Does pip refusal affect my ESA

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I've just been refused pip,does anyone know if this will affect my ESA? I'm in the support group and am worried I'll have my money stopped! I'm asking for a MR and if that fails I'll go to tribunal but my main worry at the moment is will I still receive my ESA!

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    Hi,

    I'm not sure i did answer that question. The problem is when other people post questions on someone elses thread it causes confusion for the original poster, you in this case. I may well have missed the question.

    It won't affect your ESA unless you were claiming the Severe disability Premium (SDP) I can't remember if this PIP was a review of an existing award or a transfer from DLA?

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      Yes me too! It's because people very often don't start their own threads. This is why i often advice people to start their own post because it's save a huge amount of confusion.

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      Which is the severe disability premium? I get an extra amount added to my ESA for disability is that the sdp? If so how can they take that away from me?
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      My pip claim was a new claim,I really hope it doesn't affect my ESA as that truly is a lifeline

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      The premium added to your ESA is not SDP. It's the premium added on when you're claim Income related ESA and in the Support Group.

      PIP and ESA are 2 totally different benefits and being refused PIP will NOT affect your ESA. ESA is for those with a limited capability for work. People isn't about not being able to work and people claim that and work. Therefore totally different benefits.

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      The main criteria to claiming SDP (amongest other things) is a PIP daily living award/ DLA mid/high rate care or AA. You don't have any of those awards so won't be entitled to SDP.

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      Thanks Denise I checked it out after reading your reply and realised I was nothing to worry about,thank you for all the helpful information you've given me(along with Alexandria!) regarding my Pip queries.

      Now it's all about sorting my MR out.

      I never said but my claim for pip has been based on me being epileptic,severe nerve damage to left arm and head(I've had 2 severe brain haemorrhages!)and also post thrombotic syndrome in my left leg! Which is why I've been so surprised and angry by the report the assessor submitted,I mean she was supposed to go off my bad days which are most days because I have on average 2 seizures a week which after 1 seizure I'm done for about 4 days,so I feel the whole process of claiming pip is flawed.Hopefully when I put my MR in the person looking at it will have a brain lol! Then with the tribunal I'll make sure I'm well prepared,again thanks for all your help.

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      It's absolutely disgusting that with your health and incapacity your were knocked back, I personally would amass all the information you originally sent in and send it all again with the MR asking politely that the decision maker please look at these again as you do not believe they were taken into account the first time round, remember politely LOL

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      Also just so that you're aware PIP isn't about your bad days, and they don't go off your bad days like you said.

      PIP is about how you're affected 50% of the time. There's also another criteria to PIP, and that is if you can't do something regularly, reliably, without pain and discomfort then you're classed as not being able to do it at all.

      Keep that MR letter as straight to the point as you possibly can. I know that will be hard not to point out all the lies and make that letter extremely long but that's not what they're looking for. They will be looking for what you disagree with and why and where you think you should have scored those points. Go through that PIP report descriptor by descriptor. Good luck!

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      I have heard that so many times, people say I have to put my worst case scenario down, like I have one day I can't get out of bed so I can claim, I tell them that that's rubbish and that means everyone could claim it, I have loads of days I don't want to get out of bed LOL

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      Indeed. I can't tell you the amount of times i've seen people advising others to make sure you tell them your worst possible day... YIKES!!! Is always my reaction to that one. When a person fills outs their PIP forms as if its their worst day and they go for their assessment and it's one of their "better" days. The HCP is going to think "well if that's their worst day then they can't be as bad as they're making them selves out to be" Ticking all the zero points boxes in the process. Decision letter arrives....PIP refused as zero points scored.

      Moral of this story, never ever fill out a PIP form based on your worst day. Tell the truth, if you have good days, tell them. Tell them all of your days because 50% of them is what's counted and not your worst one. It really does help to have some understanding of what PIP is all about because without it..... the worst can happen.

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      That's exactly it, if you let them perceive you as just about bed ridden and you are even able to walk inside the door your 100% better than your forms are implying so your worst day you can appear great 😓😓

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