Does anyone have experience using Slippery Elm for diverticular pain?
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I was just diagnosed with diverticulosis and with my doctor's knowledge have been using Slippery Elm for a week. It is working, but I have questions about it. In particular, I'd like to know if it's better to take it before a meal or after, and when I should take a fiber supplement, and other medications in conjunction with it.
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CauliColon carol63431
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I suggest you read the Wikipedia article on this stuff. The action appears to be to create a gloopy layer on the gut lining, but it also implies that there may be some sedative effect to the surface of the lining. If this is true then it might explain why it might possibly relieve discomfort - but - if the gut is anaesthetised, surely the peristaltic action that should move matter through will also be further reduced? That in turn must make the gut less motile and the whole diverticular situation is worsened, long-term?
Whilst no doubt a lot of important drugs are based on 'natural' plant extracts - so is methanol! (Methanol is a lethal neurotoxin in only small volumes!).
So, the 'slippery' bit sounds fine - much like the action of lactulose, maybe? - but its the anesthetic bit that aims to relieve the pain (possibly) but might be counterproductive if it stops the gut from passing stuff through.... chicken-and-egg ..... Catch-22? :-(
Cheers,
Pete.
carol63431
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I have, that said, noticed a difference in my bowels. I've had a lot of gas, but it took me a while to twig to the fact that I shouldn't be eating broccoli. Gas aside, they do seem to be moving more slowly, but the results are good. I think my problem is in figuring out what to eat and when, and I got some information on that so now I can start taking a fiber supplement (is that recommended for diverticulosis?) and a probiotic (which jacquie (sp?) has had success with). There was a list of foods that was mentioned somewhere in this foroum, among reams of other back and forthing. Is there a way I could get ahold of that list?
I'm going to give it a little bit more time If you're interested in reading more about it, I did manage to jot down some references
As for "gloopy" - it's slimey (ick) and blobby, but it doesn't taste bad and goes right down, and things do come out the other end. Give it a try
Cheers back at you,
Carol
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Emis_Moderator carol63431
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If you mean the DIVI DINERS discussion it is here:
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/divi-diners-246516
If you go to the top of this page and click "Diverticula" in the breadcrumb you will see the full list of discussions.
Regards,
Alan
carol63431
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I thought I'd have to wade through lots of discussions, but your directions got me to the list quickly.
Carol
kieran1952 carol63431
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iv just started using Slippery Elm the last two day and I have not felt so good for a long time
I know its early days.
I have no pain in the Colon no problems going to the toilet and no bloating
im still very careful about
what I eat
even my GP checked it on the Net and she said there was no reason not to use it
with the medication I'm on
I would suggest anyone thinking of using it to check with their GP first
K
gloria82922 kieran1952
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carol63431
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It's good to hear that Slippery Elm is working for you, and that your GP cleared you to take it. I've had to stop taking it because I have to have some allergy testing and the allergist doesn't know what the chemical makeup of SE is. Fortunately I'm not in a lot of pain, but I'm having discomfort, so I'm going with the really bland diet for a while (5 days til I have the testing).
One thing I thought of tonight is how important it is to chew. The digestion process starts in the mouth. I never think of that and because I'm hungry, or thinking of things, I think I sort of half chew my food. I'm going to try to be more aware now, maybe it could make a difference.
Why I thought of that is, I asked my GP for a list of foods and she gave me one that she got off a popular medical website. The subject was how diverticulosis is treated, and the first thing one the list is to avoid constipation. Then there was a really brief list of foods (broad categories with no mention of removing the skin) - fruits, vegetables, beans, and whole grains/high in fiber. Yikes! Maybe the difference in the two diets is "diverticulosis" vs "diverticulitis". Also on the list is (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to quote): plenty of fluids so urine is light yellow or clear, exercise, fiber supplement (starting with a small dose). Now beans?? Doesn't sound like they mean string beans, but the next paragraph says (again) that treatment involves adding fiber, and not eating foods that cause gas, pain, or other symptoms. What's gassier than beans, other than broccoli maybe?
I think it's a learning process. Because we are all different each one of us has to find our own way, and discussions like this make us aware of options.
Be well,
Carol
vickie57 carol63431
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gloria82922
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Come on now I can't be the only one that this has happened to! Nobody else has any stomach pain after taking slippery elm!
maureen_65564 gloria82922
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Not me either. I've had good results with no side effects from slippery elm! I haven't ran across anyone but you and my daughter so far with having trouble with it! My daughter has onion, Avacado and banana allergies! We believe it's an allergic reaction.Yoy may very well be doing the same thing!
gloria82922 carol63431
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Do you have any stomach pain using sleepy elm.? I took 2 and it made my stomach hurt. Do you use powder or capsule. I used somebody suggestion of opening two capsules in water and drinking it that was a big mistake. I don't think you are suppose to eat the herbs that way.