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frank47
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I have recently completed 2 stool sample tests that have rendered the same outcome, positive for parasitic organisms but unable to identify. Now I have to complete the exam a third time. I have still not received any treatment and have experienced some serious health problems over the past few years, including an idiopathic cardiomyopathy a little over 2 years ago. Two years before this I was hospitalized for a serious virus that could not be identified. This involved a very high fever, diarrhea, vomiting, and the start of kidney failure, however I went to the emergency room at the right time. One month later, I had mono, then 4 months later, had a palsy in my left foot, then less than one year after, started experiencing chest pain, serious headaches, and extreme fatigue. The emergency room kept sending me home telling me it was a virus. Finally several months had passed after numerous visits to this ER, I went to a different hospital where they found a cardiomyopathy. My ejection fraction was 35%. I am only 37! Just after this, I noticed one day that I had experienced severe itching in the rectal area with several days of white discharge that had an odor of infection. I waited for a couple of months to see if things would get better, and they didn't, so I went to the ER. I told the doctor about the cardiomyopathy and previous mysterious illnesses, he completed a brief rectal exam, and said it was probably internal hemmorhoids. I asked if a parasitic infection was possible, and he said it was very unlikely because I hadn't been out of the country in several years. So he never tested my stool. Two years have passed, and I have had the same/similar problems since, and have reported this to the doctors over and over. For the past year and a half, I have developed new symptoms. Extreme fatigue, weakness, joint aches, headaches, constipation and diarrhea, greasy, yellowish stools, sweat that smells like ammonia, skin peeling out of my mouth, gas, burping, bad breath, weight loss and loss of appetite. In addition, I have mysterious skin rashes with hives on a daily basis, and started taking pictures of them to document this. In December of 2012, I tested positive for lupus with a positive ANA, and my doctor ordered the test because my eosinophil percentage had consistently been flagged on my blood reports as high. I still was not getting any answers, so I switched all of my doctors and have been going to the city. This is a world renowned hospital. Upon meeting my new doctors, they ordered a repeat of blood tests. This time the lupus was negative. The doctors quickly dismissed the lupus results prior, and said that sometimes people just test false positive, with no further explanation. Back in April of this year, my doctor informed me that my vitamin d level was very low, 12, should be between 30-40 he said, so I have been taking prescription vitamin d. I met with an infectious disease specialist a month ago, and she said she didn't think that I had parasites, but she would test because of my eosinophils. Bingo, I do have them, and now the doctors are trying to say they are parasitic but may not be causing my symptoms. For several months I have noticed that there is strange looking debris after blowing my nose into a tissue. Last night, I am about 99% certain that it was a small worm, certainly looked like one, and I was a teacher, so I am fairly well educated. I saved it in the tissue and put it in a zip lock bag. I don't know whether to call my doctor or not on Monday morning, as I don't trust him, and think he will once again be dismissive. I already went through the HIV phase with him, and told him I didn't have it, as I've only had 4 partners my entire life, have never had unprotected sex, I don't rim, and had an HIV test. I haven't been sexually active in about three years, so I knew I couldn't have it. I retested a couple of months ago to satisfy him, and it was negative once again. I have asked him if any of my past symptoms are connected, and he didn't think so. I disagree. The only diagnosis I have is another one of idiopathic nature, uticharia, (spelling) and says my blood work is fine, which it isn't, because my vitamin d was very low, and my eosinophils are still high. Any advice on what I should do? Prior to all of this stuff over the past 5 years, I was very rarely I'll. now I can no longer do many of the things that I used to, as I don't feel well enough, and I would really like to get some normalcy back in my life. Is there a doctor who can answer this without telling me that I am imagining things? The test results obviously indicate that I am not.

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  • mstar430
    mstar430

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    Hello,

    I am not a professional, but I have had parasite experience from working at a colon hydrotherapy & nutritionist office. I had a intestinal parasite in past & my son is experiencing pinworms.

    I am never shocked by the incorrect diagnosis from doctors. This is why it is so important to be as informed & read up in any way shape or form you can! You sound like an intelligent person, who has been dealing w/ many of different symptoms. Parasites can be picked up anywhere, not only while traveling...that doctor is ignorant! I would try PARA-RID- (or something of the like) Its made by a supplement company. It is a homeopathic approach of supplements that naturally makes your intestinal tract inhospitable for them to live. Its a 2 step thing that maybe takes a month to complete. Also don't eat any processed sugar if you can help it...they thrive w/ this diet.

    If you are having that itching anus periodically, that is due to the female only lays eggs every few weeks & its outside the anus @ night. So you need to make a concoction of tea tree oil & garlic & apply around anus before going to sleep (possibly more?) to stop the eggs from hatching & getting re-ingested.

    Also you could go to a colon hydro-therapist to flush your system. Changing diet habits to boost your immune system. No anti-biotics . If you have been on any type of anti-biotics you must post duration follow thru w/ a cycle of PRO-BIOTIC's/ this is due to all of your healthy flora in ur gut gets killed while its trying to kill any bad bacteria..it kills ur good bacteria which is meant to keep things in our body in harmony. Funny how NO DR. tells you this? Why I don't know. R they really that knowledgeable? About how the human body works? This is my issue w/ their pharmaceutical loyalties? That's another issue completely.

    Check in to Wheatgrass (fresh pressed), spirulina, chlorella, these are some power packed natural immune & health boosting additions look in to.

    I hope I could help a little. this is my first time to this site. I'm from the U.S, Hawai'i, I'm looking up info on pinworms for my toddler. 2 negative results in 1.5 months. I definitely see abnormal worm like stool. Now I'm attempting the scotch tape test around anus in attempts to find eggs to bring for lab testing. To positively determine whats going on,.

    Good luck & Take Care. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have..if you feel I shed any light.

    ;

    • anna65550
      anna65550 mstar430

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      Hello. I am new to this site and I am very desperate. I have been in such pain for over two months. I have been to the ER twice this past week alone. They keep sending me home saying I had a kidney stone or I have a virus. I know I have a parasite or parasites by the look of my stool. I see things in there and even showed my fiance. I took samples to the ER and they looked at me like I was crazy. I am trying to find on here not only long string and mucouslike looking stuff as well as round, brown bug-like and the size of a small tick things too tonight for the first time in my loose stool. I have issues with constipation, so I take laxatives and then I get the opposite. Sorry to be so extreme and descriptive but I do not know what else to do. I have an appointment in two weeks with a gastroenterologist, but my anxiety with the thought of things living inside me that do not belong freaks me out as well as dealing with the extreme pain. I just got off antibiotics. What should I do next?
    • anna65550
      anna65550 mstar430

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      I not only suffer from abdominal and upper stomach pain but I also suffr from muscle and horrible back pain, upper and lower, including my spinal cord. Sometimes the pain is so bad I feel like I cannot stand it. It really is bad. I have a rheumotologist for Fibromyalgia but you know how that goes.
    • SarahH1982
      SarahH1982 anna65550

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      Hi! My name is Sarah! I'm here to tell ya hun your not alone!

      I've been suffering my whole life with the same issues and a whole lot more!

      H pylori (a parasite), dwarf tape worms, liver fluke tape worms, and garidia( not sure. On the spelling) parisitic tape worm...has about led me to grave! Get tested! Google all of the above! Do ur research! For starters everything you have talked about. Sounds like H pylori! But bathroom habits are yes what H pylori. Does to but if nothing is showing up in your stood u may also have the dwarf tape worm! It inhabits one host and for years never be detected. Due to it drops larva spontaneously at random times and the tape worm never comes out until killed! Very small, clearis white & brown

      With destinctive markings! Google! Good luck, Sarah

    • klb62
      klb62 SarahH1982

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      Hello Sarah1982,

      I was wondering if you are doing better from the natural homeopathics (I think that's what you are taking)? Please fill me in?

      Thanks,

      klb

    • SarahH1982
      SarahH1982 klb62

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      Hello klb62,

      my answer for you is YES the creepy crawling, sudden sharp pains, movement under my skin has FINALLY STOPPED!!!!  my tatic well (* try at your own risk and i am not a doctor and am not resposible for any kind of health issues*) sorry for my own protection smile as crazy as you may think it is I flushed somethings out of my body that still makes me uneasy using the bathroom!!! 1 1/2 cigerettes or tabacco ( remove filter and paper) take a piece of the middle of a slice of bread, make a bowl like shape and put the tabacco in the bowl like shape of the bread. now remember you have to chew the best you can and eat this so the smaller the better!!! BELIEVE ME!!! now take the bread with the tabacco inside and squish the bread up to wear the tabacco will not fall out... get about a 1/4 cup of Milk in a glass ready to go to chase it down....  IT is HORRIBLE TASTEING but if you do this for 3 to 4 days or effectiveness you believe is in progress it worked for me! DAY 1 * word of the wise stay HOME! A shower and toilet are going to be in major need!!! whatever is inside you will come from all directions SHOWERS are AWESOME!!  your gonna have an upset tummy and maybe a little cramping but inbetween sessions with the toilet and shower *SLEEP and FLUIDS!!!  Day 2 * the Toilet is still a MUST and the upset tummy is a factor but you will notice is not as bad... DRINK FLUIDS Day 3* the toilet is a need but things should tamper down a bit and the upset tummy is there at first but fades!!  Day 4* only if you feel you need too depending on the amounts you have passed is how i judged! Now remember in 14 days what ever eggs that are inside you will begin to hatch so note it on a calender of when you need to take the homeremedy again kk I took it  only for 1 day the second time around and then went ahead and got the pinworm medicine from Walgreens and had the whole family take it! WASH every piece of bedding and clothing that may be infected with worms or its eggs.... shampoo all carpets and if you have access to a shampooer that does floors (has a steamer) use it!!! Clean Clean Clean!!!! 

       NOW FOR THE GOOD PART!~ I got hurt at work over a year ago and my left hip, left groin, right ankle and lower back caused me sever pain *and still does* well i got severly sick on top of everything else and found out i had Hpylori, Toxoplasmosis gondii ( in my right eye), and also three days into treatment for Hpylori i was givin prescription worm meds for dwarf tape worms. I did the triple treatment and im here to tell you i think being hit by a train would of been easier! well during the treatment that i took for 2 weeks i noticed that i was passing what looked to be worms and a few other things that NO DOCTOR HAS BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY STILL ( i think they are very similar to Liver or Lung Flukes!  well i vomited for months and until about 11 days ago when i did the cig home remedy i still was! i couldnt hold anything down!! i lost ALOT of wieght as in i went from 141 pds  april 18th to (my lowest) was 98 pds on July 21st! im 5 foot 3 ... it was scarey! well im happy to say i wiegh ruffly around 130 pds now and believe me i LOVE FOOD!!  so ive went threw a bunch to tests ct scans, xrays, mir, and a nuclear bone scan to try and find out WHY i cant walk or still put weight on my left leg... it turns purple sometimes blackish around the foot area.... i have a hernation of the T11-T12 that is "mildly" impigmentating my spinal cord and so on and so forth also my L5 and S1 is bulging. the specialist says that neither are causing the weight bearing and walking issue. So the nuclear bone scan was done and i have a rather large glowing area in my pelvis, I also glow> up my spine, in my kidney's, in my throat , in my neck , shoulder blades, face and the skull area..... the funny thing is not only are the area's that glow the same exact area's i felt the creepy crawling events ( i was told that due to depression it was causing me to halusinate by two ER's and a handful of doctor's) but also in my upper viens in my legs that flow towards my knee's, in my knee's visable growing 50 cent piece size "tumors" are present and the right ankle i broke/injured glow as well... i felt movement there also... The doctor says that it is cancer... and with that im a loss of words...  im adding an Xray pic to show you the tumor areas... and try and load the bone scan.... HOW DID THEY MISS THIS? and if it is cancer why did they not pick up on any of it with an endoscope of colonoscopy that was done in June???? the endoscope results were that I have GERD ( i have never really had an issue with heartburn just from time to time) but now since the treatment and where a biopsy was taken that was negative June 3rd i now glow?????? and i have to take prilosec twice a day or im hurting and sick to my tummy so bad i cant see straight.....     

    • lsaustin
      lsaustin SarahH1982

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      Hi Sarah, I was just wondering how you are doing? I recently came across some info on teh web about turpintine as a cure. I'm not sure if it would help but it might be worth a try.
    • lauriej
      lauriej SarahH1982

      Posted

      Hello Sarah, i have read some of your posts. Can you tell me more about your pancreas conditoion? I also am going through the dx.

      Thank you

    • msmel
      msmel anna65550

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      you can buy mini electronic pulse machines which can be left on the area using the sticky pads and then turned on when needed to give a feeling of pain moving off.
    • NotSoDitzyNow
      NotSoDitzyNow SarahH1982

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      I'm no doctor..just a mom with a cause...I have been dclining for a long time healthwise. Had blood test and rectal exam and cat and mri done..pulled a black dot outta my eyeball under the lower lid after I had just set up for chunks is had coughed up from lungs to be tested. for hookworm..although this dot was penetrated into my eyeball and I got a sudden migraine lime I had been increasingly getting to non atop point over two year timeframe and my bad vision suddenly fixed itself within hours of removing this dot and headaches were gone for good...my results were negative and non living

      organism...supposedly my meningitis like symptoms that.

      repeated themselves every couple months was viral infection but didn't wanna bother finding out which cause so many

      I told about veins in legs going vericose while I was only 25 at the time..now I'm 30 and they were up past my knees lookedlike tiny worms...under skin...pain in all organs throughput pregnancy was said to be inflamed kidney and liver. thyroid levels were always off with blood draws..my oldest son was diagnosed ADHD but always very small and looked malnutrition like. pedisure didn't help weight gain..I chose to take our problems with health into my own care...I learned a lot when my daughter had pinworms so bad that even after four treatments they still came back...I educated myself in every possible way on parasites and natural herbal cures. Every health problem is caused by a parasite of some kind..for every organ we have there's a parasite that's made to feed on it. I have found my personal go to cure for worms and every other parasitic or viral or bacterial or fungal infection its essential oils...my favorite of them all are eucalyptus and clove ...the need for utmost careful use of either of these is very important and you need to get a proper dose chart..but if you want ti the yourself if these problems I guarantee this will help. best of luck.

    • dulcinea1970
      dulcinea1970 anna65550

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      i am just going to say google Fasciola Hepitica as these are THE SAME symptoms ive been having for about 20 months! i have found all what you say and tomatoe skin looking things in my stool! i have been trying to get them diagnosed for over a year! NOT ONE DOCTOR IVE BEEN (including infectious disease doctor) TO has been able to figure out what's wrong with me..LIVER FLUKES! a food borne parasite that is ingested by eating raw watercress or fish or meat...please google this and look at the images...Im STILL trying to get diagnosed...ive lost like 80 pounds..im sick all the time..and what i find in my stool is almost inhuman

  • ali63625
    ali63625

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    I am not a professional either, but as a fellow parasite sufferer I believe they do. I have diabetes, which is often believed to be 'auto-immune' in origin, but certainly in my case I am pretty sure it is Ascaris and/or flukes in my pancreas that is the real culprit.

    Although I have suspected I have parasites for at least 6 years, but couldn't get anyone to take me seriously, it's when I have embarked on natural elimination procedures that has really shown them up. I am now very aware of them. I feel them all over my body, making mincemeat of my tissues, but am particularly sensitive to them in my left side (possibly a 'nest'), in my back and travelling up my neck into my scalp and face most nights.

    The two samples I have submitted have both come back negative. But I am not stupid. Writhing, squirming, wriggling and biting within the body are not normal feelings. They are the kinds of feelings one would expect from having worms in the body. Doctors just don't seem able to understand this. Here in the UK they are unable to think or work outside 'the box'. I feel sometimes that this issue would be understood in virtually any country other than the UK.

    We may 'rule the waves' but does that make us immune to or invincible in the face of parasites? Of course not. We are human, and vulnerable to any parasitic onslaught that is facing any other nation. We don't need to go abroad, we have enough species of our own. Besides, these days, 'foreign' parasites come to us transported in imported food and people.

    Time was our great-grandmas would very regularly give their kids a hefty dose of castor oil, or senna, or syrup of figs to prevent anything nasty getting a foothold, but who does that now, or even thinks about it? People think nothing of deworming their pets or livestock, but how often would they consider it for themselves?

    Becoming 'civilised' seems to have resulted in 'mental retardation' as far as parasites are concerned, in the UK.

    I have discovered to my detriment, the error of ignoring our ancestral wisdom. The longer these things are in situ, the harder they are to eradicate. Whatever you throw at them naturally you have probably consumed at some point and have given them an opportunity to become resistant to it. I am very rapidly running out of options. When these things sense they are under attack, they lay eggs by the thousands to continue the cycle. How can you beat that?

    I am at my wits end. Endless sleepless nights due to their activity is depleting my health. They are constantly hijacking my nutrition. The herbs and spices, so far have proved fruitless, but apart from the fact I can't get my doctor to prescribe them without 'proof', I am reluctant to take helminthic drugs in case they cause a massive die-off and trigger other issues, such as intestinal blockage, or encapsulated cysts, etc.

    The words, banging, head and brick wall come to mind......

    It's been 6 months since you posted. If you get to read this, it would be good to know if you have had any success since....

    • frustrated61
      frustrated61 ali63625

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      Hi Ali ~

      I'm from the US and here to tell you, the doctors here are just as closed-minded.  I've been troubled with symptoms of parasites for almost 9 years now and I just gave up asking someone to check me or test me ...they all come back negative.  I did start taking DE food grade but it's a temporary fix...what I mean is, you get a response pretty quickly however, after a few months, it just stays and doesn't progress. 

      What, if you don't mind me asking, were you taking to rid yourself of the parasite?  I too am at my wit's end.  I do not sleep well at all and my nutrition is something not to be desired.  I try but it's fruitless as, like you said, constantly hijacked from nutritents.  LOL@ banging head and brick wall is exactly how I feel when explaining my symptoms to any doctor. 

      Another thing, with the DE food grade, it did cause massive die-off and triggered other issues (as you put it).  I was just in the hospital ill and with major blockage and I know it was from the DE food grade.  I stopped it for a while but I'm still feeling the die-off.  I feel it in my eyes, eyelids, around my mouth...neck, all over.  I would be so grateful is anyone has an idea that actually works to rid them off indefinitely. 

      I'm immune compromised with two diseases....sjogrens and sarcoidosis.  Some of the issues I've shared with the doctor came back as her saying "oh, that's your sarcoid...or the sjogrens"....she hadn't a clue what it was from, I don't know how they still stay in business...unfortunately, business.  Our health is their business! who knew!

      Anyway, if you have an ideas on what to check into regarding ridding oneself of parasites, please share!  Anxiously awaitiing your reply

      Frustrated

    • Whisper2003
      Whisper2003 frustrated61

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      You have my sympathy. I was tested by a kinesiologist and parasites were in my large intestine. He has given capsules for me to take 3 x day containing Cayenne,Garlic,Horseradish,Thyme and Wormwood.Hope this helps someone! I always use herbal/homeopathic wormers successfully for all my animals - so why not for us!
    • nitropilot
      nitropilot frustrated61

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      This is my experience only. Research! Start with a Vitamin C-Sea salt flush. Add fiber when you do the DE. No sugar, which starves them. Drink coconut oil or swish for 20 minutes (oil pulling). Research! Careful with the coconut oil because it will also push out your gallstones. Its best to eat a LOT of apples when using it to soften stones. Natural sugar, via fruit to add tasty fiber, in moderate amounts didnt seem to set me back. Research! Detox baths to pull out toxins from die-off. I mix DE with Bentonute Clay but only as part of the arsenal. Pumpkin seeds , with shells. Shells don't digest & will cut them up. Research! Look up mucous plaque. It's a toxic layer  (NOT the healthy, normal layer) that protects bacteria & parasites. There is SO much info out there and only you can decide what you can handle. Did I mention research? It takes months and months of education & discipline. When you think you've killed them, keep going and going.  It's one of the hardest things you'll ever do. It's been 68 days for me and I won't stop until I go a full 30 days with a healthy digestive process. Note: Always look up any supplement & a condition. Like, whey protein and autoimmune disease, etc. You will find out if any remedy will affect any of your other conditions.
    • frustrated61
      frustrated61 Whisper2003

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      Thank you for responding!  It sounds like you've put a lot into your research and found someone you trust.  I just checked and U of M has a kinesiologist program in their hospital.  I'm thinking, since it's a learning hospital, that they may check me so the students can get somewhat of a "live" education.  I'll call tomorrow and find out!  Thank you for that.

      I agree using  the same for our animals...I am giving my pup the DE food grade dog biscuits...she loves them and reminds me everyday tha it's 3:45...time for her treat!

      The remedy you were given, are they found in the health food/whole food stores or is it a script? 

      You can't believe how excited I am that there may be an actual person that believes what I'm experiencing. 

      Again, thank you for responding.  I'll let you know how things go.

      Frustrated

    • frustrated61
      frustrated61 ali63625

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      Thank you, Ali ~

      I appreciate any help I can get.  I have heard about juicing but never tried it.  I can see where it would give the demons something to fuss about.   I cannot believe that up until a few weeks ago, I realized that these critters crave sugar and all the time, I thought it was me craving it.  So, no more of that stuff! 

      When you started juicing, did you get much die-off?  That is the creepiest feeling I've ever experienced.  And, when the hatching time comes, I do feel crawling into my hair and up my face and my eye lids...it's horrible.

       Why don't the doctors just get with it and if the did, it would only bring more money to the office.  No, instead, they make one feel like they are nuts. I actually had a PA pretty much slap a slide into my hands and told me to put one  on it...I told her it doen't work that way...she looked at the girl she was training, and raised her eyebrows and whispered loud enough that I heard her say...I think she's losing it!  Needless to say I didn't allow her to get away with that and told her if I were as mean as you just were, I could tell your trainee quite a story...don't you think! (she gave a definite misdiagnosis when my back was broken in an accident..she said it was just sore muscles...long story but when I said I could tell quite a story...she grabbed the trainee and told her to help her with something!  She wouldn't leave her alone with me anymore!  How incompetent.

      Bpttom line is I appreciate your help and I am going to check the juicing out!  Will get back with you in a few weeks or so...

      Frustrated

       

    • frustrated61
      frustrated61 nitropilot

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      Hello Nitro!

      You sound like you've been studying this for a long time!  When you said to detox baths..what did you use?  I wasn't sure if you were telling me to use the DE with Bentonute Clay....please clarify. smile 

      You gave me a lot to work on and I'm going to do just what you suggested.....Research!

      Thank you and I will get back with you on how things are going or if I get stumped,perhaps you can suggest something.

      Warm regards

      Frustrated

    • nitropilot
      nitropilot frustrated61

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      Something as simple as Epsom salt and apple cider vinegar ACV, with virgin cold-pressed coconut oil mixed in your lotion. Or as complicated as bentonite clayclay or activated charcoal (but you need a pound or two for one bath! or a sea salt bath with baking soda.  I just use what I have and/or can afford. You can ingest or bathe in any of them, as long as they are food grade. 

      From my experience, hot is too much. A very warm bath is good. Whatever you use, stay in until the water cools. That is when the toxins are expelled the best..when it cools and draws them out. I've read at least 20 minutes, but if I don't stay in till the water is almost cold it almost seems to aggravate things. If I don't have time, I mix this or that in a used water bottle & use it as shampoo, conditioner or body wash. You'll get to know what works best for you. I'd start with the simple stuff first. You can also do clay body masque but its very clumpy, takes forever to dry & very messy! Side note: keep extensive bookmark folders so you don't misplace webpages you want to refer to. Lol

    • frustrated61
      frustrated61 nitropilot

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      Thank you for responding so quickly.  I'm headed out to the store tomorrow so I'm glad that I have at least something to start with.  It sure helps to have these forums, sure saves on time!  I've been basically on my own for almost 10 years.  Quite a few of those years I was very ill...which made it hard to get online and try to find things out. 

      Since I'm at least somewhat human lol...I've been reading up on way too much so I get what you mean by bookmarking the folders! 

      I'll get back after I've tried the warm bath...not sure yet what I'll put in it but you've given me lots to check out!  Thank  you!

      Warm regards

      Frustrated

    • Whisper2003
      Whisper2003 frustrated61

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      I hope you can get tested as we are all individual in what works for us! Thats what makes it so difficult. What I have is a script but if you can get pure, organic, fresh ingredients its the same - but not always easy to obtain. All the best.

      Whisper

    • ali63625
      ali63625 frustrated61

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      I have a theory I have been mulling over

      Not being able to sleep in the early hours is a good time to think.

      Do you have lots of amalgam in your mouth, or root canals?

      Could parasites be there because they are trying to deal with a toxic burden for us? Perhaps different parasites do different jobs.  Maybe the body uses them as an aide.  Maybe the issues that are created by their presence is the lesser of two evils.....

      There is a concept floating around that parasites do have a role to play, that they are able to convert toxic substances into benign ones.

      Maybe they only become a real problem themselves when the toxic burden becomes so great they have to generate lots of offspring to help deal with it.

      There are many doctors and health professionals out there who believe that amalgam fillings and root canals are one of the biggest and most insidious factors behind disease today.  Because the toxic build-up can take years to manifest, its effects are largely ignored.  

      It is ironic that a Government that is so hot on removing lead water pipes, and neurotic about other substances like asbestos, should turn a completely blind eye to the fact that most of their population is walking around with gobs full of the second most toxic metal known to man!

      I was thinking about the role of worms and parasites throughout the centuries.  They are often associated with overcrowding and poor sanitation.  And that, typically, was found in towns and cities, as also was found lead water pipes, arsenic paint, zinc, tin and nickel utensils and cutlery, brass and iron tools, etc., etc.  Did the worms follow the toxicity rather than be a problem in themselves?

      They have found evidence of worms in Egyptian and other ancient skeletons.  They too used metal drinking vessels, lead glazed utensils, and other metal implements.

      Whilst the worm burden is frightening and exhausting, perhaps the alternative without them might just be the worst of the evils after all.  Interestingly, Dr. Simon Yu in the US recommends amalgam removal at the earliest opportunity.  He cites an experience of one of his patients, an elderly lady with tongue cancer.  Within the removal of just half of her amalgams the tongue cancer began to shrink. 

      I know I have an issue in my jaw (that neither the dentist nor the hospital seems able to see).  I have a bit of gum exposed between my two upper left back teeth that doesn't heal, and what comes out when I clean my teeth tastes like poison.  Because it is in a hole in my jaw between my teeth and in the gum, the x-ray doesn't seem to be able to see it.  I have a wisdom tooth there that sits at an angle pushing against that back tooth and the gap between my two back teeth which was quite large, has closed right up, so I have a job keeping it clean.  I will probably have to have the back tooth removed,  it's full of mercury anyway.

      There is almost certainly a low level infection going on in there.  The body treats any foreign body like a splinter.  It occurs to me that the fact that the worms go around my left eye could also be linked.  The nerve meridians are connected (my uncle developed a permanent eye twitch one side after going to the dentist years ago).  In Chinese medicine, the teeth are all connected to different organs in the body too.  Interestingly, the area I am having problems with in my mouth is connected to the liver and pancreas.....

      Could the rise in Diabetes be connected to the increase in more invasive modern dentistry.....?

      Several European countries are in the process of or have already banned amalgam use.

      I had dental treatment from quite a young age.  If only I (and my parents) had known that my tooth decay could have been prevented and even healed with nutrition (look up Rami Nagel's book Healing Tooth Decay, and a partial copy of Nutrition And Physical Degeneration by Weston A Price can be found online too), I might just not be in the situation I am in now.

      I was always quite proud that I've got to 57 without any false teeth, but most of my teeth are false of course.  They are made of mercury......

    • msmel
      msmel frustrated61

      Posted

      i read a precaution somewhere to make sure the DE earth doesn't get into your eyes as it causes dry eyes, and it is important not to breathe it into your lungs as it contains silica which may harm them.  the silica is supposed to cut into worm skin so kill them off... but i think this is only if they remain in your intestines.  wear goggles and a mask when preparing the DE.  hope this helps.
    • msmel
      msmel nitropilot

      Posted

      mix chicken eggs with this medication as they seem to love them.  what is bentonute clay?  i've also heard of using hot peppers and alcohol/sleeping tabs then purge.
    • CydneyRN
      CydneyRN frustrated61

      Posted

      Hey there! I'm in US, too. Last May I started having ankle/leg swelling....1st symptom. Nurse Practitioner put me on Lasix, which is a diuretic. This went on several months, then symptom number 2. Severe pain in all joints. Now I already am on large amounts of pain killers because I have a disease called Neurofibromitosis 2, which causes spinal and brain tumors, of which I have 3. But my meds did not touch this new pain. Back to doc, where they add Mobic (nsaid). It did nothing, so they did blood work. By now, several months later, I have 2 new symptoms, stomach swelling and severe shortness of breath. Which were both scaring me to death. In between all of this, I had a stool that I saw worms in.I'm an RN, I know what I saw. Nurse Pract would not write me anything without a stool sample. Ugh. So I go home and get stool sample and take it to lab. 2 weeks later, she sends me to GI doc. They want to do colonoscopy and endoscopy. I say fine but would u write me something for worms? She says she'll check results of sample and call me back. Next day she calls me and says nothing in stool sample, which I've read is very common, but hallelujah! She wrote me a script for ivermectin. I took it 2 days ago, so no idea how it will work or even how long it takes, none of literature I've found tells you the time frame. So, if the shortness of breath isn't caused by this then I now have a heart issue, so doc is sending me to Cardio. And she says swelling and lab values that suggest rheumatoid arthritis, are not a part of this, so I'm seeing a Rheumatologist also. I just pray they're wrong and the meds make it all go away. We shall see. Not sure this helps, except my doc wrote me the worm meds just 3 months after I saw them. Which from what I've read, is awesome! I sure hope meds get rid of the little buggers. It's creepy knowing that you have something creeping. Good luck all!
    • nichole34523
      nichole34523 frustrated61

      Posted

      We have to have the same thing I have been in misery for the last three years and shootings please tell me what this is and what ask I can do to get rid of them, I have tried bathing in every chemical possible and still have the crawling sinsationd an no doctor to help me,please tell me all I can do to be rif of this problem
    • dave33843
      dave33843 nichole34523

      Posted

      Forget topical treatments as they only treat the skin and not the underlying condition. Un fortunately the only help is Herbs, as you quite correctly state nothing topical works! Try Capsules of Green Pumpkin seeds, Bromelain (pineapple) any pineapple helps eg. canned, fresh and Juice fresh & UHT. Caps of Black walnut hulls and nuts, Garlic tabs, Green Papaya seed hulls, Papaya has an enzyme called Papain and this is extremely good at treating these jiggers! Wormwood caps. try all of these at once not one at a time then you can cut them out one at a time to find the ones that suit you. Take them at night just before bed and if you wake in the night take a cap of Bromelain to see you through the rest of the night. All of these herbs are natural but follow indications do not overdose yourself but try to get a full picture of the time they are most effective. Good luck Keep in touch.

    • kristopherOU812
      kristopherOU812 ali63625

      Posted

      I have been researching this very topic for several years. I am curious to know if you have anything further to share on the topic of root canals and the effects of such on our health.
    • barbara98940
      barbara98940 dave33843

      Posted

      My symptoms suggest I've got the parasite blastocystis hominis. I've tried the natural parasite detox of clove, wormwood, black walnut hull, however after trying it twice daily for a week, followed by a month of only taking it twice one day a week, then twice daily for two weeks I've now stopped it. I started getting symptoms of tight chest/difficulty breathing when running and high urea in urine (side effects of one of the ingredients). Luckily urea caught early when only just beyond the upper range and second blood test a week later after stopping detox was back in range. So looks like no permanent damage done, thankfully. So did it help? Possibly. My Ferritin levels went down (Ferritin is an indication of tissue inflammation). It's difficult to say whether this improvement was due to the parasite detox, or whether it was the very restrictive diet I was following (no grains or sugar), or both.

    • patti7
      patti7 Whisper2003

      Posted

      Did this combo of cayenne, garlic horseradish, thyme & wormwood work for you? Are the parasites gone?

      I have spent over $1000 using herbal natural de wormers...from Well of Life (a 3 pack herbal protocol) for over 3 months, Microbe formulas 3 pack herbal protocol as well and Dr.Clark's wormwood, black walnut hulls, garlic, cloves etc...I still am in pain and have these parasites. Prob mainly tapeworm and possible liver flukes and hookworms. I have had some die-off but they seem to come back. Probably after laying eggs during the full moon. I have done the full moon cleanse also. Just tired and fatigued of trying to get my life back.

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