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Thanks for this info!!
What is the "scope" procedure/instrument?
hank1953 bob31550
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TKM hank1953
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You asked before if a liquid lubricant is available, instead of the jelly type. I saw a liquid KY lubricant at Walmart. They also had a Walmart (Equate) brand version, less expensive.
Thomas
bob31550 charles11940
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Would an anti-anxiety injection been helpful?