complicated, so many variables

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I have either a stuffed or runny nose, only sometimes in between sort of nomal.  It doesn't drive me crazy and I think of it as part of other more serious problems.  First, I had a deviated septum operation on my left nostril, this is the one that runs, and the operation was to let it run since I had gotten pneumonia twice, the sinuses described as a petri dish.  As here, people with these operations seem to suffer from dripping noses.  But i recently discovered i am pretty certain I have GERD, a few night waking up from sleep and with that terrible lump in my throat and a burning mouth, the taste making it seem less like asthma than acid reflux, though they are completely co-morbid to the degree of 70% to 90% depending what you read (and medical info is all over the place, I know enough to be very wary of it).  And the way I have treated it and so far pretty successfully is to get some Zantac and elevate my head, and go on a alkeline diet, eliminating really acidious foods (lived, say, on tomato sauce,maybe the worst).  The Zantec because it seems something you can be on forever -- which I don't like and has side effects (like even pneumonia) -- I will try to cut out, so reading here gives hints (alkeline water, which I have read about and will now try, lemon, gargle with some salt water, the licorice pills to replace Zantac,etc. -- but all of these I think only are good only as a trial, each person maybe very indiviual; and the humidifier seems good too to try).  I will mention I also have severe CPOD beyond asthma, and high blood pressure (am a mess, but older too), and for the pressure, I thake some Viagra, trace amounts (about 10 mg daily) which was developed originally for pressure, and this causes stuffy noses, so if anyone cannot stop a nose, this might actually work.  The downside -- there is always one -- for Viagra for me is that it can hurt the esophogus flap, eases things, so you get more reflux maybe, just like calcium blockers for high blood pressure are also implicated.  Obviously there are a million variables, like lemon is acidic but seems to become alkeline in the blood, so is maybe good, but is it alkeline in the stomach where it counts?  or the thories that acidic foods are needed to produce an alkeline stomach.  You name it.  I do notice however that my nose is now running much more on the more alkeline diet, so maybe this contributes, the mucous is thinner, which I prefer, less toxic seeming, the kind I associate with a sore throat dripping down as well as gastric juices coming up.  Everything is related, and I am certain mood also plays a part, anxiety, and certainly being sleep deprived with gastric or nasal drips, going nuts just from this, afraid even to sleep.  Melotin is a calming drug supposedly, and a sleep aid, and maybe reducing anxiety has some benefit for nasal problems.  I have an idea that this is a neverending narrative, dust, temperature, everything, but I also notice when I am with people talking, I am much less symptom free, that obsessing about the problem can aggravate things, wanting my nose perfect can aggravate things, and my nose is never perfect except in the space of becoming problematic running or stuffed.  one other thing, dust is also a factor, clearly.  Being alive is also a factor.  

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    Hi Richard, wow you have come through the works, but life still left in you yet lol. dust and tempature yes, i can relate to this, when i worked abroad i had very little bother, but i notice come winter time and i have to put on the oil heating, this seems to set  a multitude of problems, breathing and chest problems, so im grateful for any advice here, thank you.
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      Yeah, definitely closed in stale air can hurt with dust, also it is much dryer in the winter, the way to check this by dew point, temperature and humidity related to water, and less water can be held in the cold.  That's why steam heat seems better than dry air forced heat.  Also, changes in temperature can be a problem, I think, and cold in general, outside can trigger asthma -- and then getting indoors you seem about to suffocate.  If you are short of breath stand leaning against a wall, that might be better than sitting even, and not panicking is key, not hyperventilating, short breathes, think like a guru or Buddha and expell in long breathes the CO2 inside which is what is going on losing your breath.  And check the furnace and see if there is a leak, inside there is less oxygen (in the warmth there is less air, there is more oxyen in cold air), more CO2, like a crowded club where everyone is sucking down the oxygen and expelling C02.  having plants (without fungus) producing oxygen -- and they have lists of the best ones -- also helps with some humidity in the house in the winter.  Endless stuff.  The idea is to get all this right so you can get on with a life, then something else happens, like everything is perfect and a safe falls on your head.
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    Hi Richard,

    For those following: The nasal septum is the bone and cartilage in the nose that separates the nasal cavity into the two nostrils

    I'm a tad confused..what is the meaning of "let it run"? in my youth was a boxer, had nose busted, jerk dr messed up ended up with a deviated septum blocking my left nostril..Resurgery corrected this to allow both nostrils equal space...however there was a complication with the 2nd surgery..maybe irrelevant to this thread.

    Thanks, Claudio

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      If I understand what you mean:  the doctor said by opening up my nasal passage the yellow and green gunk that festered there unable to drain out would be drain and I wouldn't get sinus infections leading, as it did, to pneumonia, twice.  That was the theory and it seemed reasonable, and I was a mouth breather altogether and this is not great for a number of reasons.  The problem with the operation can be a punctured septum, where you can sound like a dinosaur resonating sound through your nose, since the septum is thinned by the surgery and can open between the nostrils.  This didn't happen, but I guess too much bone was sawed off and now one nostril runs and the other one is mostly stuffed, and I imagine when both nostrils aren't on the same pressure level, one gets retarded and more stuffed, the air going through just one.  Anyways, ideally both nostrils are open equally and not too open, I guess, and I do think not letting the sputum out will cause infection.  
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      Thanks for the reply...yes its unfortunate both nostrils are unbalanced...do you now breathe thru this one "that runs" or mostly thru your mouth?

      Richard, what is not mentioned in most scientific papers is some "serum" within the septum due to excess swelling

      post surgery. It "can" cause excess runny nose, much like that of dry eye..it evoks an immune response similar to an alergic response. Just a thought. An easy needle aspiration can "id" and drain ..might be something to consider to pass by your otolaryngologist. claudio

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