Different Sized Legs

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armed with boundless energy fueled by the daily preds I attacked the overgrown patch of self sown tomatoes and picked them before they fell off their stalks.

A couple of pin pricks on my shin which I vaguely felt through the slightly tight, slightly unfeeling, slightly less sensitive than normal skin and simply brushed off unthinkingly. None of my usual pathetic rush to the soov (lignocaine +) to stop any swelling.

So here I am. Two days later with an oversize bit of leg. Swollen and hard down the side of my shin and calf. About mid way. About 20cm (8in) long. Stiff to walk with. And the large (3in diameter) red spotty blotchy patches from the previous couple of insect bites have come back. My world is ending. Though the swelling is now reducing.

Not to mention the itchiness. Driving me madder. And the tube of soov is nearly empty. Too late for antihistamines and I don't like them anyway.

Probably an ant bite. They breed them tough in Aus. And of course every little reaction and bit of pain now gets blamed on PMR or Pred.

I don't know what I'd do if it was something serious like a paper cut .....

Some days all that's left is to laugh.

Tomorrow I'll wear trousers instead of shorts to pick more tomatoes. They are really a lot more tasty than the shop ones.

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    Oh dear, isn't life just full of surprises, some good and some not so good but I love your sense of humour.  Take Care.      Pat
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    If it DOESN'T improve quickly I think a doctor query is asked for - your immune system is nuts at present - and if that is infected it could get nasty.

    And antihistamines work any time if it is histamine causing the problem - so they wouldn't hurt.

    PS - please send me tomato or five...

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    Julian, keep an eye on the leg. You say the swelling is reducing so that's good but if there is any open wound what with the scratching you could always bathe it in antiseptic ointment? Take care, christina 
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    Julian, if you could try some teatree on your leg, or even arnica, failing that see your doctor and still keep your sense of humour.  Let us all know how you get on.    Pat
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    Hi fellow Aussie,

    Might be time to see your Gp. .Don't want any infection to take hold.Have you had reactions like this to ant bites before? Did you see the story on TV last night  about the lady from Toowoomba who was just doing a little bit of gardening felt a bite on her finger looked down and saw a small snake attached to her glove. ripped it off went to ED started to become unwell. Symptoms didn't fit with the brown snake or other well known venemous snake bites in Qld. Toxicologist determined it was a DEATH ADDER. Lady was given appropriate antivenene and lived to tell the story!!!. Death adders are very rare they say.( I think they like to eat tomatoes. Just kidding.) Get seen soon so you can feel better. 

    Take Care

    Kathy

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      I think the lady with the death adder bite was very lucky ....
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    thanks all.

    It appears that wishful thinking isn't a good basis for a, or even a little bit of improvement. The cup was too small.

    Having watched my leg below the knee, and into my ankle, swell like a slowly inflating balloon and turn really red, I swallowed what's left of my shrinking pride and headed off to give my doctor another opportunity to help. I nearly said really really red but that would be overdoing it a tad.

    With the luck of the Irish there was an appointment within a half hour. A twenty minute drive and a twenty minute wait - a doctor's half hour.

    And with an acute sense of the mundane we agreed it was definitely swollen. The lack of an obvious entry wound allowed us to discount the possibility of snake bite (though not discarding). A history of reacting to jumping ant bites, though never so vigorously, and never so delayed, allowed us to leap a bit closer to a conclusion.

    But in the absence of more evidence, like the corpse of something venomous, we concluded that something I didn't like bit me.

    And that it wasn't shingles ('cos the blotchie bits cross the nerve lines and we even had a handie pretty anatomical picture hidden under the desk pad to show me).

    Another clue is when doctor suggested that the red bits turn brown for a bit as they fade. Which is what I had observed happened to the smaller bites a few days earlier but neglected to mention.

    So. No crutches required. An increase in the pred from 5mg to 25mg for three days then back to 6mg for a bit. While reasonably comfortable at 5mg a lingering sense that it may be a little light. And a quick course of "just in case" anti-biotics. The funny penicillin family one that supposedly targets the skin areas a bit more than others. How clever is that? How does it know?

    In my overly frivolous state I find it strange how a chronic illness like PMR and a potentially mind altering drug like pred connive to leave one physically and mentally more sensitive to the slightest possible derailment. In normal times I would simply have told my wife I got bitten and get on with picking more tomatoes.

    Who would have imagined how whimpy and anxious I've become. Judgement having totally deserted me. My next post will hopefully (there we go again) be about how rapidly my balloon has deflated and my chronically ill life returns to stable normalcy.

    In the meantime I'll be grateful  and put up with all the tender loving care my even longer suffering wife provides and hide my embarrassment.

    BTW. I think I'm lucky in the scheme of things. I think I'm getting off lightly with the PMR relative to the majority of people in this group. The tomatoes would have been on their way to Italy by now but, sorry Eileen, they got a bit squashed on the way to the post office .....

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    I had swelling in one leg and foot whilst on 10 mg of preds recently, but I'm sure mine was due to stress because of a minor operation which went 'wrong'. I was immobile for over a week, but as soon as I got going again and the stress level disappeared the swelling just went down!!  No dangerous beasties here and it too cold to venture out!  Hope it gets sorted - best of luck
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    what a pity I can't post an image.

    Then again, perhaps not.

    Within an hour of being home from doctor, plied with cup of tea and sympathy, the helpless patient observed a single, solitary, lonely, 5mm (1/4 in) blister on the inside of ankle. Surrounded by about 25mm (1in) diameter area of pimply rash. Almost wannabe blisters. Stretched and red on the blotchy balloon.

    With an over active imagination it could be mistaken for one of the many images of shingles rash present on the internet. How much easier it was when such images were only available in medical text books! Just as well (I think) I'm not a hypochondriac.

    I don't think the doctor's powers are sufficient to mention shingles and have a blister magically appear. Nor mine.......... And I don't know of any covens nearby. Maybe hypnosis?

    I'll see what the morning brings (I'm having my normal sleepless at 3am interlude) and consider another visit to my doctor for a recount and another blotchy leg inspection. Us males aren't used to having our legs admired.

    I'm not about to self-diagnose. Just there's more than a hint of something odd and unexplained happening. I have no additional pain (beyond the residual PMR symptoms). Just swelling, which is already well reduced a few hours after the extra pred, really redness, skin feeling a bit odd, and now a solitary, lonely, blister with a small patch of blotchy rash. Almost embarrassing. In normal times it wouldn't rate a mention, even on the back page. I'll soldier on bravely.

    On a serious note - I've checked that Ali has had chicken pox. So she can continue the tea and sympathy treatment!!! Maybe tomorrow I'll get a biscuit as well.

    I've always wondered how society increasingly looks for blame. I've learned well. Jury not out by any means but I'm already considering a grovel while offering the squashed tomatoes (and probably similarly squashed ant) my apology.

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    to continue the odd saga of the odd legs ..... not as odd as Seagoon's duck's legs, but nevertheless odd.

    What a team. The frivolous, hapless, helpless, wounded, patient and the insightful, knowledgable, wise, doctor collaborating in an obvious diagnosis of shingles. If we hadn't discussed (and discounted) it as a possibility yesterday I probably would have waited a bit. But who in their right mind would consider themselves lucky to have shingles?

    Its more obvious now the leg looks like just half a balloon. Its much easier when its obvious. Take the uncertainty away and life is so much easier. And the level of tlc goes up another notch.

    The pharmacy didn't have the brand named on the prescription of course. But when I asked if pharmacist would take the other brand back if it didn't work he said it would be quite acceptable to return and shout at him.

    What more guarantee could I ask for?

    And he provided a glass of water for me to take my very first anti-viral tablet in my whole life. So I let him give me the printout describing everything I already knew about the anti-viral and didn't need to ask.

    Now all I have to do is programme my mobile phone to tell me when to take tablets 1, 2 or 3 times each day with or without food. And apparently there is no cure for rattling from too many pills.

    I feel obliged to complete the anti-bacteria course of course of course. Its not like a mobile phone plan where I can never use exactly what I paid for........

    I guess I'm in good spirits because its just a mildly itchy blotchy area on my ankle with a lone big blister and a few little ones developing further up my leg. Add a firm diagnosis and some treatment and I can can convince myself the glass has shrunk.

    I'm not sure if I'll feel so relieved or frivolous if it develops into something painful. Maybe the pred high will sustain me. In the meantime I'll afford myself the luxury of feeling a bit miffed the shingles isn't as advertised. If only there were someone to complain to. Is there a medical ombudsman in the house?

    Thanks all for all the previous advice. It seems speed is of the essence when things go whonky (the PMR equivalent of when my wife tells me "the car's gone bung").

    If they were blisters on my feet from walking I'd burst them and dry them out with meths. Any advice on the shingles blisters? My inclination is to simply let them go their course. But there may be a better way?

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      Let them go their way - like chickenpox they will scab over. In fact - IS it shingles as opposed to chicken pox as it seems a strange place for them to appear, not heard of shingles in legs before... It is possible to have cp twice, though very unusual.
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      ta,

      I once had measles twice! Chicken pox only once so far.

      There's a few googly images of shingles on legs but less common. I guess the virus has further to worm its way along the nerves from its hidey hole.

      My single significant 25mm patch with the one blister is on the inside of one ankle. Hints of small blisters on parts of shin. The chart from under the docs desk pad showed the major nerve lines (like the sciatic) which it follows. Its really a very mild attack so far of whatever it is. And the blister is still clear after a couple of days. If it wasn't for the background PMR and steroid messing about I wouldn't normally bother about it.

      I thought for a while some loose vegetation stuck in my sock from whipper snippering had irritated. But the climate means I only wear socks when absolutely necessary, and they can last a week or more with only being worn a couple of hours. Cosmetic more than for warmth. Last time was the morning before first doc visit for a meeting. But the swelling and bit of irritation / itching were already there. I've been sockless since.

      But shingles is so much more emotive across the dinner table than cp. How can I possibly dine out on cp. My story line will be shattered! Sympathy withdrawn. None of the "I had that and it was terrible". Though I'm sure I could find a way. We are a strange race.

      Whatever it is its not progressing very fast and hopefully now going backwards. The swelling is well on the way to disappearing. And I can fool myself the tenderness is lessening. Just a mild itch around the blister. Which gets worse when I write about it. Mental imagery of the little wormy things retreating up the nerves back to their hidey hole, to lurk, waiting for the next opportunity. Alien (the film) will never seem the same again.

      On serious note - I tend to keep an open mind on most things. And this is no different. I think I live with a lot of uncertainty in general. Which I temper with knowledge and experience. I'm very slowly getting used to a bit more than usual uncertainty with my health. And learning about things I suspect I hoped I wouldn't have to. For the moment for me shingles is a convenient label that allows some treatment. I suspect that at the end of the simplistic day there's viruses, bacteria, and one's own immune system plus genetics. Since the immune system seems to be failing hopefully the anti-bacterial and anti-viral will work and I seem to be taking both. And I can always take the anti-viral back to the pharmacy if it doesn't.

      To be honest I'm more concerned about the effect of the pred on mood swings. Not nice. I'm definitely not myself and will be happy to revert to 6mg after only three days of 25. But at least I know.

      PS Hope you all don't mind the thinking out loud ramblings but writing it seems to help put things in perspective. 3am again. Back to sleep.

    • Posted

      Sure you didn't twice have measles once?

      And cp as an adult is usually AWFUL...

    • Posted

      Julian, I appreciate you are taking all sorts of medication and ointments for this mysterious affliction but could it be a fungal infection. Yes I know it's not in the crease of flesh were it normally is but if the area concerned was covered by a thick wooly sock then it is possible for a fungal infection to develop. If it was a very hot day and there was little nice cool circulating then a fungal infection can develop and I have had then before where the skin has little tiny pimple type lesions. Just a thought, regards christina 
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      could be. The climate here is humid at this time of year. Minor facial dermatitis that I've been free of while away mysteriously returned within a few months of being home.

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