Doctor experiences

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I was diagnosed around April this year.  Looking back I can see I made some errors, but I also think my Gynecologist failed to impress upon me the gravity of this auto immune condition.  Only now in October can I see the results of this...some of my labia has fused! and quite honestly I do blame myself, but I also had no idea what I was dealing with...anyway, I thought I would ask other people to share their experiences of their doctor and their treatment....

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    I have had this disease for a least two years.  I have had my vagina opened up twice. The doctor will no longer reopen because he sees no use in it!  He says if we ever get it under control he mau have to rebuild that area totally. I have gone to many doctors and then they send me to more!  My current Derm. Is doing some different meds but it is still just as bad!  I have it in my mouth, arms, under arms, my breast, legs and my entire vagina area.  What I am afraid of is it feels like I am breaking thru something when I have to urinate.  I am terrified it is trying to close me there now. The doctor said my vagina is like a brick wall and sees no help at all.  How long do I wait and whom do I see before I cannot urinate?  This disease is eating me up and every doctor I go to kind of throws their hands up in the air and sends me else where.  I'm trying to work a little at a call center but I think sitting is making the area worse. I have teeth work that needs to be done but the dentist said he cannot do anything until my mouth heals a bit.  And that sure is not happening!  They can't even clean my teeth because it hurts and bleeds sooo much!  Life is no fun at all with this disease.  I wish I could talk with someone in my area that has this so we could compare things. But not a lot of people have this so I type to ya'll!  Thank heavens this site is here. It helps me so much to see and hear from everyone!  Thanks for all the advise and concern foe me!  Charlotte
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      Charlotte !! This cite is global,  where are you?   It shocks me that a

      doctor could just throw his hands in the air and say that's it!  You need

      constant and reliable care.  You are right, that life is no fun with this

      disease,, it limits and prohibits many activities.  However, don't give

      up...there is some kind of help out there.  You must find a large

      medical centre.  All of us on this cite have stories and much support for each other.

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      Charlotte, I am sorry you are having such a rough time, it sounds like you have this condition at its worst!  

      What I have realized through being ill myself, is that some doctors simply don't know what to do next, they are human, and therefore some are better than others at what they do, and it sounds to me like you need to get another doctor on board, another opinion, especially as  you have only had this disease for two years...it has progressed rapidly, I am not sure whether that is the norm, but it seems to be very aggressive.  

      I am going to suggest you start looking for a Homeopathy doctor, not as an alternative, but I see no reason why you cannot try that in conjunction with a traditional doctor....but really I am thinking more for your oral lichen planus than anything else...

      I just wanted to mention my view regarding Candida again, I strongly believe that when you have Candida  it opens the door for problems to arise within the lichen planus family.

       Signs of candida can often be..

      dark rings under the eyes,

      fatigue

      swollen ankles

      Brain fog

      vaginal and oral thrush

      itchy eyes

      digestive issue, bloating, constipation, or even diarrhea

      mood swings

      urinary tract infections

      allergies, often sensitive to strong perfumes, detergents

      sugar cravings

      skin rashes

      Best to you.

        

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      Hi Charlotte,

      Lichen Planus and Lichen Sclerosus are definately not fun and life altering for sure.  My dentist noticed my Lichen Planus a while ago and suggested to use a special toothpaste.  However, I opted for brushing my teeth with baking soda.  The next visit to the dentist told me that the Lichen Planus had simmered down.  That was encouraging.  They told me to keep doing what I was doing.  I also have stopped eating spicy food; going to the East Indian restaurant was torture. 

      My Lichen Sclerosus turned vicious.  Labia closed fast till that last little pin hole through which the urine needed to flow.  Spending an easy half hour in the bathroom to empty my blatter.  Via family doctor, who contacted my gyna, I landed on the urgent list to have a dilating procedure done, from which I'm still recovering.  (When one stands with one's back against the wall, you run out of options. )  While all needed time and care to heal, I was thinking about possible infection.  So I used an old method my mother used to use - rinsing with a bit of baking soda in the warm water that I spray the area with after each bathroom visit.  

      To my amazement, the LS started to go 'on retreat'.  At first just slowed down. And now, bit by bit fusing starts to 'melt', I have no other way to describe this.  Together with the spray bottle, I also take a warm bath with one third of a cup of baking soda added.  The skin diseases on hands and feet also simmer down.  Not gone, but at least it does not get any worse.  

      Now - cleaning the mouth and teeth with baking soda will lower the pH level in your mouth.  Something I learned just recently.  At present I'm still studying as to why this could be important for a person with these nasty skin diseases.  

      In the meantime I hope that the above may help 'compare' with what you are trying to cope with.  Are you cutting out foods like sugar, caffeine, alcohol and also gluten free?  Doing this has somehow helped lighten the load for me.  Especially sugar seems to trigger the LS that always will be there, though in the background at present.  And I'm pampering the area with loads of coconut oil.  Stings a bit most times, but looks like it helps the skin.  

      I would encourage you to see a good gynaecologist.  With the accent on GOOD!!!  They are around.  

       

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      Hi Charlotte, l feel so sorry for your terrible sitution .l hope you can find a docter who knows more about ths disease l think in your place l would go to A&E and beg ! you have nothing to lose. You are not alone there is some good advice and loads of support on this sight. Wish l could help you more.
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      Hanny, how terrible for you..I cannot imagine how you must have felt..

      It does appear that baking soda is instrumental in helping some people.  With that in mind I think I might try an experiment.   I'm thinking of mixing 1 tsp of BS with coconut oil and applying it before bed, I have a very small amount of fusing just on the top right hand side of my labia minora, which has fused into my labia majora.   

      What are peoples thoughts on that, would it sting too much, or is it just a bad idea?

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      I have decided to wait until I get this Candida problem I have under control, nothings working yet.. I have eaten a VERY strict candida diet for two weeks, taken a Diflucan, and a Nystatin for oral thrush and it just wont go...I know in my case its because my immune system is weak....I'm on Mesalamine meds for U Colitis.  Today I have been looking at Apple cider vinegar as a natural alternative.  Once I have this under control I will definately give it a try, I am sure others probably will too.
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      I just wonder if the baking soda would do anything when it's not dissolved in water. I suspect it will simply be inert in oil. Probably no harm in trying.

      I had some fusing in my late thirties that let go once I resumed sex. The fusing I have now is definitely irreversible. There's no seam any more.

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      Im going to hold off trying it until I get my Candida under control I think.
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      Actually I think I'm going to wait until I have my candida problem under control.
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      LS is LS of course.  Never a garantee of anything.  But for now the upper part, clitoris area and further, is showing a seam again.  Keep your fingers crossed.
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      Hanny that is so encouragng.  I too am using baking soda and one side of

      the labia minora has appeared.  It almost looks like the otherside is

      starting to let go but I can be sure  yet  The clit. was the first thing to

      disappear so it must be buried quite deep.  I don't know  if will ever

      have it again. I  have stopped itching since everything fused. 

      I itched for over years without a break.  It never went into

      "remission" n

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      All of us don't know for sure.  A glimmer of hope I see,  and no idea where it will lead to.  Hang in there Sheila.  Together we may win somehow.
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      I took a picture today after my baking soda bath, or I wouldn't believe it myself either.  There is definately a new line, where there was solid nothing before.  (have pictures of that stage as well)  Will it continue?  We'll have to wait and see.  There is of course a lot to be desired, the fusing is/was severe.  At least my spirits are cautiously up.  And I keep asking questions - Is it the baking soda?  Is it the combination of coconut oil and baking soda?  Or has the LS simply decided to work itself into reverse for the time being?  

      I also have been drinking lots of fluid - water, licorice tea.  Avoiding sugary drinks and carbonated drinks.  Have also been strict with the food intake.  No food, only drink after eight in the evening till the next morning, something I have experienced as good for the whole system.   Plus I take my rest and try to avoid stress, doing things I absolutely enjoy - like working in my studio, or working in the yard.   (After all, I have a good excuse - recovering from a hospital procedure) (ha)

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      Well, your fusing is so fresh, it seems reasonable that it might reverse given the right conditions. Here's hoping for more opening!
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      Hanny..That sounds very promising, is your fusing quite recent then?  How old are you if you dont mind my asking?  Maybe the BS in conjunction with the coconut oil has really worked its magic for you, can you continue monitoring this as its very interesting and could be important for many others.   I have been using coconut oil, but I am waiting for Emu oil to arrive as I have read some good reports on that.  

      Are you an artist, you mentioned a studio? (smile)

      Katie

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      Thanks for the good wishes, Morrell.  I'm still studying further.

      Guppy, my age is 64.  Have LS probably for much longer than it was diagnosed,  official diagnoses approximately a little over a year ago.  And as Morrell mentioned, a big part of the fusing happened almost overnight.  Very viscious form of LS.  

      Meanwhile I have set aside the Emu oil for now.  In spite of the stinging of the coconut oil, I prefer it's effect.  Due to dilation process in the hospital, now approx two weeks ago, or is this the third week already,  I started to use those things that could possibly prevent infection.  Baking soda and coconut oil are the things I am using the most.  A tiny bit of clob for the maintenance at present, since LS is 'on retreat' at the moment.  

      There is more I'm finding out, but cannot put that in words yet.  I certainly will express myself as best I can later when I understand it myself, so all can profit from the findings.  

      I told my doctor today to tell all his LS patients about the baking soda and coconut oil, for starters.  If nothing else, it is feeling much better 'down there' with these ingredients.  

      I also find that the dilation procedure that I'm having to keep doing myself now,is very benefitial.  

      And my time in the studio, so good for the soul.  I love to paint and draw, so yes, I am an artist. 

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      Hanny, Thanks for sharing all this, its very helpful! Keep us all posted as and when you can.

      I'm an artist too!.... and your right it is good for the soul!

      Katie

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      Coconut oil is what I am using at the moment, it seems good actually, I just wanted to have the Emu oil as well to see how that fairs.

      Am I correct in thinking that whatever people are using, it has to be applied regularly throughout the day..When I was first diagnosed I never put anything on down there, so I have a feeling that this dryness contributed to the fusing..

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      I do put 'something on' after every bathroom visit and after every baking soda rinse.  Call me obsessed.
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      The weird thing is the 'dryness' is really more like stickiness and oil keeps things from sticking together. Two raw surfaces sort of heal together in an undesirable way. The more flared up you are, the more frequently you need to apply the oil. I'm pretty calm down there now, so I put it on at bedtime, after a shower and after using wet toilet paper after a loose BM.
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      I was using Lube! for ages, and only sometimes, now I am of course taking more care.

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