Decongestants for Men with BPH
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It's well known that guys with BPH shouldn't use decongestants that contain pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) or similar compounds. These substances cause the bladder neck and potentially the sphincters to close down. Before it was "well known" to me, I had a bad experience with just how much these types of decongestants can close off the urinary tract.
Cruelly, the alpha blockers that are supposed to help with flow cause congestion. I'm experiencing that now and because I won't use the "unsafe" decongestants, I find it difficult to breathe while sleeping.
Nasal strips do help, but I'm wondering if any contributors to this site have any recommendations for alleviating congestion in a safe way for men who have BPH.
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kenneth1955 rdemyan
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I don't know if you know this but men that get retro ejaculation they use decongestants to try to get there ejaculation back Ken
Howard31850 rdemyan
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I've experimented for decades regarding this issue since starting alpha blockers over 20 years ago. All I can offer you is to confirm that the nasal strips are your best option. I use them every night and they work ok. But the alpha blockers are crucial to helping my BPH so I just put up with the congestion. Sometimes I will also use one of those hand held steam misters to clear my sinuses during the winter and that helps a lot before sleep.
arlington rdemyan
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I've had the same experience. Took antihistamines for hives 4 years ago, went in to acute urinary retention and have had to reply on catheters and alpha blockers since. Unfortunately, I don't have any nighttime breathing tips but I'm going to take your suggestion and try the breathing strips.
Thanks and good luck.
richp21 rdemyan
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I just started using flonase, and it has really helped with my nasal congestion caused by seasonal allergies. My brother-in-law doc said it doesn't contain anti-histamines. I'm no longer taking tamsulosin or Cialis (thank you PAE), but was still concerned about taking an anti-histamine as I'm borderline OK without those meds..
Rich
kenneth1955 richp21
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richp21 kenneth1955
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Hi Ken,
This is from the Flonase FAQ, emphasis mine:
Because of the way it works, it may take several days for FLONASE® products to reach maximum effect. That’s why it’s best to use FLONASE® products once a day, every day, during allergy season. FLONASE® products not only relieve sneezing, itchy nose, runny nose and itchy, watery eyes**, but also relieve nasal congestion.
Howard31850 richp21
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kenneth1955 richp21
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Howard31850
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kenneth1955 Howard31850
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Howard31850 kenneth1955
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Flonase is a steroid (corticosteroid) which should never be used for chronic prolonged problems. Like any steroid it eventually upsets the hormonal balance and can intensify the very problem it is used to fix. I got addicted to nasal steroids years ago to fix my nasal congestion from Flomax and it wasn't pretty getting over the problems they created. Just trying to help here. Take care. Howard
nick67069 Howard31850
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"danger" of corticosteroid is overblown. There was a study by Mayo clinic that investigated long term use of prednisone for managing some of the autoimmune symptoms ( PMR) and it found out that there is no noticeable increase in any illness with prednisone compared with general population of same age apart from slight increase in cataract incidents. Corticosteroid are replacement for natural hormone cortisol, which is produced by adrenal gland, so as long as the dose is low ( less then 7mg) there are virtually no negative consequences.
Howard31850 nick67069
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Secondly, I go more by personal experience. When we take any type of steroid that is naturally produced by the body, this action then discourages the adrenal system from producing this hormone so when we stop taking the drug we can enter adrenal insufficiency which can be very dangerous.
This happened to me with Flonase despite the warnings from my druggist not to overuse it for chronic problems caused by Flomax. The withdrawl from it was a terrible experience I would not wish on anyone.
Also years ago before I started taking Avodart which has its own hormonal problems, I was taking low-dose prednisone (5mg) daily for my BPH. It really helped for a few months but then I had to start increasing the dose to get the same effect. When I finally stopped it I went into adrenal insufficiency which I still suffer from to this day.
Since those days I found benign easy solutions for my nasal congestion from Flomax ( I have since switched to xatral) which works well with no side effects. I was just trying to help this fellow with his posted problem since I went through the same issues.
ALL steroids are bad over the long term since they alter the functioning of our hormonal system so if there are other solutions they should be tried first.
I will unfollow this discussion now and wish everyone good luck. Howard
kenneth1955 Howard31850
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Howard you have help many on here. I was on Flomax before I had my Urolift done. Stopped it after a month did not like the side effects. It never bothered me in that way. But we all have to watch the side effect of all med's because we can get attitude to any pills. I have a grand daughter that she has a very bad skin problem. The doctor gave her a cream with 1 % steroids. They have use it on here for 4 years it works and don't work. My daughter had to stop the cream because it was not doing her any good. My grand daughter had to go through withdrawal she is only 6 years old. She has a appointment this Tuesday is going to have a 5 hour test to see what she is allergic to. Take care Howard. Ken
nick67069 Howard31850
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I thought that this forum is for exchange of the information, so that we all learn from each other... Anyhow here is the answer to your comments...
1- I doubt that there was any financial reason why Mayo Clinic did this study because prednisone has been in use for more then 50 years, so all patents are expired.
2. As far as using steroids, I am currently on them for autoimmune system problem (PMR) for several years, so I do have personal experience. I don't know who prescribed you prednisone, but I am surprised that you were not worn about abruptly quitting medication after longer use. It is known side effect that if the dose of prednisone is higher then physiological dose (~7-8mg), then body is smart enough to detect additional hormones in the system and shut adrenals down. This is why they use gradual taper system for steroids reduction. Stopping abruptly can be a life threatening and person can go in systemic shock.
I have been on prednisone for 3 years, and started at 15mg, but reduced over time very gradually to current dose of 3mg.
All steroids are bad - is a BS. Without prednisone I would be in a wheel chair and incapable to take care of myself. For me prednisone is a wonder drug that gave me my lifestyle back. (There is NO alternative treatment for PMR.) Not only I can do things because of corticosteroid, I have recovered completely and currently am training for triathlon.