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jessica1994
jessica1994

I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet,

Basically Ive problems with Both my stomach and my bowels, 1 I can't pass stools although they are soft (I have to help my self constantly) and constantly feel the need to pass stools, do get the odd abdominal cramps on the left bottom sode of my abdomen. What I am worrying about now is, in December I had a random onset of complete loss of appetite and feeling naucious after eating, doctor said this was due to constipation and prescribed me laxido, these seemed to work 11 weeks later symptoms returned, yet laxatives made the problems considerably worse and since then I have not been able to pass stools just with normal pushing since. Coming away from that my loss of appetite and stomach burning has returned except it's getting worse as time goes on, for the past few weeks every time I eat or drink I am burping considerable amounts, always getting nauseous and sometimes stomach pains, if I eat a substantial meal and sometimes having a big drink (I only drink water recently) then within 2 minutes Getting the symptoms I get every time I eat/ drink but 5/10 minutes I'm feeling sick and a burp will usually bring back food,(this has only happened a handful of times over this course of having symptoms) if I'm near a toilet I run for it and I will vomit but only liquids and sometimes Abit of food, for the past few days it also constantly feel like a weigh is I my stomach.

I am awaiting a letter to see a specialist, just thinking if this does sound like ibs if anyone has has ibs cause them to be vomiting continuously after food/drink?

My parents are wanting me to look at going to A&E tomorrow if the vomiting happens again as this will be the 4th day in a row! But I don't want to do this if others have had ibs cause this

So it's not so short but I greatly apriciate any responses

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  • aryt
    aryt jessica1994

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    Hi Jessica. Im kind of in the same boat as you , Iv had problems with eating , and its not like I dont want to eat, believe me I do love to eat, Im not overweight if anything over the past two months I have  lost weight due to what I have whcih is similar to your situation. I eat and then I frequently/constantly burp and sometimes I feel a sharp pain in my throat area as if something is stuck in my throat area which is a little different from yours. But I always feel like throwing up or do throw up and when I do its small amounts not huge amounts, its quite tiny, every morning I am constantly burping, and I feel something is draining my energy out of me each day. out Im not sure what it is, I have had blood test just like you and it all come back fine, and I had an ECG done on me and that come back fine as well, then I had a throat swab done on me and that come back fine as well. Iv been for a barium swallow test where they watch the liquid go down your gullet to your stomach through an xray and watch to see whether there is anything disturbing the liquid from going down or an obstruction and that also come back fine,  with not lumps or bumps, Now Im awaiting a letter from the Hospital in New Zealand(Waikato Hospital) confirming when my appointment with the specialist will be, its Horrible, and an Awful Feeling I tell ya , its even worse when People dont know the situation and Judge you on what you have or what they think you have , I just try and ignore them cause half of them are not specialised doctors anyway . and some say its a physcilogical issue, it really isnt'. Iv been to A and E just like you constantly, backwards and fourths and get told to shoo and being told that coming  in to the hospital isnt going to get you a referral straight away . They have a lack of respect for patients.;. They dont understand how much pain youre in til it happens to them '. believe me Iv been feeling this way and have had these symptoms for over 2 months now;. and I almost feel like giving up . Im not a Solid big person Iv always been slim my whole life as I have my fathers generic makeup. I have lost weight due to not being able to eat huge as meal and feeling the need to Throwing up . and nauseated and pain . the next step is the Endoscopy I have an appointment with my GP today so I will try and hurry the process'. too many people get brushed off and the situation is Serious;. I dont pass stools V often either so it is a huge worry and a Problem 
    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 aryt

      Posted

      I also get the feeling of something being stuck in my throat! Your symptoms seem pretty much the same to mine! I'm just awaiting a letter to see the specialist! It's ridiculous how they expect us to carry on with everyday life with this problem! If you get any sort of answers in the mean time! please do let me know!
  • aryt
    aryt jessica1994

    Posted

    Yes I ll definately let you know its always good to update people with what you have and what the solution if there is any solution to let people know about it so they know what they are dealing with too . Im glad Im not the only one going through it, People look at me like im a hypocondriac , someone who overdramtises overything, but my GP said she thinks she knows my condition she put it down to severe acid reflux. and I too am awaiting to be seen from a specialist. SHe put it in as a urgent referral to the specialist and they graded me as a three, so im still waiting to be seen which is a pain in the a*** . because meanwhile im still suffering. and have to put up with this til I get seen and if there is a solution that would be nice cause no one wants to have this kind of stuff disturbing their daily routine. its Painful . and just to the point where no one is listening, and if they are , they're quick to make judgment on something they know nothing about'. my doctor has given me Domperidone tablets 10mg. i take one in the morning and one in the afternoon, im not sure what that is suppose to do . hopefully stop the acid from going up into the esophagus area I was told that Pepto Bismuth could help with indigestion and nausea and vomiting. etc. we dont have those selling on our shelves here in New Zealand, the person at the counter said that they dont sell them in the stores, because doctors are unsure how to prescribe it to patients; and it kind of hasnt really been approved. I asked my GP about them . the call it something else here like nedol or something along the lines of that'. Im still waiting and it could take up to 4 months to get an appointment depending on your circumstances'. and how serious the condition is . so they put in the urgent ones first at the top of the list to be seen by a specialist'. its just taking forever'. and it really does irritate me . I try not to listen to other people cause it upsets me knowing that they dont really know the condition and the pain youre going through . so for meantime I think they should just mind their own business ya know , its complete utter b.s. listening to people who are judgmental ' I get so angry sometimes but I try not to cause it triggers my pain off; and I try and cant afford to have someones opinions set off my pain .
    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick aryt

      Posted

      What a PIA your system and now ours is in step as well. 4 months? shouldn't even be 4 days.

      I haven't a clue why bismuth isn't on your shelves? NZ small county dr over 60 years ago discovered bismuth and penicilin cured Peptic Ulcers induced by bacteria..He suspected bacteria and not "stress" was the cause of most peptic ulcers......Dr. Marshall in Au learned of this and got a Pulizer...HPylori was the bacteria.

      Bismuth  reduces acid...we used it as our back up when the PPI' failed..and it worked, confirmed  via biopsy. I will pm you with a link to the possible purchase...I had a friend in Nelson that could not get a common supplement, had to send it to him.

      Our usage of bismuth lozenges...usually 262mg (Bismuth Subsalicylate)...for gastritis...1/2 tab 15 minuts or so pre meals...night time 1 tab...I would not exceed 600mg daily. It will turn your stools dark..so be prepared...not an issue other than "visual". There are Bismuth scams...be sure the product is as above and not calcium carbonate. For silent reflux (night time) we also have used 1 or 1 1/2 lozenges..let them slowly disolve in your oral cavity. Our friend Don Claudio on this forum has a Hiatal Hernia, with acid reflux that kept him sleepless....elevated his head and shoulder night time, and has taken 1 lozenge for over a year..and has recently stopped them without a recurring problem but does yet keep his head elevated....avoids citrus fruits evening meals...or simply limited acid producting foods during evening meals.

      Your med is supposed to reduce nausea and vomiting and to increase the transit of food through the stomach. It does work for some. I wouldn't mix Domperidone with Bismuth, am not aware of any contraindications just being cautious.

      You must have been OK before this misery began...what do you think may have been its cause/s?

    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 aryt

      Posted

      Yes I know exactly how you feel! I got put on omeprazole as it was thought its acid reflux! I personally do not think this is a stomach problem but that my stomach is expressing the problem! I have used 3 suppositories since being prescribed them and my bowels seem to we working exactly as they did before this began! These suppositories I was told are to encourage the bowel muscles to contract so I am now suspicious my bowel muscles are not working 100% as they used to be therefore I am getting so backed up that when I am eating it has no where to go or something along them lines! How are your bowel movements? I went from being regular one bm per day which was soft and log like! Then when this problem started with my stomach my doctor said i was constipated... This then returned after my bowel movemtns changed to a mix between soft and hard like pellet stools that I could not pass with pushing! No matter how long I sat and pushed it would not move! Since May I have had to relive them myself and there's only so much you can get! Today which is after using 3 suppositories I did have to help myself relive it all but did manage to push the stools that were at the end of the rectum out normally but however I have drank a lot and been fine and ate without being in pain, not really burping or feeling sick! Is it possible your bm are causing this? Have they changed?
    • aryt
      aryt ann_and_nick

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      I really dont know Ann, and the doctors are really cautious about bismuth, When I told my GP about it she looked at me and said we have it but its under another name, and apparently they have to order it through for me, Im not sure why they dont have it on the shelves'. They guy behind the counter said they dont know how to prescribe it to Patients'. like what dosages they're suppose to take etc'.its $5 here in New Zealand, but she wanted me to take these tablets that she just prescribed me to see how that works'. I was so sick today and still am , Had spicey food last night, curried sausages etc and rice. I threw up like 10 times all of which is the meal I had last night'. this only occurs when I have spicey spicey foods. I knew I was going to get sick but I needed something down m stomach . I have probiotic yoghurt.Everytime I ask the doctor if I have cancer she says no you have a severe case of Acid Reflux;.Im so drained and upset and tired of the nasuea and the vomiting etc'. its almost like nothing cures the vomiting'. Im starting to think I dont have have enough acid inside me to digest the food, or my stomach just doesnt like certain Foods'.Im So upset. I dont know what to do but our public health system here they say if your condition is just vomiting etc all that then you are on the waiting list for 4 months' which is ridiculous'.Im so much in pain . that its not funny'. like vomiting' and nausea
    • aryt
      aryt jessica1994

      Posted

      Can I aske what types of food sets off your nausea if you do have nausea? Im curious. Iv thrown up like 10 times today and this was last nights meal . the doctors are saying you have to find a way of trying to deal with this and take the tablets in hopes that it will help you and prevent you from getting nauseated and feeling the need to vomit'. help you to carry on while youre waiting for your appointment at the waikato Hospital'?I hate how these doctors compare me to someone who has cancer etc'? saying oh well we have people dying here with cancer'.and your case isnt that severe. like how would they know . ? Bunch of hypocrites'. they have done all the tests , the blood test the everything test'when are you due for your specilist appointment? are you waiting for 4 months like me? Im not even on the waiting list'. If I were to get seen, it costs like $250 to be seen and this is just for an appointment. whatever is making me vomit it sure as h*** not nice it just makes me cringe everytime I feel the need to throw up . like literally sick and exhausted to the point where I cant do anything . It could be my BM. but either way they seem to be fine'. well I dont pass bowels Very often . I use to everyday but not its becoming like every 4 days or three days' etc;
    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick aryt

      Posted

      Aryt,

      Bismuth is not a miracle supplement...And I do comprehend some physicians reluctance to suggest anything that's not in their bag of

      meds...

      I cannot diagnose your condition...I can "guess"...you either had excess acid production or the lack of it at the beginning of your problem? If excess the PPI should have produced benefits and possible remedy..if lack of acid...the PPI would do more harm than good since gastric acid is a major defense barrier.

      I know how difficult it is to stick to a food diet....I think you could IF you were certain of a remedy, and the diet would be merely giving  your linnings a chance to recover.

      Let me know "if" you believe without a doubt you have/had excess acid or lack of acid? Ann

       

    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 aryt

      Posted

      I have kept a food diary and as such it was anything, especially if my meal is of average sized it would make me sick but it's just liquid that came back up sometimes accompanied with food, I still get naucious but since I have been on buscopan and anti sickness tablets I haven't had burping or really felt sick. I have no idea when my appointment will be, I rang the doctors yesterday to find out why the hospital had not received my referal to find out I lt was only sent of yesterday ( after me seeing the doctor 3 weeks ago) I am still in a lot of discomfort and gone from me going to the toilet with bm several times a day to it feeling stuck and not passed one since Friday! You can imagine the pain I am in now!
  • sam18386
    sam18386 jessica1994

    Posted

    Hi Jessica, this doesn't sound like ibs to me, something else is going on causing all these problems, why did you suddenly lose appetite?  Get this checked especially if you feel something is blocking your stomach!  IBS flares and causes either diarrhoea when you eat certain foods or constipation it shouldn't be making you permanently sick!  Beg for help you need it.
    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 sam18386

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      I honestly don't feel this is ibs, I feel it is more a problem that my muscles, somewhere between my stomach and rectum are not working properly. Im not sure why I loose appetite or how it comes and goes, I lost my appetite back in December when everything I ate made me feel sick but was never sick (went to the doctor who said I was constipated) and this time again randomly lost it as everything I ate made me feel sick, and eventually everything I ate or drank had me heaving and sometimes vomiting, since I had laxatives for 2 week when my doctor diagnosed constipation I have not had normal stools from around that time, basically feel like my bowels are not contracting properly to moves stools through and I'm that backed up that it's making me ill in regards to appetite and being ill maby? Like sometimes I can go to the toilet feel the need to pass stools, can feel stools but cannot reach it to help myself, if I push, strain nothing moves and I can go back an hour or 2 later and there's nothing there.
    • bronwyn97278
      bronwyn97278 jessica1994

      Posted

      Hi Jessica; have you tried the Durolax tabs that I suggested earlier?   However, if you feel that your bowel is blocked at the beginnning of same, you may now need a laxitive that will soften ALL bowel matter.....there are some liquid forms of this, that will soften stools, and then with the Durolax, which increases the Parastaltic movement of the bowel,, this may help to get things moving............but I still really think you need to have an x-ray of your abdomen, and if your GP won't order same, try someone else (another gp)....I really feel for you, as this is certainly going on for TOO long..............Bron
  • aryt
    aryt jessica1994

    Posted

    Im Able to pass BM. everything seems fine in that department, its the continuous acheness of pain near my throat and the continuous burping, Like really . ? it takes a toll on my life. Im still waiting to see a specialist, i went in to see a doctor about this 2 months ago. and wtf'? still waiting and waiting', Some doctors are really that  Lazy that they cant be bothered checking in  to see if everything is fine with you.Acid Reflux is like a really bad thing'. to have. it really takes a toll on your life. sad feeling Depressed by it all 
  • jessica1994
    jessica1994

    Posted

    So I had my choices of hospitals through as part of my referal today, it states on my referal clinic: colorectal surgery? Does anyone know what this means/had one? Sounds pretty serious since the fact my doctor didn't see the need to send me for one?
    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick jessica1994

      Posted

      colorectal surgery is most likely a "colonsocopy" not a surgical procedure, but it's  performed by surgeons...in most western countries.

      Don't understand your doctors suggestion "you don't need one? if not why not a CT?

      Sam suggested probable diverticulitis...an excellent guess...you have most all of the symptoms.

      Will pm you with clinical info since its far too long...basic...ER RN diagnoses of lower left side abdominal pain associated with Constipation, treatment, and post treatment. Ann

    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 ann_and_nick

      Posted

      Ahh ok, I was under the impression you Had to see a specialist who then decided if you need a colonsocopy rolleyes

      There is so many things this could be,I'm thinking rectao prolapse ( I have noticed when straining some of the anus protruding out), rectocele (with stools getting stuck) diverticitus, or something to do with colon muscles not contracting properly (but that wouldn't explain why stools seem to be getting stuck but then for what I'm eating I am passing little stools tbh, all very confusing but hopefully get some answers in a few weeks time

    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick jessica1994

      Posted

      a few ideas...stools getting stuck...inflammatory obstruction...a rectal nerve impairment can produce a signal of a bm and no fecal matter or vice versa...no signal and there is fecal matter...rectal prolapse...has risk factors if associated with other things, otherwise could be hemorroids.

      Straining can cause diverticula, hermina's, and prolapse..prolapse in your age group is rare but is associated with "difficult to pass stools or what's called "constipation"...the definition has morphed somewhat..was once  limited to  frequency,  now hard or dry difficult to pass stools, Both small hard stools and large soft bulky stools are undesirable...fiber can be challenging...too little and hard damaging stools, too much, and  large soft stools that ferment, creating excess gas..and damage. "straining"   greatly increases colonic pressure, and can bulge where ever there may be a fecalith or a weak area..thus a diverticula. And if your passing small stools with"" your current condition"" this is "good" provided they are not rocks. And most important is to try your very best to stop straining...find natural ways to keep your stools small at this present time...and continue to be "active" this may be one of your best personal treatments.

      To get back to "colorectal surgery" referral...Here, what when and how is determined within a Gastroentrology Setting. It could be a colonoscopy but if on the cheap, could be a barium enema...Personally I would prefer an MRI with contrast, second a CT with contrast..expensive..here if out of pocket $800 to $1500..a heck of a good "investment". I know many cannot afford $$...but many base their choice on insurance coverage...

    • bronwyn97278
      bronwyn97278 ann_and_nick

      Posted

      I'm sorry anne and nick:  I agee completely with ALL that you said in first part of above, and very good descriptions; but feel the necessity to explain that "a colorectal surgeon" is above a Colonoscopy...this should be done, before seeing the surgeon (or else, Yes< he will need to have one done....but the surgeon is for surgery and the term colorectal, refers to all surgery of the colon to the rectum to,the anus....and this referal will be to get the surgeon's advice/ideas first......bron he="" will="" need="" to="" have="" one="" done....but="" the="" surgeon="" is="" for="" surgery="" and="" the="" term="" colorectal,="" refers="" to="" all="" surgery="" of="" the="" colon="" to="" the="" rectum="" to,the="" anus....and="" this="" referal="" will="" be="" to="" get="" the="" surgeon's="" advice/ideas="">
    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 bronwyn97278

      Posted

      So do you think I may have been referred to the wrong person? Going straight to the surgen seems drastic when they have given me no idea what this is?
    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 ann_and_nick

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      Would any imflammtitary not show up on bloods? The feelings/ not feeling stools as you described I do get a lot. My stools are like flat soft pebble like that seem to come through very slowly where as my normal stools from as long as I can remember untill this happened was one long log like stool in the morning that was soft and could pass without straining. so my shape and regularity has changed drastically.

      Here in the uk we have the nhs so we don't pay for referrals/treatment ect just perscriptions so the way they do it is probably different to where you live im guessing?

    • bronwyn97278
      bronwyn97278 jessica1994

      Posted

      OH NO Jessica; you have been referred to the Right specialist.....he/she deals with Bowel Problems all the time....and this is what/who you need to see............you have been given many suggestions, but none are answers.............this Specialist will know/have Real ideas for you, (he/she may order MRI/CT/ Colonoscopy etc, and this is Good....as I stated in very beginning re an x-ray of abdomen,  you need to have someone LOOK at your bowel....go and get the Real help that you need.........when is your appt?....can you get back to us and let us know what the specialist says....we will all be waiting..............Bron

       

    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick jessica1994

      Posted

      you are describing a probable motility issue. plenty of scientific evidence that exercise improves muscle contractions. straining is to be avoided..

      elevate legs beyond hips, wider..the better..slow

      accordion movements should help move fecal matter along.the cause of (if in fact a motility impaiment) should be addressed. abdominal exercises are superior vs drug stimulation.small "soft"

      pebbles are usually not the damaging type. many of us can experience a temporary stool change, usually attributed to diet, illness, or medications.

      When a health care system limits testing due to

      cost, if we can go outside "private" ..and have the financial means, its an option to seriously consider.

    • ann_and_nick
      ann_and_nick bronwyn97278

      Posted

      agreement. no conflict since health care systems can vary. "here" means within our specific system..could be an HMO a gp referral could go direct to colonoscopy center, or to a gastroentrologist. In this setting the GE determines testing procedures. and in private clinics the GE may be the surgeon, or may refer patient to a surgeon. This morning within a HMO the GP (primary care physician)referred a patient for colonoscopy.patient was provided all procedure info, prep meds etc.
    • jessica1994
      jessica1994 bronwyn97278

      Posted

      Ahh ok that's good then, yes all suggestions have put my mind at rest, real answers will come from the specialist hopefully, deffinatly needs looking at. If I go and they need to do ct, X-rays ect will that be arranged for a later date or with that be done on the day do you know? Just to get an idea how long I may be there to give work some idea as to if I can go back to work that day. Appointment so far is 22nd September at 9am but been told I may be able to get a cancelation point earlier just have to keep checking.
    • bronwyn97278
      bronwyn97278 jessica1994

      Posted

      Morning Jessica;  This  I really can't answer, accurately,  until I know if you are in the UK/USA/AUSSIE Land?...Public or Private....as all of our systems are different........but usually here in Aussie, if Private, the surgeon will give you the Request Path Forms, and ask you to make appts  and have procedures, and then return for follow up with him/her to discuss the results.  In our public system, sometimes (normally) the clinic RN  will organize all of the appts/tests and let you know when they are to be done, and a follow up appt is made to discuss the results back at Clinic.........you will probably be able to go back to work after original consult (that is if the surgeon feels that it is safe and not an Emergency....which will prob be the case as no other time have you been kept in hospital)......so now we await  for the 22nd of September........and in meantime, don't try Straining, but keep up at least 2 litres of water a day, plus fibre and walking .....(I'm assuming that others have suggested things like eating prunes/dates etc for increased Fibre.....even dringing the juices of these???).............Bron
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