Coming off Tramadol
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Hello all,
I am after some friendly advice. 12 Jan I had a riding accident, hurt my shoulder. It was previously injured (dislocation/fracture of humerus) and it's been weak ever since. Doc put me on cocodamol as of 14th, and then on the 17th I was back at docs because they were making me sick. He put me on tramadol. 2x 50mg tablets three times a day.
I wasn't warned about any possible side effects, other than they may cause drowsiness.
11 weeks later, I can't kick it. I no longer require the tramadol for pain. They tried a weaning programme. I was given Tramadol SR tablets. I cut from 300mg a day to 200mg. One tablet morning, one tablet evening for a week. The week after I was cut down to 100mg tablet in the morning, then nothing.
I lasted a day before I used some left over regular tramadol.
The effects were horrific when I initially changed the dosage, but I thought it would be okay with cutting down and then coming off completely. I was ready for some side effects, but not what happened in reality.
Headaches, nosebleeds, sickness, sweats, freezing cold, aggressiveness, exhaustion, tearful, restless, insomnia.
I had some very very dark thoughts that I haven't had in years. I took the tramadol and felt ten times better.
I have a doctor's appointment today, but they tend to be as much use as a chocolate teapot. Any recommendations or information you think will be helpful to take with me is greatfully appreciated.
A nurse over the phone expressed she thought that the time frame for coming off them was too short, and the leap from 100mg to none was too much.
Please help.
I know I have a problem, but I'm scared to come off them and become the horrid, nasty person I was at the weekend. My rational thoughts tell me once I stop for good I'll be back to normal, but I don't have those rational thoughts when I try and come off them. I need them to cope with the most simple of tasks.
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Wobbly68
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I'm not much help but I'm here to share if you need to.
Hope you got better than you thought at the doctors.
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richard_48952 Wobbly68
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I have been on Tramodol for five years and have managed to slowly reduce the amount by taking a tablet,Tramadol hydrochloride/Paracetamol,which is 37.5 mg and 325 mg respectively,this is slightly helping me to reduce the amount of Tramadol I take,but if I go too far as you all say the symptoms are horrendous.Why couldn't the experts warn us? I hope this may help a little
fizzysoap
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Thank you for your input! At times I feel I am going crazy, but it's comforting to know other people have had the same experiences.
I am at the docs in 1 1/2 hours. I will let you know what they decide.
When people say "Just stop" I wish I could. I'm not taking the pills because I think it's funny. It's frustrating me trying to explain the intense feelings I have to them without sounding like an ammy dramatic.
I was on 50mg tablets, taking two three times a day. I may speak and see if I start the programme again that I finish off on these.
The thought of going to the docs to try and get this sorted makes me feel sick with worry and anxiety.
I hope that your journey is successful, Jakki. Please keep me updated. From everything I have read it seems that every individual person has different ways and different methods, just like it effects everyone differently
abigail11670 fizzysoap
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hi im here reading this as ive been taking 2 50mg tablets 3 times a day, shamfully buying online as ive had so much difficultly with my doctors and i was in a desparate state of withdrawal
im now tapering and today ive had 3 50mg tabs instead of 6 its horrendous but im sticking with it
i hope you manage to become free of these bloody things, stay strong im backing you all the way
thank you for this thread its a real help x
fizzysoap
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I am currently on 4 tablets a day. 100 mg morning, 100mg lunch. I don't take them in the evening as it makes it harder to sleep.
So now I take one 50mg tablet three times a day for a week, then two 50mg tablets a day for a week, then one 50mg tablet for a week. I have also been prescribed diazepam 5mg for anxiety and the restlessness/insomnia. Having had this before I know it wipes me clean out, and sleeping tablets are short acting. So when I feel like I'm going crazy and having a melt down, I take the diazepam along side it.
He is also trying to find liquid tramadol so that when I finish the 50mg dose a day, I can do a lesser dose.
I'm lucky enough I live at home or with my boyfriend. My father has said he will take the tablets and give me the dose I require as prescribed. I warned him I may turn in to a spitting snake when I cut down trying to get more as it is out of my control, but he is okay with that.
We have glourious weather at the moment, so staying warm isn't a big issue. I was having serious problems with being very, very cold. Blue lipped cold.
I will let you know how it all goes.
thefamilyroom fizzysoap
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jo61533 fizzysoap
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alan82657 fizzysoap
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happyjoy alan82657
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georgia91198 happyjoy
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Any advice? Georgia
duracell_dave alan82657
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matthew55112 thefamilyroom
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Ive gone from (10) 50 mg tablets down to one! Its taking about 2 months now. Im a big baby so Im going very slow. Valerian root tablets help you sleep and when I do wake up in the middle of the night w side affects I go eat dark chocolate or ice cream. These types of treats produce similar chemicals in the brain that tramodol does. Know that you will have some discomfort but you can do it.
Wobbly68
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jo61533 mrdougjoy
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lrac99811 jo61533
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I just wanted to let you know I understand what youre going through.
mrdougjoy jo61533
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terminal,don't beat yourself up too much...don't talk bad to yourself. Take an hour and talk to yourself and sincerely forgive yourself. I know your are still in the noncommitted stage of this, so am I, but you do have a plan. Just forgive yourself and it will be easier to solve the bigger problem. Don't worry too much about your son saying you are spaced out. It doesn't change the fact that he still loves you just as much as he always has. Soon you will be back to normal and you can easily make up the lost time....I sound so full of sh*t giving advice, but is true but I'm in the same shape you are. Sometimes it hard to take your own advice.
I can't help but wonder about how you know so much about all the drugs which will help you kick Tramadol. You're very knowledgeable, are you a pharmacist?... Hey have you ever thought about why most people with a tramadol addiction are usually older people...I mean this is not a 17, 18,19 year old thing.
You're right when you say we are in the same foxhole, regardless of the amount of Tram we use. A problem for me is that because I live in Bangkok it's get and to abuse Tram. Every pharmacy has it. It's not illegal and you don't need a prescription. You can buy a box of one hundred 50 mil capsules for ( let's see..($200 * 30baht= $6.00 (thirty baht = $1) Very accessible. But I still can't believe the amount I am taking. It has a real psychological effect on my determination.
Do you have sex often, a lot or not so much? I ask this because one of the functions I've lost is the desire to have sex. I never have ask anyone about the affect for a woman. Maybe it is an enhancer. I would be really be interested to know. What functions have you lost? I lost smell, my memory is terrible, sex, and dexterity. I sometimes can remember how to spell words I have used for ever.(I just had to look up dexterity) that's bad. What about you? I'd really like to know. There may be some comfort in knowing I am not alone.
Now, the reasons I like Tramadol. It's calming, but at the same time I have a lot of energy. I sleep only a little because when I do I can sleep 24 hours, seriously. It enhances the neurorecptors and gives me a positive attitude. It makes life in general very fun and I can handle conflicts without going nuts. It also makes it easier to stay in a terrible relationship which was not caused by Tram. I feel pretty sure I could not quit with her around, it would be horrible. I've probably forgotten a few off the reasons I like it so much?
Man, this is a long winded confession. What I can tell you Jo is that you can quit everything cold turkey and you WILL make it but you have to be able to take a punch. It's the fastest way and it will surely and it will give back some of your self-respect. You're looking at 4 -7 days of hell but normally day 4 is the apex. Of course it would be better to jump off at 4 or 2 or 1, but is that really gonna happen without other chemicals. I didn't say before but I cold turkeyed off Methone ( 10 years ago ) I won't kid you but it was tough and is one of the reasons I am having trouble with making my move.... I guess I'm a weakling. See their I went talking bad to myself... lemme see...to rephrase, I guess I can say I'm a pharmaceutically challenged person prone to repetitive behavior. oh my god.... lol. So I guess we can stay in touch if you want...I need a push.... I am truly sympathetic to you situation. If you answer this letter I will give you my other info. So Jo.... hope you're feel- ing better and know that you are not alone. Please forgive yourself it real-ly helps....good night Jo....Joy
jo61533 mrdougjoy
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you ask about my libido, quite frankly I couldn't care less if I ever had sex again. My memory is shot, I forget names, words and can be in the middle of a sentance and forget what the hell I was talking about, not great when you work in a school. Although the tramadol gives me the energy to get things done at work when we sit down in the evening I could fall asleep mid sentance.
You mention your relationship, can I ask why you don't get out, do you have children. My husband nags me constantly about tramadol, he calls me a druggie and can be really nasty. I am having a spinal epidural tomorrow and my husband said "that's good no more tablets", he thinks I can just stop.
i used to have a drink problem, but have not had a drink for 12 years, I drank to mask my anxiety and I think I take tramadol for the same reason. it doesn't work for the pain anymore that's for certain.
what is your long term plan mrdougjoy, do,you have one. Well whatever you decide I will support you all the way. You can talk me through those nights when I finally jump off and can't sleep. Please stay in touch. Lots of love Jo x
jo61533 lrac99811
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Denizen jo61533
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Don't go worrying about this 'long long road ahead' that you mentioned. Just worry about doing the next right thing. You came here and was honest about your issues and expressed your desire to get well. Thats definately a step in the right direction and you deserve praise for it. Figure out the next positive move and commit to it. One step at a time.
I started taking Tram for pain that had subsided after about 6 months and continued taking them for another two years for 'recreational purposes'.
I'm also a recovered alcoholic so should really have known better than to get involved with prescriptive painkillers.
Jo, it can be done. I kicked Tramadol cold turkey four months ago, it took me a week of bedrest and basically gritting my teeth through the long nights. I won't pretend it was pleasant but it was over a pretty shortwhile. I had spent months and months 'intending' to quit tramadol. What stopped me from quitting was worrying too much about the bad times that would come for a week or two of withdrawl, I should have been focusing on having my life back for the decades to come AFTER i get past the 'Tramaflu'.
Good luck in your journey.
mrdougjoy jo61533
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So anyway how are you. I see you met Denizen. Great guy and experienced... As I said before Denizen;s plan to prepare for hell week was the best....rest up, eat a lot, drink lots of fluids, eat a lot of vitamins and your body and mind will take less beating. I am not sure about the mind but for sure about the body, I guess the positiveness of preparing for it makes it seem more manageable. I want to say, like I did last nite, not to beat yourself up about breaking down and taking the Tram. The overdraft thing would be frightening and like Denizen said you are taking positive steps. I said on my letter last night that whensomething like that happens to me (no money for a week or something) I never about paying rent, food, bills,etc) I automatically focus on the logistics of getting more Tram....Messed up priority. Any way Jo I am here and rooting for you..and the time will be right soon, I know for sure. Now you just need a little more confidence in yourself that can survive an extended ass kicking.... I already know you can.... let me know how your day was.......Joy
mrdougjoy Denizen
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thebird55 mrdougjoy
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jen75534 jo61533
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lrac99811 jen75534
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jen75534 lrac99811
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lrac99811 jen75534
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lynn09556 jen75534
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thebird55 lrac99811
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This reminded me of something I like to tell people, regarding any addiction.
It will never be any easier to quit than it is right now.
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jo61533 jen75534
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jo61533 jen75534
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happyjoy jen75534
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happyjoy jen75534
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no, you can't do the slow method with slow release tabs. It makes it all much too hard and intensifies the coming off and the mental anguish the whole way through.
jen75534 jo61533
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lrac99811 jen75534
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thebird55 jen75534
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In theory, that should let you focus on getting over the SSRI withdrawals. Get that in balance, then tackle the pain med dependence. Keep the dosage to the minimum effective dose. And watch out for constipation. You could find abdominal conditions bouncing from one extreme to the other.
jen75534 lrac99811
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cliffdogg jo61533
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I understand your pain!
Tramadol is an insane drug, used for any purpose. I have just been discharged from 3 weeks spent in a neurology ward at hospital after having a really bad time coming off tramadol. I'm in my mid 20's and I have had to give up my dream job which I worked so hard to get, had to move cities back with my family from a place i loved living and am still suffering the remaining withdrawels, which I feel will be with me for some time.
I was prescribed co-codamol 30/500 originally for my gastro problems of six years, however found these to have low efficacy. My gp then prescribed me tramadol 400mg a day. I didn't even take the full amount but found they turned me into a liability and I struggled with reading and presenting etc. so I stopped.........what followed is the worst experience of my life but one which has provided a valuable lesson and is still not over!
After going ct within 12 hours I developed very very dark thoughts. felt my world was closing in on me and quite frankly felt suicidal. The cloud of undescribable depression started to loom and anxiety beyond words. Restless legs and lengthy panic attacks then ensued, followed by a seizure and sudden onset of a stutter. I felt I was going to die. I ended up in hospital and was admitted to the neurology ward and spent the next 3 days in what i can describe as utter hell, feeling trapped inside my mind and body of which I wanted to jump out of! I was offered all sorts of meds by the doctors to try to calm me down of which i declined all, do it properly do not replace one for another, I dont want scipts anymore they make things worse. After the initial 4 days things got ever so slightly easier, ie less panic attacks and shorter durations and my speech had just about become understandable. However, the crippling depression and anxiety, poor mobility and speach still remained! I spent the following weeks on vitamin drips, hydration drips and with the most insane insominia, i thought i was going crazy. After 14 days of literally not a minutes sleep I got to the point of despair and the doctors gave me 2 types of benzodiazepine, of which neither managed to make an impact. On day 16 i finally managed 4 hours sleep. I am now on day 26 and still suffering chronic depression, sadness, anxiety and insomnia but all are improving. I tend to measure improvement in weeks now rather than days as it is a slow process and alot of determination and will power required! If not for the love of my family i would not be here typing this, i would have taken the selfish route and ended it all I think!
I wanted to respond in a frank manner to demonstrate that it is not easy, this drug has horrific withdrawels for some if not most and that it is a long journey....BUT....you have family who love you, family on their way that will love you and need your support growing up. This will be hard and take alot of time and remember during the process that when the depression and anxiety hits it will feel like it will NEVER end and you will NEVER return to normal which is how I felt. Just keep in your mind during the darkest hours that you WILL pull through and that things do get better. I found that reading people had similar symptoms and it was not just me going mad during my withdrawel helped me keep some kind of foresight and hope.
There is a major battle ahead. Remember this is for you and blood family that you are doing this. Do not worry about your husband for now, if he loves you he will see you through this, if not he will go. Blood relatives are the ones that count now and will always be there waiting at the finish line.
I'm 26 days in and still not there but I am 80% of the way i feel. Its months rather than days.
Just to say i naturally suffer anxiety as well due to severe gastro problems. I am in my mid 20s and have to live on a pure liquid diet. It makes it hard to live a normal lifestyle for a person of my age, but you fight each battle as it presents itself to you. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Gratefullness for what you have is a must, for others it is taken away without their doing or wanting.
Good luck, see you at the finish line!
Pixiedust28 cliffdogg
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I just wanted to say I found your post to be inspirational (as are many of posters attitudes and achievements on this forum). I too am on my 20s and have been on tramadol for various chronic and acute pain conditions. I managed to cut down from 8 x 50mg capsules to between 2-4 50mg capsules a day but I struggle on a daily basis with constant temperature issues- sweating so much that I feel cold due to the damp skin etc, restless legs which I struggle with most at night, feeling down and unable to cope when they're not in my system, all over muscle and skin pain, nausea, trouble eating, stomach issues, insomnia, irritability, etc yet when I take my first daily dose of 100mg in the morning, after an hour I get lifted up and feel like I can cope much better even though it no longer helps my pain etc. I can't take codeine because it makes me throw up constantly, fentanyl patches burned my skin, mst (slow release morphine) was the same causing awful withdrawal issues so I switched back to tramadol, oramorph gives me chest pain, all prescribed under my pain management team! Cyclizine and ondancetron melts don't even ease the nausea anymore! I've been diagnosed with bipolar, neuropathy, vein damage, chronic pain, fibromyalgia, ibs, anxiety, also being investigated for gastroparesis. I'm only in my 20s, unable to work or have a family due to all this. I just want some form of life back, more than just existing everyday. I'm thinking of going cold Turkey and just suffering through it for a week or two. But then I think what if it takes longer and I'm withdrawing over Christmas and new year (don't want to ruin it for my family - they're amazing and I'm very lucky to have them). I don't go out, I don't drink, I spend most of my days bedridden but on "good days" I do try my best to get out of the house with my family.
Tramadol has ruined my life and the doctors laughed at me 4years ago when I tried to tell them I was withdrawing from it. 4 years on and I'm still so unwell - they don't know why it is etc so this Friday in taking a printout of this forums comments with me to plead with my gp for some kind of help.
Thanks to everyone here, I think you're all very strong and courageous to take on the whole challenge of stopping tramadol! It's more horrific than anyone can really put into words but it really is a living nightmare.
Also, good luck to anyone who is going to try to stop!!
Thank God for the Internet and forums or we never would have discovered what others are going through all with the same drug!!
jen75534 Pixiedust28
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cliffdogg Pixiedust28
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I'm glad you found my post of some use and decided to reply!
Firstly, with regard to the medical profession it is like with any other, such as trades men, there are those that care and are very good at their job and those who are cowboys out for the most money possible. Unfortunately we live in a ruthless world and the aforementioned seems to be less and less common.
I entirely understand your feeling of not being able to cope when you are coming off Tramadol, this stuff is vile and the withdrawals it produces worse. Within 12 hours of stopping I literally felt like my skull was caving in and my world was crashing in around me, first suicidal experience of my life!!
You need to understand that if you are ready to give up Tramadol you need to be prepared for one hell of a fight...I mean it!! Also, your family MUST know of this and must be educated on what is about to happen to you during withdrawel so as they know how to help.
Firstly I found the psychological side of this process 100 times worse than the physical and the physical side was BAD!! You also need to be aware that it feels like you are never going to come out the otherside and that you have permenantly damaged yourself, this is the receptors and neuro transmitters in your brain screaming for their fix.....power on through!! You do not need to relapse onto this medication because I can tell you from brutal experience that you will come out the other end and you will return to normalcy of some kind....remember how you feel on tramadol is not normalcy and you will need to learn how to cope with sobriety and emotions all over again as I am doing now...it's not easy but worth it!
Do you have any plan of such yet about how you will go about telling your parents about the pending withdrawel and how you will go about living in that time of withdrawel in order to ease the suffering as much as possible? I advise not using any other medications also as A) there is no point swapping one dependancy for another and B) this can serve as a valuable life lesson and make you adjust your perspective on life once you come out the other side. An example is I have an overwhelming urge to help others in need for whatever reason now, although I was like this to a lesser extent before the experience. I have also discounted material goods as a form of hapiness!
Like you, I have been diagnosed with Bi-polar, panic disorder and have severe gastro problems which also mean I cant partake in much, cannot drink, eat solid foods, do sports, drink caffeine, smoke or anything that i would consider someone of my age to do. I too spend alot of time laid up in bed, although I only allow this to happen when I am completely incapable of moving physically, it's hard to not feel sorry for yourself sometimes though! I had started teaching but this isn't possible at the moment.
You will be OK though Pixiedust, it's a long road and a long struggle but you have to think and beleive there is a brighter future. People's luck changes all the time, and if like me you beleive you create you own luck then your destiny is at your command.
I don't think there is a way of exchanging email addresses or anything on here which is a shame as it's 'nice' to find someone of a similar age to share the trials and tribulations of life with.
Feel free to comment here again an we can all assist as much as we can in helping you break free from the hell which is tramadol. I was also going to ask are you on any other meds that affect mental functions such as anti-depressants or mood stablisers for bi-polar? This will also need to be considered if so, although I should expect you are not if they have prescribed you tramadol as the combination can cause seretonin syndrome!
Look forward to hearing back, take care
tony15730 cliffdogg
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Docs say Tram is not very addictive but they are comparing it to other Opiots like codiene etc and seem to forget about the AD side of the withdrawel.
Imagine coming off anti-depressants AND stopping long term codiene use at the same time. That is the best description of Tramadol withdrawel I can compare to.
That said some do not have trouble at all coming off, a very individual thin I think.
Katebrenda happyjoy
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There are a subset of around 5% of people who's body can't convert tramadol to the stronger more active opioid drug demethyltramadol. These people do not get much pain relief with tramadol. On the bright side they won't need to worry so much about the opiot addiction side some get with the drug. Just the crappy ad withdrawels.
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A123abc Denizen
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I'm in need of advice.
I am going to stopping CT tomorrow off this horrible thing.
Your post is what made me take this decision, I have been in it for about 2 years.
But it's so hard once I'm feeling the side effects.
I have a family to look after and I need to function at a100%.
Can you give me some tips on how to get through this.
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you can do this. If you look at these posts you will see that back in November I was in the same boat as you and couldn't get off the tramadol. I was convinced I could never do it. Well I haven't taken any tramadol for 2 months, I was taking 400mg a day for over a year. I had enough and quit cold turkey. The nights were the worst, restless leg was terrible that was the worst symptom. A bit of anxiety and just feeling very low but after 4 days the worst was over and after a week I felt fine. It's not nice but it's bearab if you want it enough and it's over quick. Try magnesium citrate for the restless leg, insomnia and anxiety. It's not that bad you can do it x
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A123abc susan86741
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Nice, to hear that you are doing good.
It's actually soothing to know that it can be done.
I'm encountering a really bumpy road, it is so hard in the a.m.hours, I have kiddos to look after and the energy drain is horrific. At night it is hard also, but I can manage to sleep in other rooms in the house with out the kids actually noticing or my husband.
He is aware of what's going on and his support is great.
Please, keep up with the advice and tips because I'm sure taking notes.
sean11065 Denizen
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I've been taking tramadol for 8 years after several operations, large amounts at times,20/30 per day when I have them, I'm a recovering alcoholic and I'm terrified at a withdrawal. I came off them in September as I ran out when I was out the country and after ten days started feeling better but it was really tough , I'm planning to stop ASAP but I need help, it's ruining my life , memory, personality, I need to stop but I'm really scared I might relapse on booze
Anyone can help please PM me
Thanks
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ynotrhyme cliffdogg
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I'm amazed as to the clarity this post gives. Such great details of what goes on during withdrawl. This post put me in such a better mood.
How long did you end up having the darn depression phase? Feels like forever for me. HAHA
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Hi. I'm currently on day 5 of cold turkey on tramadol and codeine. I have been using them both for the last 6 mths. I feel pretty awful but each day gets a tiny bit better. I am also trying to wean myself off diazepam as that's an even more evil animal. I have done some research online and it seems that it will take 8 days for the physical withdrawal from tram and codeine to pass so I'm fighting to get through the 8 days. Day 3 and 4 were horrific. Spent all of day 4 in tears. I tried to cold turkey the diazepam as well and then after more research found that doing so can be very dangerous to your physical and mental health. Diazepam has a half life of 200 hours in your blood meaning levels drop by half every 8.3 days. This means if you are taking 30 mg per day or so, you will need to drop dose by approx 1 mg per week. It can take a long time to free yourself from these evil drugs. If you can get through the 8 days with support then try that but otherwise just very slowly taper off all of it. I can't believe I managed to get so addicted!! I really feel your pain right now!
Smoking or eating cannabis can help take the edge off the horrific withdrawal. It has helped me so far. I'm determined now to get to day 8 and just hope that will be the end of the tram and codeine. Now my battle with the diazepam starts and unfortunately will be a much longer and harder battle.
Stay strong. Seek help from friends and family. Share your pain and use the positivity of others to help boost your mood. There are people that care out there however hard it is to believe mid panic attack so use them to help you. I wish you all the best x