Complex Issues Around Prescribed Drugs

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I've been treated for kidney cancer over a year, both radiation and chemo drugs. My oncologist began chirping about a borderline thyroid in blood work results from the start. I think this is important because it is evidence that the thyroid levels were not perfect even b4 chemo drugs. She kept wanting me to see a specialist but I felt perfectly normal and since the bloodwork showed borderline, I felt it was normal for me.  Months passed and according to the blood tests, the thyroid levels began to push outside of borderline toward hypothyroidism. Its rather confusing when the test result is a higher number and yet I am told my thryoid production is lower than it was before. Possibly the chemo was having a negative impact on an already borderline thyroid. I have been overweight for decades but have always had plenty of energy, more than most people. So... I question everything around these results.

Finally, the oncologist prescribed levothyroxine 100mcg and the monthly bloodtests started. I was already short of breath before taking this drug but it got a lot worse with the drug. Eventually, she took me off the levo completely because my numbers shot way down to the other extreme. Bloodwork ea month continued. 2 months later she put me back on it at 25mcg.  Then 50 and now 75mcg.

Its been a little less than a year since I started taking levothyroxine and the side effects have been the worst of any medicine I ever took including chemo drugs. I am short of breath, dramatically, walking 60ft will make me notice that I need to pause and get more air, etc. I cannot lift or do any work because of shortness of breath. I get diahrea almost every day and their answer is to then take yet another medicine to counter that... no, i refuse to start piling up medicines to counter effects of other meds. I have lost my eyebrows and eyelashes and it makes me look like a freak - its not the chemo, its this stupid levothyroxine.

During this time I have put myself on a low sugar/carb diet, not perfect as I still have some things with sugar/carbs but i stopped drinking sodas for example, which was all i ever drank for 50 yrs. I have lost 50lbs including 7lbs last month, while being told I am hypothyroid - if i was hypothyroid, wouldn't i be gaining weight, not losing it? I get the burning eyes every day, and actually feel like taking naps when I never did before taking this thyroid medicine. I feel my symptoms are actually opposite hypothyroid and it makes me doubt the test results. My oncologist does not even notice the weight loss reported on her charts each month which should make her wonder about this medicine, I think.

She puts too much faith in that stupid little oxygen sensor they put on my finger each month. My readings have been 90-95 except last month it just so happened to read 97 and she remarked that I must be less short of breath? I told her no that in fact I am more short of breath than ever. She acted like she did not believe me - the oxygen sensor is a very crude device and values will fluctuate 5pts in 5 back to back readings. Cold or warm hands or cold or warm oxygen sensor will throw the number off.

My last refill of levothyroxine had an alert that the size and shape of the pill has changed but it is the "exact" same medication as before. Well... no it isnt. When I take the new refill, the pills disintergrate immediately on my tongue and become very difficult to swallow. Previously, this did not happen. So now, with all the side effects and frankly, feeling way messed up vs before taking the levothyroxine, I want to stop taking it.

We are all facing a myriad of complex problems and below I will list them:

1. Our medical conditions and body makeups are all different

2. Our drs are all different - some are very good and some are not

3. The drug industry really is an industry and we are their prisoners

4. Drs today often prescribe drugs for kickbacks (money rewards)

Its bad enough that we face serious health issues. Worse that we do not really know where to turn for the truth. Our drs want to push medications and for the most part, no doubt, that is a helpful outcome but in the case of levothyroxine... i seriously wonder. We end up with more issues caused by the medicine than we had before taking it. The longer we take it, from what I read here, the worse these side effects can become. We do not know if we are truly depending on the medicine or not and cannot necessarily trust our dr about it because they are receiving royalties from prescribing certain drugs. Its a corrupt system and we are the victims. I did not take my levothyroxine today. My last blood result was over 80 after almost a year and up back up to 50mcg per day so... what is really going on? I dont think anyone can tell us.

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    Hi I'm really sorry you've been having such a hard time with your health. When you have more than one issue it makes it so much more difficult to work out what is causing which problem doesn't it. I've also had major issues with my thyroid meds the last year. May I ask why your thyroid meds are being prescribed and reviewed by an oncologist? If at all possible I highly recommend you see a thyroid specialist/endocrinologist as the understanding that other doctors have of thyroid issues tends to be so basic that it causes more issues than it resolves in my experience. I've just been to see a thyroid specialist and feeling 1000 x more optimistic after his specialist advice - he was horrified at how GPs had been mismanaging my meds.

    Hope things improve for you and I'd strongly advise against sudden dose stopping / changes over 25mg as liable to make you feel much worse possibly for weeks - talk to an expert first.

    All the best

    Rosie

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      thx Rosie - i havent scheduled with an endocronologist because i've had so many appts and treatments the last thing i have wanted is to add to it. but i agree and have been thinking about the value of the right dr looking at this now. the oncologist has taken it upon herself i presume because i resisted adding the appt for the specialist. i dont fault her for the roller coaster ride around this particular part of my treatment but its frustrating when i was fine before starting levothyroxine and now have many effects including dry nostrils and throat at night and others mentioned before. i feel that even if my thyroid has been hypo because of chemo drug therapy, that i would not have noticed any ill effects so i would be better off having never taken this medicine. i want to discuss it with my oncologist next time i see her but that wont be until the end of the month. for now i will keep taking it but i dont like it at all. ive never been a pill popper and hate medicine that is unecessary. thx again and best wishes with your health.

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      No probs, it's a pleasure. It is horrible getting to tons of medical appointments when you don't feel up to it isn't it, but from my experience with the specialist I'd say it was well worth the investment of time and money. There's an interesting website my specialist mentioned called Lab Tests Online that explains that some people's results fall outside the normal range but if they're asymptomatic then treating them may be completely unnecessary as some people have their own different 'normals' - which is one reason un-expert doctors can screw things up as they treat to test results only, not integrating patients experience with that and to know what ranges this is safe within. Hope that makes sense! May be worth looking up the website if you're interested, it also explains about why TSH goes down as t4 & t3 go up, which is confusing til you know why, but totally logical in reality!!

      All the best

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      You might be intolerant to some of the fillers in the Levothyroxine tablets. They are not all the same. Try a different brand. I found Wockhart was good for me.
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      If i understood my oncologist right last week my last two tsh numbers have been 31 so now she has bumped levothyroxine up to 75mcg per day and the result for me is not change in how i feel etc but full on, all day water diahrea is the result. Im kind of angry about this because my thryoid numbers were borderline a year ago when she first started treating me for kidney cancer and she kept wanting me to see an endo cronologist. i never made the appt and so she started prescribing levothyroxine - 100mcg first and when my tsh numbers swung completely the opposite direction, she told me to stop taking it completely. a few weeks later the tsh was back up again so she started me on 25mcg and from there over several months has upped it to 50 and now 75mcg. What bothers me about all of this is that I dont think i ever needed it in the first place. I think it was normal for me to be borderline tsh and now that she has played with this medicine and dosage, my numbers are all over the place - meanwhile, it disrupts my sleep patterns, makes me have diahrea every day all day and has caused my eye brows and eyelashes to fall out. it may be making me more short of breath also which is significant - i can hardly do anything w/o getting out of breath. For all this - we have med companies and doctors tellings us we cannot stop taking the medicine - why is that? is it because doctors get kickbacks from our medications? we know the companies making the drugs dont want us to stop taking them. I cannot get an appt with an endo cronologist because only 2 are in my area and one is deathly ill - the other is over booked and i cannot get an appt. Im tempted to stop the levothyroxine myself and see what happens.
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      ive never been alergic to anything in my life including all the strange chemo drugs and other meds ive taken since this mess started a year ago. so id be surprised if the digestive issues i have with levothyroxine are from intolerance to additives - what kind of additives are in the medicine? Clay? i dont think clay will bother me. I'm sort of at a loss with this medicine and not very happy about it - to me it is causing only problems and not doing anything for me. thank you for commenting.

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      Unfortunately not being allergic to something is no guarantee you won't become allergic to it - I spent 46 years not being allergic to penicillin, then became allergic to it.

      Something to note is that it takes 12 weeks for the blood tests to reflect the actual levels of thyroxine in our bodies, although one can get an indication of which direction the numbers are going in after 6-8 weeks. Try taking your basal pulse as its a much more accurate measure, quickly. It is unlikely that being on thyroxine caused your hypothyroidism, it was probably heading that way anyway. Try different brands of thyroxine to see if that helps. If not see if your doctor will let you try the liquid thyroxine as it doesn't have any fillers in. Diarrhoea can also be a symptom of too much thyroxine.

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