Depressed as a "verb"

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I wanted to post here a discussion on Depression. however it ended up in the Fiibromyalgia forum. It's got some info. about an event discussing depression coming up soon.

I would like to drop here for discussion a few questons just to put you all, if you like, talking about this.

Are peri and meno women being really seen/heard when they complain about feeling depressed?

Why aren't  the underlying causes properly addressed? Hormonal, nutritional, etc?

Do you know that fluoxetine has a fluor derivative that is toxic and makes you fat?

Do they tell yout the side and long terms effects of all these meds?

Do they offer you alternatives?

 

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    No I feel like I am not being heard about my symptoms of menopause. I do not think all these meds offer alternatives because it just puts you depression aside and your anxieties. 

    We need to get an understanding about depression and anxieties and what really bothers us because meds cause a lot of side effects it doesn't get down to the root of the problem which therapy will 

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    Teresa,

    It just depends on the doctor that you are seeing. Too many here in the states simply dispense ADs without a thought. Big Pharma in action. Doctors have little time to spend with patients so here's the big band-aid so to speak.

    My original GYN tried that nonsense with me and while I did give a try for brief bit and it did help quiet the ugly feelings at the time, I knew there had to be a better way. Most do cause weight gain, as does flucuating hormones-which didn't make me too happy.

    Thankfully, I found a very good Naturopathic doctor(not covered by insurance) who got me off to good start to uncover things that were easily addressed. I also had already switched GYNs, and this one is very open minded and doesn't go with mainstream all the time!

    I did end up also seeing an Integrative Medicine doctor (a large clinical institution here has recently added that to their program-thankfully-insurance does coverage majority of this) and within last few months I have been put through ringer of tests and things are finally being sorted out. Not everything throwing me off kilter was perimenopausal in origin. I tended to blame everything on the bouncing hormones, come to find out while they were not helping, there are other things to look at as well. 

    And yes, alternative medicine options have been offered as in my case, ADs were not the answer in the first place.

    I realize not everyone can afford to shop around for a different physician but for me it was an option and I am grateful for it as I am feeling so much better. Mainstream medicine has it's place, but not for women's healthcare, it seems. At least here in the US.

    Annie xx

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      Dear Annie. 

      Many thanks for your reply.

      You’ve followed the route some/many of us would like to follow and you seem to have reached an equilibrium.  That just proves how we inwardly know what’s best for us and how much better we get when we can choose our health care.

      Unfortunately alternative and even functional and integrative medicines are not a part of National Health Services in may EU countries ( I believe they are in Switzerland).  People pay higher taxes than in the US I believe, so they have comprehensive NHSs. Some people also have private insurance. But unless you’re on a really expensive insurance plan (i.e. costing many, many thousands of euros a year) they usually don’t cover alternative medicines.  It’s quite infuriating because the system is expensive for the taxpayer but doesn’t provide many of the needed answers whilst it coerces people in to following a route of “symptomatic drugs medicalization”. Good for “Big Pharma” not so for patients.

      I read, search, study  “ad nauseam” to find answers and alternatives.  Then I nag my doctor’s to engage in alternative programmes (for eg.  I’m on LDN for fibromyalgia) and for the rest of the time I buy lots of supplements and do DIY treatments.  I also have an osteopath that is private (not NHS, not insurance covered) which has proven extremely valuable in certain joint problems.

      Anti-depressants are a class of drugs I deeply distrust. Besides the reported side effects on the  information  leaflets there also the “phenomenon” of the “file drawer” that is the undisclosed/filed information about the research on anti-depressants side and long term  effects . Most doctors don’t even know about this (if you look for “file drawer mental health” you’ll find some info.).  What you describe happens in the US about dispensing ADs like tap water also happens here.  So it’s a system we’re all in.

      I thoroughly enjoy your posts. Please continue contributing for this debate.

      A warm hug. Teresa. 

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