degenerative disc disease, sciatica ,bulge herniated disc

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Hello I am in complete pain ! Am on hydrocodone. Effexor. And morphine but an seeing if natural ways would help trying to keep from surgery any advice 

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    Personally, I preferred spinal lumbar injections to daily pill-popping. They worked for me. Ask your GP to be referred for them. 

    I'm afraid that I don't know of any natural ways that work for that intensity of pain. Could try Pilates and other mild exercises to strengthen the back muscles, hot water bottle on back (some people swear by using ice on an inflammation), massage, passing of time. The problem with this sort of pain is that, at its worst, it is so bad that it seems to require 'unnatural' methods to deal with it.


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    Hi ob41295

    It's always worth trying natural ways. I tried acupuncture, osteopathy, cranial osteopathy, physio, went daily for traction for around 3 months and the one thing that worked for a while was the 2nd lumbar injection. 

    Unfortunately I had no choice over surgery in the end as I was in chromic pain and could only crawl from the bed to the en suite. I started to lose bladder sensation and gp called am ambulance. I was operated on the following morning. Apparently the prolapsed disc Was hitting not only my sciatic nerve but my spinal chord too.  

    For days before the op I was on so any tablets and in such pain that it's a bit of a blur now so not absolutely sure when my dropped foot happened. 

    See if there is a gp in your local practice who has a keen interest on neurology and see them. You need to have a referral for an MRI scan.     

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    Yeah I've had a MRI and am now in pain management and on hydrocodone. Long lasting morphine that helps me sleep at night I saw a neurologist they will have to take my disc out and replace it with a spacer and bolt my spine down on the spacer . But they said its a 50/50 chance it will make me fill better did the surgery relive some pain 
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    And thanks for the advice by the way 
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    Now, I have three degenerative discs, disc bulge and sciatica...........I say now because I've had trouble since I was sixteen, and there's very little I have not tried, including the daft stuff and the costly stuff, I've also had all the progressive steps which did nothing and so led my to surgery. I've had loads of treatments over the years.

    You read what I have now, well I bet you didn't think I could say that only when it absolutely kills (rare) do I take my huge array of liver destrying drugs!

    How I did it is by moving more and yes it really hurts, but I got through it (with the drugs initially) to the point where I now can do basic Gyrokinesis which is what my goal was!

    I'm moving better than I ever was, but if you're soft with pain - I don't say this to be rude, but I've had years of back trouble and you just have to get on with it the best you can manage, I know it really hurts, trust me.

    I know your pain and everything leading up to surgery has never worked for me, but it might for you. The injections (I've had a variety) were useless and all the daft alternative (expensive) things I've tried where equally as bad and I'm afraid I believe when you go too far, I think they just throw this stuff at you to make you feel better - sorry if it's not what you want me to say, but over the years I've been told some rubbish, and people advise things that have helped them and it's never worked for me because my back is just too damaged.

    The key I found is to protect your liver first, I take Milkthistle mainly, this combats the drugs I was taking. I set up the house to have walking aids, support stuff to assist me wherever I go (no longer needed now). You need to strengthen your ENTIRE body as they all support your core - the traction, physio, alternative treatment I used, only ever seemed to target my back. If you're anything like me, you end up hurting all over because you protect the area of pain!? This then means arms ache, legs and hips etc. too. They never help you with this type of stuff. By getting these in check it eventually helps your posture and your core strength.

    Ive just had the Facet Joint Injections, which as usual were useless, but because of the state of my back, only more invasive treatment, like you, is on the cards, and having previously had surgery, I just don't want it. A family member had your op, and at 48, he's guttered he didn't do it earlier as it has been his saviour!

    You may end up like I did and have to get surgery, it was done because I would have lost the use of my foot and in my thirtees, I didn't want that!

    Doing anything that's free and with guidance by the expects will help you to a certain level, but you need to do the hard work. This is what I do and so it might not do anything for you, but try anything you can, start by moving more and take it from there - I know it will hurt but little and often is the key.

    Take care :0)

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    Do not have surgery at any cost stock with exercises surgery will just male it worse like it done to me twice now they say i have failed back surgery i am worse than before a 100 fold
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