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    Thank you so much for reading my history and your kind response . It actually brought tears to my eyes when I read it.

    I have been struggling with these symptoms for over 4 yrs (BTW I'm 58) and you are the first person to suggest anything more than seeing a rheumy who said it was osteoarthritis and signed me off, physio (which made it worse) and various painkillers. Perhaps I will be able to go back to my GP with more information, it seems like we have to fix it ourselves a lot of the time!

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      You are not the first to say that believe me! 

      Have you followed the other links in that post? One is to the northeast of England support group site which has loads of info, much of it from medics experienced in PMR, the rest from other healthcare professionals and patients. They have a DVD for members called "You are not alone" to explain the effects of PMR and its treatment to patients, family and friends and GPs - several have expressed their approval.

      Physio (as is said in the DVD I think) can often make things worse - it must be a physio conversant with PMR and aware of the limitations. Painkillers don't do a lot either - pred is the most effective painkiller because it deals with the cause of the pain, the inflammation and swelling. It doesn't, however, deal with the cause of the inflammation but one out of two isn't too bad. 

      If 15-20mg pred works your GP can be assured it is most likely to be PMR and can use the Bristol paper to guide his prescribing and management. If it does - he needs to look for another answer. 

      Where are you? Maybe we can suggest a better rheumy within striking distance.

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    I'm in East Surrey. I'm not sure whether I may have Poly or Fibromyalgia. When I've read about them seem to have symptoms that could match both. I looked for a support group near me but the webpage was no longer active. I will make a GP appt though and discuss the Bristol test idea.Will also check out the other links. You mentioned some comments from Quick and Kirwan, not sure where they are. Thanks again.
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      Quick and Kirwan are the authors of the Bristol paper. Yes, there are a lot of overlaps between PMR and fibromyalgia - the primary difference - and the one that makes PMR preferable - is that the symptoms of PMR can ususally be well managed on a moderate to low dose of prednisolone. Fibromyalgia tends to be more difficult to deal with pain. It is however - if you are really unlucky - possible to have both at the same time!

      There is a very active support group which meets in Chertsey and there is a meeting tomorrow:

      "Just the usual reminder that the next meeting of our Surrey group will take place on Tuesday, 19th August from 11am to 1pm, at Chertsey Hall, Heriot Road, Chertsey, KT16 9DR (just down from Sainsburys)

      There is a public car park opposite the venue, and tea/coffee/biscuits are available. All welcome, including those from outside Surrey, together with partners/carers." 

      People come to this group from all over the place and MrsO who runs it is a member on here - I imagine though she is a bit busy today! It meets every 2 months and last time there were people from Italy (me), Wales, Oxfordshire, Hove and Newcastle. Not sure what is on tomorrow. 

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      Hi Anne, I didn't see your post until too late to reply but with big thanks to Eileen for pointing you in the direction of the Surrey Group.  I did see a last minute message to me posted by Eileen on another forum saying you might be coming to Tuesday's support group meeting, so I took along an information pack for you, including an article on Polymyalgia versus Fibromyalgia.  If you would like to send me a personal message with your contact details, I will be happy to post the article to you.
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      Thank you so much. I was so disappointed not to make it but am on the tail-end of a nasty gastric bug. Just felt too delicate! I would be pleased to receive any info you have as I'm preparing to visit my GP for the nth time to try find out what's wrong with me. I've printed off the Bristol test paper from the link Eileen sent.I wonder if any GPs read some of the comments on the forum. They could learn so much.

      This forum is a revelation to me. Thanks for your support. A

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      Anne,thank you for your contact details and I'm sorry to hear you now have a bug on top of all your other symptoms.  I am concerned that you've posted publicly here on the forum rather than sending me a personal message. I've taken down your details so that I can post the article on to you - meanwhile I will ask the moderators to remove your post from here for security.
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      Thank you. I'm not very familiar with the site yet and unsure how to send a personal message.
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      Scroll to the top of the page and look to the right - you will see Messages in red. Click on that and another page will come up and you can send a message to the person you choose.

      Alternatively, click on MrsO's name next to her avatar and it will bring up another page and at the top left this time you will see the word Message. Click on that and the message posting page is just the same as as posting any other post except only the person named can see it.

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    That's good news. I'll make every effort to get there. Did I read about another support group in Keston nr Bromley? Tried to get an appt with GP this pm. The first one ofered was 2nd Sept unless it's an emergency! Oh well. Thank you again for your kind support.
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      I do hope you manage to find it - they are a friendly group, especially Shirley (MrsO) and Sparklin whose real name is Noeleen but is recognisable by her sparkly outfits! Not sure who else I know is a regular - but if you find either of them, tell them Eileen told you to come! The car park opposite the hall is longer stay than the one at Sainsburys but S'burys is a useful orientation point if you don't have sat nav. 

      Bromley? I'm not familiar with where the groups are but I suspect Shirley may well be.

      Wouldn't do to not know one is an emergency would it these days in the UK! Here is very old-fashioned: turn up and wait and Claudia (the GP) works until she has finished or 11am whichever is latest. And then she does house visits! Just fancy ;-)

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    Diagnosed with PMR two years ago. Started on 15 mg prednisolone gradually reduced to 5 mg with no real,problem. Further reduced to 3mg with reappearance of symptoms, pain stiffness in hips and shoulders. Have increased medication by 1/2 mg  for past five days. My problem with pain and stiffness is mainly intermittent, sometimes lasting several days. Reoccurrence of symptoms following recent four day touring holiday which involved staying overnight in three different hotels. Wondering if sleeping in different beds may partly account for flare up.
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      Evie, I'm wondering whether you have slowed your reductions down from the 5mg dose and below?  The lower we get on the steroids, the higher the percentage drop and we need to spend either around 3 months at each new dose  before attempting a further reduction or very slowly taper to the new dose on just one day of the first week, two of the second, three of the third etc.

      I stumbled severely at the 3mg level but on reflection things had started going pear-shaped at the 5mg dose but, knowing no better at the time, I continued reducing by 1mg a month as advised by my rheumatologist.  When literally becoming unable to walk again my rheumy increased me back to 10mg  where everythng stabilised and I wasable to fairly quickly reduce back down via  alternating doses of 10 and 7.5 until I reached 5mg where I remained for 5-6 months.  I then recommenced reductions but just tapering by half a mg as described above, successfully reaching zero Pred.

      Increasing your dose by just half a mg to cope with your returning pain will not help you - you obviously still have lurking inflammation and if you don't get on top of it with a higher dose it will continue to build.  If you were comfortable at 5mg thenthen returning to that dose may prove successful.  And, yes, a touring holiday, sleeping in different beds, can place stress on our bodies when our steroid weakened muscles are not strong enough to cope.  I do hope you will soon feel better.

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      Thank you so much for the advice Mrs O. Hadn't considered the effect  steroids have on our muscles,  Explains also the symptoms I experienced three weeks ago following a particularly strenuous 7 mile charity challenge walk. Pain and stiffness remained for 3/4 days. I will increase my dosage for a few months and hopefully then start reduction programme as you described. Hoping to walk the Great Glen Way next May which takes around 5/6 days but all will depend on progress.
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      Evie, lucky you to have achieved a 7 mile walk whilst suffering from PMR - that would have been beyond my wildest dreams then and still is even though I'om off steroids and in remission.  Anno Dominit might be coming into play here, of curse! 

      Remember though that overdoing exercise in any form whilst you have inflammation in your system is always likely to set you back and will entail a slower journey to recovery.  Steroids are not curing your PMR (nothing does at present) - they are just damping down the inflammation that causes the symptoms until PMR goes into remission of its own volition and that will be when it wants to and not when we or our medics want it to.

      However, we do often hear of men who suffer with this condition experiencing easier rides through the PMR maze and can get often get away with a little more exercise than us ladies - possibly due to different hormones coming into play or a larger muscle mass perhaps.

      I do hope you soon feel better on the increased dose and will be in a good place for your planned Walk next May. 

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      Please excuse my typing errors in my last post - I do so wish this forum would come up with an edit facility.
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      PMR makes our muscles intolerant of acute exercise - a 7mile walk is more akin to running a 10K race! When you are training and building up the amount of exercise you can do of any sort, you are causing tiny tears in the muscles, that causes some of the pain and as they heal it goes. In addition, in PMR the blood flow isn't as good as it should be - leading to lactate problems as it isn't transported away efficiently. It takes much longer for the muscles to repair and recover - and training takes much longer and must be done in far smaller steps.

      Whether it is the beds when on holliday I won't comment on - I can only say that when my PMR was bad going on holiday was exhausting - and I take my bed with me! It is everything - you are in different places, even sitting in the passenger seat is tiring! If in hotels or with family/friends you are taking your case out of the car, fiddling about finding things, repacking and you don't have everything to hand. And you sit up far longer talking - even that is tiring when you have an autoimmune disorder.

      Never try to reduce when something liek that is the order of the week -you need to rest if you are trying to reduce your pred dose to give your body the best chances of coping with it.

      There is a very slow reduction scheme floating around on here if you are interested - it spreads a reduciton over about 3 or 4 weeks. It has worked well for a lot of people, allowing them to get to a lower dose than ever before and without the usual discomfort. I do 1mg at a time as I can't cut my tablets, others do 1/2mg at a time. 

      But don't forget - you are not necessarily reducing to zero relentlessly: the idea is to find the lowest dose that controls your symptoms. As long as the underlying autoimmune disorder that causes the symptoms is active you will need some pred. 15mg works for almost everyone to control the inflammation to a baseline level - then you are looking for the dose that keep it there. Initially it might be 9mg, or 5mg - or if you are lucky even lower. But forcing a reduction will just allow the symptoms to return and you'll have to start again.

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      Thank you for your reply Eileen, has helped me to understand my condition much better and offers an explanation for my problems in dose age reduction, much appreciated.

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