Does PT help at all?
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I'm new to this forum and am sure this question has been asked before, but does PT help or is it a waste of time? I've done 8 sessions (while also diligently performing the exercises at home) and there's been no difference. Does this just have to run its course? My FS stemmed from an arm injury. How long should I expect it to last? It's so frustrating that I cannot play catch with my kids, among other things.
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Chocolatebabz jill1023
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lauren_1964 jill1023
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I have found that physio usually agrivates my shoulder a gentle massage by a physio is good but they tend to want to do rough massage .
But ive had acupuncture. Cortisone injections.pyhsio.and hydradialation and they have all seemed to make it worse so i personally say let it run its course but every one seems to be different.
I now have a frozen left shoulder and bursitis in my right that i had injections in both a week ago and have been in worse pain ever since and now have a lot less movement in my right shoulder .
I have been working on lighter duties up to about 4 weeks ago and my good shoulder was deteriorating really quickly while stil trying to work then i was to the point of being so stressed and not much sleep ect .
I got a bad cold and just so run down now you have to really try to take care of yourself during the process as if your employed your employer and work cover will try to keep you doing too much and people say yeh but its only your shoulder but the constant pain and lack off sleep catch up to you after a while .
I have had my frozen shoulder for 10 months now and work cover a trying to push the specialist to operate but i am hesitant as i have a heart condition.
So dont let people push you around and if your paying for physio then make sure your getting one that helps not hurts you.
As if its a work cover physio they just try to hurry you back to work and can cause a lot more damage so be careful.
And it can take upto 2 years to come good depending on life factors of age ect.
But try not to let it get you down there are lots of people in the same boat.
Lauren
madiniah33615 lauren_1964
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terry74787 jill1023
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maria58274 jill1023
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Sorry to be contraversial - no offence meant to those who gave the opposite advice but I just had to point out that this view is not universally accepted. Do some research, read through other posts on here and use your own judgement. I know we're all different and what works for one, does not necessarily work for someone else but painful physiotherapy is not the only way forward. What has worked for me is hydrodilatation and gentle (non-painful) excercising. After about 14 months, I am almost back to normal, have about 80% plus of my movement back and have been without pain for 6 months.
Good luck Jill - try to remember it will get better in time.
maria58274
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https://patient.info/forums/discuss/orthopedic-surgeon-said-do-not-do-physical-therapy-in-painful-stage-makes-worse--510090
penny54223 maria58274
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maria58274 penny54223
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lisa15996 jill1023
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KathleenC jill1023
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I have had 7 sessions of it and I don't think it's helping me either.
I am more sore and painful after it.
It seems like so much pain to move a millimeter more.
I am wondering if just doing light exercises to keep it moving is good enough...
I too am wondering if letting it take its course with painkillers and a little movement is best..
madiniah33615 KathleenC
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Wait till after ur painful stage b4 u start PT again. .PT is more fore stretching ur tendons for ROM ..Hopefully then it will benefit u..All the best.
LessrTuberosity jill1023
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Keep the faith! I had many crying sessions over the last 10 weeks but i believe im turning the corner with this dedicated rehab schedule
penny54223 jill1023
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jill1023
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I had not even heard of the term "frozen shoulder" until I was diagnosed with it. I certainly feel for everyone else going through this!
FSconversations jill1023
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You can tell by the passion on this thread that different things work for different people. I'm in the "gentle physio" camp, only because I tried a different therapist in the "no pain no gain" camp & I'm sure it set me back some weeks because my shoulder wanted to heal, not have yet more rips & tears to cope with. The best thing I did for myself was to quit.
I started exercises again some months later when I could feel the ROM returning - thawing! And I'm in physio again for my second FS - so far so good. Here is an insightful journal article about this that may be helpful to your physiotherapist - it was to mine. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3096148/
There are lots of good tips on this forum to help you through. Use FS as a teachable moment with your kids in the meantime. You can't play catch now, but you will again one day!
Liane
frozen_stiff FSconversations
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FSconversations frozen_stiff
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Liane
frozen_stiff FSconversations
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Hi meant to reply sooner but here we are now. Google "Frozen Shoulder unraveling the enigma, T D Bunker". Let's know what you think.
FSconversations frozen_stiff
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Hi Frozen Stiff - thank you. Bunker says he can nail down 'the cause' as appearing to be a fibrosis, a collagen contracture. It seems true that's the condition; however, it's not the cause - unless I missed it, he doesn't say what initiates this collagen matrix, which, to me, would be the cause. (The closest he comes is a 60% genetic correlation from what he himself describes as a small study.) I'm glad he implies surgery is indicated only for those who did not respond to conservative treatment. In his one FS group though, he went ahead and did arthroscopies at least once on all of them (sounds like whether or not just an MUA would have sufficed. That's sort of like saying all term pregnancies can be successfully treated by C-section.) What's important is that he notes that our generation is one step closer to understanding FS. This paper was written almost two decades ago, and I hope the research like this for true FS sufferers will continue! New products like Xiaflex could well be on the right track that way. Thanks again, Liane
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