Ciprofloxacin poisoning?

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Hi All - I was prescribed a course of Cipro and Diclofenac (NSAID - apparently not a good idea)

and after day one I had to call my GP as I had anxiety, stomach problems and shaking - of course they said can't be the Cipro keep taking it. After 5 days I couldn't go on, so agreed I would stop - then after a couple of weeks the pain hit - severe muscle cramps, pain in joints, leg pain, headaches, neck pain, and worst of all severe anxiety, some of this has cleared up but 5 months later I'm still suffering.

I noticed there haven't been any posts on here for a while - is there anything happening in the uk to make people, Doctors etc more aware of this poison, are there any known legal actions against the makers by someone in the uk?

It seems Cipro is prescribed as a first line drug for relatively minor problems when something else would be better - to be honest I would rather have put up with the original symtoms than go through this. The worrying thing is how long will it go on for - it is very difficult to function at work when you feel this way

regards

Mike

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    He's also referred me for an ultrasound as it seems it wasnt epidimitis as first expected and seems like a painful cyst. The gp saud this should have been done in November and he wouldn't if pescribed me cipro. This hasn't done anxiety levels much good as now I'm concerned about a lump down there. He just said to rule out anything more serious fingers crossed its nothing. But I'm a little worried. In re to cipro I've only taken one paracetamol since to see if it helped with pain - it didn't. Just caused me more anxiety as wad worried I'd had another reaction.

    I will not take nsaids now going forward as this has been known to cause reactions down the line. Also I will try to avoid drugs now unless I absolutely require them. If I woukd gave trusted my gut initally abd not taken tgem I would have avoided this saga now!!!

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    Hi Chris

    So sorry you have really been through the mill but I would take it as a real positive that you are able to exercise again and have age on your side. You are essentially fit and healthy (apart from what the Cipro has done to you) and my advice to you, would be, to not look for further problems and wonder what might happen but to carry on as you are and believe that you are over he worst. I do think you are right to be careful though, because of the risk of tendon rupture, as this can happen many months later, especially to the large Achilles.

    Often, people do not relate symptoms following the use of Quinolones to the drug, as they can occur so long after discontinuing the medication and they can become many and varied, plus do not show up in blood tests etc.

    April 2013 I took Levofloxacin 500mgs, twice a day. I took 18 tablets over 10 days but the adverse reaction began after 3 tablets. I continued taking them because I didn't realise at first what was happening and then couldn't believe it was possible.

    It started with me feeling more unwell than I had been at the start of taking the meds but I thought they just hadn't 'kicked in' yet. I had weakness and pain in both legs. Then pain worsened in intensity and settled in both Achilles Tendons, all tendons around inner and outer ankles, under my heels and toes, arches of feet, over the top of my feet, shins, top of both calves below my knees. I had never had any problems with my legs or these tendons before and this was the very worst pain I have ever experienced, despite having Rheumatoid Arthritis; pain was no stranger to me. I had to take liquid morphine and am still taking it nearly 9 months later.

    I was unable to walk at all for 4 months; the pain was unrelenting. I was bedridden and only got up to shuffle slowly to the bathroom. I left the house 4 times in 4 months and that was to attend hospital appointments

    I reported the side effect under the Yellow Card Scheme, here in the UK (please do this, if you haven't already) found on the MHRA website (mhra.gov.uk) My GP did the same and told me to, though I had already. I also reported it to the Pharmacy, who reported directly to the drug company. Incidentally, the pharmacist told me that he generally only dispenses Cipro about once or twice a year. My GP had never prescribed it before and says will never do so again. Another GP in the same practice had though and was aware of the possible side effects, particularly the reaction on Tendons and risk of Achilles rupture. I think it might be used more widely in hospitals but generally prescribers are unaware of the dangers.

    There have been some recent guidelines from MHRA for prescribers, about the use of Fluoroquinolone antibiotics, in particular, when to prescribe them and when not to, ie., they must never be used as a first line defence (they were never intended for this purpose) and should only be prescribed when all other antibiotics had been tried and failed. However, this information is only useful if GP's actually read it........

    I had some communication with MHRA about the patient information leaflets, contained with the tablets. I complained strongly that the leaflet I had, was dated 2007 and was written in such a tiny font, that any warning about possible tendon damage, was not clearly visible. In the US, this information is clearly visible as Black Box warnings at the beginning of the patient leaflets. However, these are still ignored by prescribers.

    Patients are often too unwell to read this information and rely on the prescribers to not endanger them further.

    Had I been more aware (warned about the risks), then I would have known, that because I am over 60 years old, have RA and take a daily NSAID for it, plus was taking steroids, then I would have run a mile!

    Now the pain is less but is still there and I can't stay very long on my feet. I have some Peripheral Neuropathy, mainly in my feet and I feel very tired - partly because now I can't sleep properly at night; my brain feels more sluggish too, so I find it hard to concentrate.

    Before this, despite having health problems, I was active and vibrant and I am angry and upset that now I feel like a shadow of my former self. I have to believe that I will continue to improve, as many people do and try to ensure that I am never, ever given another Fluoroquinolone antibiotic.

    Somehow, I would like to help raise awareness in the UK, of this major problem. I was lucky, as my GP and husband believed me.......many others have never heard of it.

    Wishing you all well

    ploddingon

    These drugs are pure poison.

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    I am waiting for a long post I have written, to be approved by the moderators, because it included a link to the Medical and Health Regulatory Association. Hopefully, they will approve it......soon.......

    plodding on

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    Without a doubt its a catch 22 situation. I had Osteomylitis following a Prostate Cancer operation (removal).

    For SIX weeks I had the maximum daily dosage.

    It cleared the problem BUT

    Three months with little or no sleep

    Severe anxiety

    Depression

    Two years later some of those symptoms still exist.

    It does its job but its poison remains with you

    No doubt about this whatsoever!

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    Doctors and Bayer don't give a crap; making money is their goal and Levaquin, also a fluoroquinolone likecipro was the #1 prescribed antibiotic in America last year. I'm guessing Cipro is probably #1 this year. Asmall percentage of doctors are just too busy and aren't aware but most of them know it has risks. There is a new black box warning now for peripheral neuropathy.

    If you really want to learn more and join a group of all floxies, go to Facebook and the group is Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group. I'm a member of that group and it has been very enlightening. The hard cold truth is that very few people that take cipro or levaquin escape it's jaws and to date, there has been no solid research. You'll learn more from the FQ site on FB than from any doc in the whole world. One pharmacist on this discussion said that muscle pain is rare; he does not know what he's talking about. There's many people that are totally crippled from taking 1 or 2 pills and a lot of people are in so much pain they can't tolerate it. A lot of people are totally disabled and have no income to get the necessary tests, etc, to make it manageable. It's a brutal drug and should not even be on the market.

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      Hi Trudy,

      I was trying to locate the FB group page and was unable to do so. I am a 54 year old woman, I would say relatively active and live in Washington State 5 months of the year and in Southern Mexico where my husband and I own and operate a fly fishing lodge. I am just so happy to find a site where there are recent posts on this toxic drug.

      I got sick with a severe kidney infection while fishing in Alaska the end of June, was hospitalized for 5 days, 2 or 3 of those days had IV Levaquin, sent home with another 10 days in tablet form.  I don't need to repeat what everyone else has been saying.  I suppose I just want to be a part of a group that understands what is happening to me.

      I have gone from not understanding anything about my symptoms from this drug, due to trusting my healthcare providers, to researching things on my own, being scared, being angy and now wanting to be proactive.  I don't think we can't fight the drug companies.

      I couldn't agree more that this drug should not be given.  I can't foresee the future, but can tell you that I am in an unbelievable amount of pain.  I am a fairly new Grandma with 2 twin boys who are 19 months old and a 9 week old granddaughter.  This is the part that kills me...I have a great day with them on any given day, and the following day or two I can barely get out of the house due to pain and exhaustion, I sleep until 1:00 pm which is in heard of.  

      I am so sorry to read stories of those who have lost loved ones and my heart goes out to them.

      I think that I just want to be understood, because the alternative is that I am a hypocondriac or just crazy.

      Im not sure why your post impressed me to sign up to this site and write, but whatever it was...thank you.  

       

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      Hi Kaye

      Sorry you find yourself in need of a group like this but good that you have found us.

      Thank you for sharing what has happened to you and know that you are not a hypochondriac or crazy......and you are not on your own with these feelings.

      I have recommended that fb group in the past and one called 24/7 but I would no longer recommend those particular groups, as there has been some unpleasant behaviour in them, which sadly one can come across occasionally in such groups. There is one (again found via fb) called Fluoroquinolone Poisoning, which I can recommend though and also if you look into the floxiehope website, which is excellent and if you scroll to the last page of this discussion, you will find a post from FloxieHope.

      I am sorry you are having such a rough time and hope that things do improve for you.

      I also agree with you about not fighting Big Pharma and actually I need them for other medical problems I have. We need to spread FQ toxicity awareness wherever we can and even if we can save one person from taking them, when they don't need them, then we are doing a good job, in my opinion. Then it's a case of trying to heal ourselves.....and support eachother where we can.

      Warm wishes to you Kaye and take care of yourself

      Plodding on

       

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    Can anyone offer any advice I live in the uk. Have a vy rare neurological condition. Given the ciprofloxacin for a water infection, I took two days worth 500mg twice daily. After three days I started to have a fast heart rate, anxiety like no other before, jerky movements but now three days after stopping my legs and feet are swollen and vy vy painful. I've read on here the ciprofloxacin can cause muscle problems. I already am wheelchair bound but this pain is not my usual daily muscle pain this is different and only since taking that flipping medication and having that reaction for which I had to contact the doc immediately as felt so concerned about my heart rate.

    The anxiety is less but not great I fear going out. I have an appointment this Thursday with the GP who proscribe it. I am not one for confrontation but it clearly says in the leaflet not to give to ppl with neurological conditions.. I feel today like I can't cope, in pain with my legs and just don't know what to do.

    I'm going to definitely report this to the Myra yellow card. But would like to know more about this muscle pain I am now suffering from.

    Thanks

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    Your symptoms are typical of being poisoned (floxed) by cipro, a fluoroquinolone. Here's a fact sheet you can take your doc. If he poopoo's your concern, i would delete him. Most docs deny the hell out of this drug causing any ADR, adverse drug reaction. Sorry, this reformats when i 'copy and paste' it. More info is on Facebook - Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group. We know more than any doctor, i assure you.

    Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox Antibiotics:

    Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox are Fluoroquinolone antibiotics; they are broad-spectrum antibiotics used to treat a variety of infections, from urinary tract infections to anthrax and everything in between.

    Dr. Jay S. Cohen published an article on the severe and often disabling reactions some people sustained  as a result of taking a fluoroquinolone antibiotic. His case study of 45 people poisoned by fluoros showed:

    Peripheral Nervous System: Tingling, numbness, prickling, burning pain, pins/needles sensation, electrical or shooting pain, skin crawling, sensation, hyperesthesia, hypoesthesia, allodynia (sensitivity to touch) numbness, weakness, twitching, tremors, spasms.

    Central Nervous System: Dizziness, malaise, weakness, impaired coordination, nightmares, insomnia, headaches, agitation, anxiety, panic attacks, disorientation, impaired concentration or memory, confusion, depersonalization, hallucinations, psychoses.

    Musculoskeletal: Muscle pain, weakness, soreness, joint swelling, pain, tendon pain, ruptures.

    Special Senses: Diminished or altered visual, olfactory, auditory functioning, tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

    Cardiovascular: Tachycardia, shortness of breath, hypertension, palpitations, chest pain.

    Skin: Rash, swelling, hair loss, sweating, intolerance to heat and\or cold.

    Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain.

    When a fluoroquinolone antibiotic triggers a toxic reaction in a person, multiple symptoms are often experienced. I experienced all of the symptoms that are italicized.

    Fluoroquinolone Antibiotic Damage – Technical Aspects

    Fluoroquinolones drugs work the same way as chemotherapeutic drugs; they disrupt DNA and lead to destruction of cells.  A recent (2013) study conducted by scientists at the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering at Harvard University Studies showed that Ciprofloxacin, along with a couple of other non-fluoroquinolone antibiotics, causes oxidative stress and mitochondrial malfunction. A 2011 study published in the Journal of Young Pharmacists found that, “There is significant and gradual elevation of lipid peroxide levels in patients on ciprofloxacin and levofloxacin.”  Also found is that “There was substantial depletion in both SOD (superoxide dismutase, “a free radical scavenging enzyme”) and glutathione levels” and that “On the 5th day of treatment, plasma antioxidant status decreased by 77.6%, 50.5% (and) 7.56% for ciprofloxacin, levofloxacin and gatifloxacin respectively.” The study also notes that administration of fluoroquinolones leads to a marked increase in the formation of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) and that “reactive free radicals overwhelms the antioxidant defence, lipid peroxidation of the cell membrane occurs. This causes disturbances in cell integrity leading to cell damage/death.”

    Some Antibiotics are More Dangerous than Others

    The bottom line is that these popularly prescribed antibiotics are dangerous drugs that have caused thousands of people to suffer with a myriad of maladies. Undeniably, they have their place, in treating life-threatening infections.  Unfortunately, they are not being reserved for use in life-threatening situations and people are being hurt after taking them for simple sinus, urinary tract, bronchial and prostate infections. A strict and rigorous protocol needs to be established to limit the damage that they cause; because it’s not right to maim and disable people to treat their sinus infections.

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    Thank you for the information very scary what medication can do if not given out correctly like in my case. I in the high risk category and yet I still was prescribed it. Will the symptoms subside? Can cope with the physical pain in my legs but the anxiety is utterly debilitating along the fast heart rate.

    X

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    Cipro (made by Bayer) and Levaquin (johnson & johnson) are given out like candy. Most docs deny that symptoms are caused by these. They're in collusion with drug cos and Big Pharma.

    Join FAcebooks - Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group and you can ask what members have done for your symptoms. You will love this group. They're all caring and have been thru hell with this toxic drug.

    I hope you find something to relieve your suffering.

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      I'm a hospital pharmacist in the US and I had NO idea of the severity of the potential side effects of this class of antibiotic.  I knew about the achilles and rotator cuff issues as is documented in the literature, but as we all know there is much more that this class can do to your body....

      I took Cipro in Dec 2011 for a prostate infection.  Immediately I got tendonitis in my inner forearms which I blamed on over use.  About 2 weeks into the course of 500mg twice daily I developed pain in my right shoulder.  I knew to stop the med immediately.  About a year later I tried P90x workout program and my body fell apart.  My shoulders were the worst.  Cracking and popping.  They felt like they were almost coming out of joint.  I had to stop exercising because of the pain.  Shortly after that my knees started popping and cracking.  Soon almost 2 years after I took Cipro my joints nearly body wide were in pain and popping.  Shoulders, knees, hips, ankles, wrists, thumbs....  The bottoms of my feet were in severe pain.  I developed severe dry eyes, floaters and lines in my vision along with photosensivity.  My ears started ringing. 

      Today, a little over 2 years later I still experience knee pain (can't run and stairs kill me)  Right shoulder pain (torn labrum) left hip pain, my ears are still ringing, my eyes are still dry with visual issues.  I used to be very active and healthy.  Now I am weak and frail.  I'm only 40 and I feel 90. 

      I had a delayed reaction which I'm sure not many people out there whether victim or especially physician can connect the dots between this class of medication and reaction.  There is anectdotal evidence of this in the Flox Report. 

      I get nothing out of posting this.  I just want the information to be out there so other people can put 2 and 2 together.  Maybe someday there will be enough outcry to make a difference because once you have this devastating nightmarish reaction.... time and prayer seem to be the only hope you have....

      Good luck to all of you

      Mike B.

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      Hi my name is Judy and I have just joined the site and am so glad I did. I am not glad that so many people are suffering from the effects of ciprofloxacin and other medications of this type. I as other people are saying am just at my wits end after having been prescribed these types of antibiotics having never had a urine infection. I am a trained nurse and think or thought I was an intelligent and sane human being but now all medical doctors can say to me is that my main problem is anxiety. Luckily I have some diazepam that has at least helped calm my anxiety but when the panic sets in and the symptoms get worse I cannot stand it. I so sympathise with everyone who has written comments about these drugs and want to know what more can be done to get them banned or there must be a part of the NHS where side effects are reported and intend to write to the drug companies if I can. The main problem is as lots of people are saying is energy to do so. Since taking these drugs I have thought i am dying and this has been so hard as already i had other health problems which has made things so much worse. I am in my early sixties and my symptoms are many that have been stated but also have developed a real sensitvity to the sun even though have used factor 50 when going out and a hat. I have terrible burning of my ears which feel so sore and this also affects my nose. I have strange burning feelings in my feet and have such a pain in my joints and my muscles have disappeared. I had convinced myself i have cancer or an abscess and am having to pay for a scan of my bladder this week to rule out cancer but i do not think i do have it but who knows. I get these terrible palpitations and the weight loss if frightening even though i am eating well. Is it not possible for us in the UK to go on a TV programme to raise awareness of these issues? I live in the south of the country and would gladly talk to anyone who is nearby and is going through the same thing. I was already allergic to penicillin and septrin and after the second course of cipro which luckily i stopped after trying ofloxacin and realising they did not agree with me they gave me trimethaprim and had an allergic reaction and ended up in an amubulance on Easter Friday going into anaphaladtic shock. Iwas not even seen for over two hours and then given piriton and told to go home as if it was nothing.  I was initially given nitrofuratonin for three days but the symptoms of the uti came back. I am getting an allergy bracelet to wear and just writing this has helped in some way but has also exhausted me.
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      I am sorry you are having such a tough time after being poisoned by an FQ.

      Just wanted to say, you are not alone - there are many of us...... I am still suffering too (my story is here somewhere). I am also in my early sixties.....

      We are not a very coordinated bunch here in the UK and so for more information about Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Syndrome, I would encourage you to join one of the Facebook groups, eg., Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Group, or Fluoroquinolone Toxicity 24/7 Live Chat Group. You will find much support there and lots of very useful info.

      you can report your side effects on the Yellow Card Scheme at MHRA here in the UK. It is the Medical and Healthcare Regulatory Agency and is responsible for drug safety in the UK. You should also report your Adverse Reactions to the Pharmacy who dispensed it and also your GP should report too.....difficult if they don't believe you though! I was lucky, as mine did and has been very supportive.

      I wish you well in your recovery.

      Plodding on 

       

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      Hi

      Iam trying to send you a private message but it keeps coming up as error and will not let my reply to your answer. Is there anything else i need to do to be able to send private messages?

      thanks Judy

    • Posted

      I have no idea what you need to do to reply. My reply to your message, was the first one I've ever sent on this forum - I just clicked bottom right, at the end of your message, where it says (in grey and almost invisible) 'Reply to...'.

      i do think this a poorly designed forum - not user friendly or easy to navigate. I think they have just recently 'upgraded' it too!

      keep trying.....

    • Posted

      Hi Avitara - or Judy!

      It's been a long time since this discussion on Patient but, if you're still keen, I have now started a FB group just for UK sufferers.  I probably joined this discussion a while after you posted here (I haven't got to page 3 yet!).  This site is so fragmented Ploddinon and I got together to start our own.  Even if you don't use Facebook, please respond to me here and so I can let you know what the group are up to.  We're trying to get in the media and to write to all the doctors!

      Regards,

      Miriam

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