Cloudy sinus xray?

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hi I have had a crooked nose since birth, my nose has never given me much trouble but for eight months I have had chest pain caughing yellow, green and a few times blood.  Anyway the chest X-ray three times has come back clear but since December I have had the same stuff come out my nose.  I have been prescribed 9 rounds of antibiotics in 9 months.  I finally got a new dr and he said he did not see any infection on the xray just cloudy.  I asked him what that meant and he said dr like to see blue sky's.  So he is refuring me to an ent.  What does cloudy mean and can post sinus drip be causing my chest pain?

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    Hi Pam I hope your feeling better soon, I went to my gp with a thumping in my left ear after being perscripted tablets and nasal sprays to clear it up I was then referred to ent as they didn't seem to make a difference,the ent doc said he saw a dullness in my ear which I then had to have an MRI, 2 weeks later I got my results and thankfully my ear was completely clear although something showed up behind my nasal space so had to wait another 2 weeks to get an endoscopy under anisetic but thankfully it came back clear too so please don't panic as I did for nearly 8 weeks docs must check everything thoroughly and although the thumping in my ear is eased a lot it's still there at times but iv learned to slow down as I tend to rush about and take a lot outa of myself I do suffer from seasonal allergies too which I think is the main problem,

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      I to have pulsatile tinnitus, omg that can be annoing the only blessing with that is no pain.  So what is a endoscopy did they put you to sleep?  And did it hurt.?  I have already had a xray and full head ct.  Hopefully I won't need anything major done.  Right now I am on 10 days of levafloxin I really did not want to take it but the dr insisted.

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      An endoscopy is were the surgeon puts a tube with a camera on the end of it up your nostrils to check for any abnormalities yes I was put to sleep it wasn't too sore just one side felt a little uncomfortable I have a deviated septum too

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      I was really hopping not to be put to sleep.  Did the dr offer any other suggestions.  I really don't want surgery.  Also are they going to fix your deviated septum?  

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      I don't think they are Pam after I had the endoscopy done a surgeon came round to say that there was nothing abnormal in my nasal space and I could go home later that evening I got a letter to give to my gp and that was all I never got a follow up appointment that was 3 weeks past and I havnt heard anymore.

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      That kinda sucks so they did nothing to fix your problem.  The only good side to that is you did not need the surgury.. I just watched one being done on you tube and well it looks painful. 
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    Hi Pam, I've just replied to your post about taking Levofloxacin and then I saw this post.  If your doctor says he didn't see any infection why on earth has he given you such a strong antibiotic?  I would have to say if there is no infection than there is absolutely no reason to take the antibiotic - especially one with such risks attached to it!

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      At the time when he called me in I still had not taken them,  I was tested for tb and that came back normal.  I don't get why dr don't take samples, I even brought one in on my own and the dr just said throw it away.  I live Canada I think the uk actually would have tested my sample.  I have even have maggots in my nose sorry to gross you out but I froze them and brought them in and the dr did not seem to care I cared we don't have flies yet.   Well anyway I also had cloudy urin, pus and blood lots in the morning and was caughing up green, yellow and blood that was very painful for months.  

      I I said to him so I don't need the drugs then right hopefully the ent he was sending me to could clear this up without medication.  He said no keep taking it, keep doing sinus irrigation and take the steroids.  So anyway in pain I reluctantly took them.  Today is day three still have yellow pus and blood but it is dryer my chest does not hurt so bad this morning,  maybe I am getting better.

      i have to be careful what gets into my lungs because I have copd, I will keep you informed of my outcome.  Thank you for your concern believe me when I say I was really scared to take them, I even said that to the dr.

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      Hi Pam, if the doctor would read about Levofloxacin he would see that he should never prescribe steroids or NSAIDS with it or any other flluoroquinolone!  Don't take the steroids with Levofloxacin as they can (and will) exacerbate the adverse reactions.  The Canadian Health Authority recently announced they were increasing the warnings about FQs in the same way that the FDA did last year.

      There must be a different antibiotic you can take, with all your present problems you don't want to be floxed as well.  Have you seen Floxie Hope?  Lots of advice and info on there.

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      I thought that just meant oral steroids.  I take inhaled for my lungs and Flonase for my nose.. I looked it up on web md and it showed no interations.  But like you I asked the dr and he said it would be fine.  But to be on the safe side I will skip the steroids till the levafloxin is finished and just do the nasal rinse.
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      Hi Pam, yes, I did mean oral steroids and I have no idea if inhaled steroids make a difference or not.  If you're going to continue taking the Levo just be sure to watch out for any sign of pain anywhere really.  Also bear in mind that somepeople finish thier course thinking that was ok then get a tendon tear or rupture some weeks or even maybe months after.  One guy I know had no symptoms until he took Ibuprofen (a NSAID) about a year later then all his symptoms kicked in.  I repeat, I'm not trying to scare you but I am telling it like it (unfortunately) is.

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      Hi thanks again for your concern this day four of the levofoxem and I still have a lot of yellow discharge and some blood when I blow, about 1/2 tsp.  Chest left lung still a bit sore.  Urin still cloudy.  I was hopping I would be feeling much better after the third day.  Is this drug not supposed to cure anthrax?  
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      It is,  it kills anthrax and most other bacteria although it's not very good against e.coli and a few others. It also kills (or rather damages and prevents replication of) our own mitochondrial DNA.  These are the organisms in every one of our cells that produce energy - it's how we do what we do! If enough of them are damaged and they can't replicate then we simply can't function how we used to.  There's loads of info about it. This is why the doc should do a culture - to make sure you're given the most effective antibiotic(ABx).  Better to get it right first time!

      You said you've had 9 lots of ABx in 9 months - are you sure you weren't given Ciprofloxacin during that time?  I ask because that behaves in the same way and the effects are cumulative.  If you keep taking the Levo, be sure to stop if you get any pain at all, and you would be best not to take either Levo or Cipro (or other FQ) again in the future.

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      No I have z packs also known a zithromiacin, amoxacilion clavin that put me in the hospital, reg pennacilin no ciprofloxacin or this family of drugs.   I read up on all of them this is the first.  Before 9 months ago I never even had a cold for ten years and it was a mild head cold that lasted less than a week.  
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      Day 5 lots of discharge this morning, more orange than just yellow.  I guess that's what you get when you mix red blood will yellow.  Did te Basel rinse to get as much as I coul out.  Woke with a bit of chest pain but not caughing up anything for three days. 

      i also had to leap out of bed half way threw the night with a Charley horse, resolved quickly.  I also slept in an exra 1/2 hour I usually take the levaloxaxin at 7 but did not fet to take it till 7:30.. So what do I do tomorrow take it at the old time or new time?  

      I I am still so stuffed up I just can't stand it.  I really hope the risks of this drug produce a good outcome, or it was all just a waste.

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      Day six not as much discharge some clear now a golden yellow color as to its usual baby duck yellow color.  Still blood and some not as much.  I had  really bad chest pain last night,  coughed up dome green flem and felt  tons better.  Just slight chest pain this morning a bit of burning.  I am making a batch of ionic silver I have never used on my nose wondering if that would help or would conflict with the  Levafloxin, I could put in my sinus rinse,  if I did would I still add the saline?
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      Good morning day seven,  woke some sinus discharge about  1/8 th of a teaspoon a small blood clot,  but mostly clear.  Very faint chest pain.  I am getting ready to do my caughing and breathing exercises after my coffee.

      i miss calcium, my hemp milk and sesame seeds, magnesium, the sun or vitamin d3, my inhalers,  not being able to run or jog everyday.  I do take the dog for alight walk 5 time a day now she lovin that., but just around the block.

      well I have an apt in June to see the ent, they Also have me on a cancellation list,  I hope to get in earlier.  Long story short still got sinus infection it seems and a tad congested in the lungs.  Not sure if this was worth all the trouble.  Only three days to go and I read levafloxin stays in your system for 30 to 40 hours after you stop taking it.

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      Well I am a bit down today, coughed up some yellow stuff yesterday.  This is day eight,  still have discharge about the same as Day 7,  maybe be more blood than usual.   I woke with chest pain,  burning, the gunk in mt sinus must of gotten into my lungs while slept,  

      I am going to do an extra nasal rinse 3 a day and hope that helps.  My room and home has been spotless for months, I even disinfected my room with tea tree oil.  Sanitized, bedding, pillows,drapes lol the Yorky. 

      I am am so discouraged,  I am going to ask the dr next week for spain patch for my left lung till this all heals up.  Hopefully he will give me something.. I can't take pain killers or anything with  tylonal way to contipating. I am 50 and have never had to ask for pain meds.  

      Well ill I am going to do a 5k walk, makemyself a heathy dinner and try to keep my mind of of it.  Anyone taking levafloxin you can't use your steroids or rescue inhalers,  so drink plenty of coffee and dark chocolate the darker the better to keep you lungs dialated.   I add a bit of  vegetable powder to my coffee you don't notice the taste and it's a bit healthier for you.

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      Hi Pam, I'm sorry to hear this isn't clearing up as well as you'd hoped.

      At the risk of being the voice of doom again I just need to point out that, while Levofloxacin does indeed leave your body after several hours, the damage it has done stays with you. Some people don't notice this damage while some find symptoms can kick off later - up to months later.  The FDA did acknowledge the real possibility of delayed adverse reactions in their announcement last July.   This is why  said you should never take any more of this stuff or the other quins as the effects can be cumulative - even if you're OK now, just one more tablet can tip you over the edge (it has happened, read the stories on floxy hope).  Also be wary of taking oral steroids or NSAIDS for at least a year as they can kick it off as well.

       

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      Hi thanks again for the update,  I actually did not take them for a week, and read as much and watched as much as a could in that time, hours and hours daily.  So I know exactly what your saying and had to way the risks that are pretty high.  

      Well I had a really bad day yesterday walked five miles and endured horrible lung pain not caused npby the walk, left lung always.  At the store I really wanted to leave because I had to bend over and press down on my chest and strain, and strain to caugh.  I finally managed to get out some greenish yelow lol just the size of a head of a nail.  It left me with burning pain for the rest of the day.

      todat is day nine of the medication,  I had discharge from my sinus but it's runny light clear yellow today a first.  No blood,  I really think I could be getting better,  but I only have one levafloxin left for tomorrow and don't want to see the dr till my apt next tues,  I am worried he will give me more.

      i also have had pulsatile tinnitus for nine months that has settled right down,  I still can feel my heartbeat in my head if I pay attention to it but I notice more a soothing low buzzing sound.

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      Hi Pam,  hopefully it is clearing up now.  I truly understand the dilemma you are in, especially when you say you're worried he'll give you more Levo.  It's your body, you can refuse the drug if he offers it to you.  You can say you agree with the FDA, that the risks outweigh the benefit.

      I can't remember but I think you said odiginally that the x-ray showed no actual infection?  Has he taken a sample of the mucous and done a culture to find out if there is a bug and exactly what the bug is?  Or is he giving you Levo just to get you out of his office?  To give you such a strong antibiotic when he doesn't even know what's causing the trouble is just plain wrong and, in my opinion, shows he's a lazy doctor who doesn't care much about his patient!

      Sometimes it's not always an infection anyway.  You may have an allergy that's causing all this (dairy is an obvious one).

      I won't comment any more as you've read all the stuff and probably know as much as me.  You may be ok at the moment or you may already be storing up tendon damage in the future - you'll never know, and more importantly nor will your doctor, until it happens.  Once you're floxed it can take years to get over it - but you know this now.

      It's your body, remember that.

      Good luck and I hope you recover soon. 

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      Good morning, I doubt they will take this drug of the market when billions of scripts are written for it every day,  but you never now.  I am just hopping to get pot legal in Canada,  it would close down drug houses and help those that have medical issues such as cancer etc.. 

      Well this morning it was the clear yellow gunk with some blood,  I don't have allergies,  I actually got this infection in early July of last year.  I've tried sinus sprays,  seen 4 dr. And been to the hospital once because I had a reaction to amoxiclavon.

      oh I am with you on this I did not even want antibiotics period from any of them and the all new my drug history because I would tell them and bring in my old blood work and my prescription list from the pharmacy.  Not one would do a culture.  It just blows my mind, how lazy, unprofessional, uncaring dr have become.

      anyways I took my last levafloxin today it will stop doing any magic and hopefully Dna  damage by ten tomorrow afternoon.  I am on a ketone, leptin diet, that I have been on most of my life.   So that pretty much eliminates any foods that could be causing this.  To be sure I I'm not getting any leptins I am getting a pressure cooker tomorrow foe Easter.  That should destroy them.

      i also had to order prebiotics,  they are coming from the uk next week,  I have plenty of probiotics sauerkraut, may get some olives for my gut flora if I have a spec of them left to feed.

      i just have a tiny bit of chest pain,  I am considering asking the dr for a morphine patch,  my system just can't handle any drugs.  I am really hopping the ent will be able to fix this,  I can't do anymore than I have already done, my house is spotless,  I have a hepa in each room today I will clean again always with a mask on because of my copd.

      since today is my last day on the drug no use informing you how I am reacting,  so I hope you all have a happy Easter tomorrow,  maybe I will post something regarding my next dr visit, or the visit to the specialist.  Take care.

       

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      Yes, do post how the doctor visit goes.  Also if you start getting any 'odd' symptoms not to do with your present condition. 

      By saying I wouldn't comment again I didn't mean I didn't care, it was just that I know you know how to take care of yourself.  I just hope I helped a little, despite being the voice of doom and gloom!

      I think your main problem is that the docs are unwilling to spend a lot of time finding out what is actually going on with you so they're just throwing stuff at you to see if it works.  They need to do proper tests and find out exactly what it is.

      Good luck!

       

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      Well I had to post and say thanks and happy Easter 🇨🇦 The levothoxin sould be out of my system my mid day,  I had a ton of stuff come out my nose this morning,  and some in the back of my thought,  that I got out while brushing my teeth.  

      Well one good thing is I don't have chest pain today and slept pretty good Its going to be nice to have my hemp milk again (contains calcium, no calcium with levofloxin ) magnesium, and be able to get some sun, when the sun comes out.

      Well I have 10 people coming for dinner today so I hope the chest pain stays away,  I  am just ordering Chinese food and making rum balls for desert so easy to make and it only costs a dollar for the chocolate cake mix.  Well more if you don't have dark rum and powdered sugar.

      I am making a list of things that concern me to read to the dr, like how do we find out if I have a drug resistant bug, and to check my inflamation markers to make sure I don't have autoimmune disease.  I have been checked for Hiv, also tb as I mentioned earlier, and hep b,c and mono, all ok.  

      I will ill no longer accept, half assed diagnoses or have to live with chronic pain.  I flatly refuse to take a microgram of any antibiotic till they eather do a spinal tap or bone marrow test.

      well again I hope everyone enjoys their holiday, I am sure the Easter bunny was good to all the children.

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      Well I hope everybody had a lovely easter I know I did.  I was really bad Easter Sunday I ate some of the Chinese food,  mostly the beef with brockley and black bean sauce, also ate a entiire container of bbq long ribs.  All of it was really sweet we used a different restaurant that I am used to.  It was all good but lots of sugar, starch for sure.

      i really wanted to sleep in this morning, I just felt like I had no energy.  Lots,and lots of crud still in my nose plus blood about a tbsp,  again bits of it in my throat.    I  brush and floss and water pick three times a day, oil pull after meals and just had my teach cleaned, and  the dr made me a two week bleaching tray that I used to I can't see my oral hygiene to be the issue.

      anyway I feel like crap today,  I am for sure going back to my regular diet no sugar ect..  Well on the bright side I  love my new pressure cooker,  cooked a chicken, and some leaf veg in it so fast and it will help to disrtroy leptins all good.  For a non drinking family they all ate all 30 of the rum balls that contained about to cups of rum lol.  I am glad I did not touch them I would probably be worse off.

      well any way slight burning pain left lung,  I am going back to exercising sixty minutes of cardio and anaerobics, eating right, taking my  bronchial dialaters.  Do some light house work drink plenty of floride free water,  take my suppliments,  get plenty of fresh air and hope my body will cure itself with time.  

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      Ugh, I just got back from the dr, and it went pretty much how I thought it would go.  I felt rushed so I stayed on point and just gave him the facts and concerns.

      i told him the ent can't see me for months,  I still have lung pain, a lot of discharge and blood in my sinus morning and evening.  I said I did not want any more antibiotics, or pain pills,  if he could give me a Demerol patch or something like that till I saw the specialists, that be great.  He said he could not just give out opioids.  I really did not think of them as opioids since I was not ingesting them.

      i even at one point of the conversation had to remind him he was my family dr , because he asked why I had not asked my gp, egads he and I met 3 times in two months.   He said my lung xray was called perfect and said if I took my copd meds every day I would not have a problem.  I reminded him I have had pain for nine months and take my meds.  

      So so he checked my blood work and said he wanted to check my vitamin d level, my ra factor and my Ana what ever that is. Then he reminded me my thyroid was off and said they did not do a free t4.  Yikes the seven hours of med school they crammed in endocrinology he still thinks he sould be looking ar my t4 on not free t3.

      he did end up giving me a prescription for 20 pills of 100 mg of taro tramadol whatever the hell that is.  Also reminded him tylonal, pain pills make me constipated.  The bottle of pills says do not chew, may cause drowsiness, no alcohol, and may cause constipation.

      i think eating right, exercize, fresh air, sunshine being happy with yourself and surround yourself with people that care about you, having hobbies and doing a nice thing for yourself everyday no matter how little it is,  is way better than hopping all dr will have empathy, be organized, patient, knowledgable ect.. The good ones are a thing of the past.

       

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      Well it looks like the pills the dr gave me are opioids.  Ugh I gave in and tried one made me a bit buzzed for a few hours did nothing for lung pain, actually it did nothing for my period cramps eather.  I am taking the bottle back to the pharmacy, all I wanted was a pain patch or cream and I get these stupid pills.

      on the bright side I have no chest pain this morning an just a spec of blood in my sinus, no discharge so far today, knock on wood.

      well am am going to go out and get myself a treat before it rains.  Have an awesome day.

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