Does this sound like someone with bipolar?

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I first became different from everyone when I was at primary school. I was about 7 or 8 and really needed to use the toilet in assembly and thought that the teachers wouldn’t let me go and very nearly had an accident. Ever since then I’ve had this phobia that I might have an accident in public and have always avoided situations without toilets and nearly always had panic attacks in those situations. That has cause a lot of bother in my life and has really restricted what I’ve been able to do in life too – no car journeys, holidays, even walking down a street with no toilet along it. I saw a therapist at 18 but he was an amateur and kept messing up and I got annoyed and stopped going.

I failed my A-Levels because I lost motivation and when I did eventually get into university I failed the first year because of a bit of a breakdown and then failed the second year for basically the same reason. I go through a phase of having no motivation at all and a real empty sort of depression where I feel unmotivated, unworthy and I have no interest in anything or anybody and become quite reclusive. My attendance was bad at Uni. mainly because I had a phobia of being in a lecture and needing the toilet and not being able to go and once I missed one I missed the whole lot and sunk right down.

It was my first year of Uni. that I became a bit obsessed with a girl. She wasn’t interested in me but I couldn’t take no for an answer and all I could think about was this girl. It went on for a month or two and became quite annoying for some people, mainly her. When I wasn’t depressed about it I thought it was humorous and used to make jokes about it and didn’t take the thing seriously at all. One day I had a sort of revelation and decided to turn my life around and made my sleeping patterns return to normal, stopped drinking so much, became more sociable, completely ignored the girl (I never did forget her) and was able to exist without her again. I took a great interest in my guitar and went to the gym. I got a girlfriend and was happy for a bit.

I changed course and re-started the first year of Uni. again but soon became unmotivated, lost interest in the course, and went back into myself again. I still kept up a social life and still managed to hand in some very good piece of work, regularly achieving firsts and other good grades but it was a real struggle. I still played guitar but didn’t practice much at all. I did get a band together with the aim of singing (I’d never sung publicly in my life) and playing guitar (I couldn’t play that well). That idea failed due to no real genuinity in it.

I then worked for a boat company on the River Thames and life was great again. The social life was great and I was good at my job and seriously considered a career in that profession but was sacked after 6 months or so due to “laziness”. I’m very laid-back and mostly don’t talk to anyone I don’t think I have reason to. I got a name for being lazy and went along with it as a joke but it backfired. It was also this time that I discovered I failed my second year of university and the two combined sent me into the darkest depression of my life so far. The only thing keeping me going was a beautiful girlfriend who eventually had enough of a depressed and unmotivated boyfriend and left me too, compounding my depression.

I then got a job in an office and for 4 years was just a shadow. I took no interest girls other than thinking about nice ones as I masturbated as much as 5 times a day. I swung from not being remotely interested in my friends to meeting them and being the most conversive and entertaining person they’d ever met (in my eyes anyway), the life and soul as they say. 4 months ago I quit that job with no job to go to with enough savings to live for 4 months independently but nothing more. In those 4 months I haven’t even applied for one job. I haven’t even looked for a job. Now I have to move back in with my family. I don’t feel like I can do any job that exists out there but at the same time feel that I can do anything I want as long as I put my mind to it.

As I said before, I am quite laid-back, patient and good natured but I can experience these real big angry mood swings when things don’t go my way which has got me into trouble in the past. I’m rude to people and sometimes destroy things. For example I was having trouble a few days ago with the photocopier in the library that time and time again was jamming and taking more of my money and just walked out with credit in the machine and the job half-done as I came so close to smashing the thing up and verbally attacking the library assistant. Rudeness and dismissiveness really angers me too. Sometimes, mainly when I was young and in my teens, I have been violent to people then felt really bad about it after.

Another thing I do is suddenly become as if I have had a revelation and try to change my life around in one fell swoop, as they say. I make lists, try to give structure to my life, leave life-affirming quotes and messages for myself, write pages and pages of things to do and learn and really dive head-first into my hobbies like I’m going to become the greatest in the world at that thing (guitar, songwriting, speaking French or Dutch, becoming a genius, creating art, philosophy, learning etc) and do really well in these things until I lose interest, start to question it all (not suicidal, I’d never do that), and go back to staying in bed all day, not washing, not brushing my teeth, smoking weed, smoking tobacco, not wanting anything to do with my friends, being annoyed by their ways and attitudes and stupidity, masturbating and looking at porn.

When I’m on what I think is an up phase I think I’m great. I think I’m handsome and am better than everyone else and have more of a right to things than other people. I get caught up in a hobby and amaze myself at the dedication I give it and construct a great plan to become the best the world has ever seen at that hobby. I’m constantly looking out for things that might help me get to that level including spending money on books and things like that. I don’t go on massive shopping sprees that cost a fortune but always go to charity shops and buy 4 or 5 books that I think will get me to that level but never read them. I’ve got hundreds of books I’ll never read, even if I did have time. I’ve never had any money so that sort of spending spree is quite bad even though it might amount to only £10 or something similar. That moment has passed. I’m rarely interested in something when the moment’s passed. Quite often I get depressed from failing at one of my grand plans.

One of the worst things I do is try to reach such a high that it will eclipse that previous record. I got to the stage where I was smoking weed, drinking alcohol, sniffing poppers and masturbating over internet porn to get that high and was all I did night after night for weeks.

I’ve never got on well with alcohol. If I’m depressed it makes me more depressed and if I’m feeling good it makes me feel very good and I used to ring people in the middle of the night looking for conversation, until my list of friends diminished. The next day even if I’m not hung-over I feel rotten. I feel really guilty and cringe-worthy even if I haven’t done anything to be guilty or cringe-worthy about. I feel let down by my behaviour in a way. It’s a feeling I find hard to express. When I smoked that just made me feel lethargic, down, drained and sh*t. No-one I’ve spoke to will admit to feeling like that with smoking.

I’ve never felt inclined to commit suicide (I’ve thought about it rationally and rejected it as a viable solution) and my depression manifests itself more in amotivation than anything else. Having no motivation is the story of my life. I think because when I’m feeling good I no what’s its like to really feel alive and see how much opportunity there is in life. I’ve always been quite level-headed and intelligent so have rarely done anything foolish or burnt my bridges. I haven’t really spoken to a doctor about any of this and have only just really started reading into bipolar disorder. I don’t like doctors and see them as self-interested amateurs and my experience of them seems to back this up. I’ve used anti-depressants in the past for my anxiety but only for a week or two as they interfered to much with my all-important sex-life by making me unable to orgasm.

Socially I’ve never really been able to keep up. No sooner to I meet people and get a good crowd of friends but I start rejecting them and either looking elsewhere for more stimulating interaction or sink into myself. Being up and down shares similarities with each other for me. When I’m down I don’t want to interact with people and when I’m up I can’t be bothered with them. They don’t do enough for me. When I’m down I masturbate a lot. When I’m up I masturbate a lot. When I’m up and down I’m very insular and mainly exist within.

I’m always being told I’m extremely intelligent and I agree. They tell me I should be doing more than I do and I’m holding myself back but that makes me feel bad because I know that but there’s nothing I can do about it. I’ve tried and failed many times. I can’t hold educational course down and really abhor authority. I’m not shy and I’m not outgoing. I seem to be both depending on how I feel that day. I’ve never really understood how you can be one and not the other all your life.

Another thing is I’m really into ideas (History of Ideas and Philosophy was my Uni. course) and once I get started on a subject I know about (quite a few) I can talk for hours but most of the time I think people aren’t worth wasting my time on so I seem rude and arrogant. I seem to have a head-full of ideas, solutions and explanations that I need to do something with them.

I started myself on St John’s Wort a few weeks ago and the same day I started I started feeling much better and quite high and determined. Since then I’ve been studying song-writing, sight-reading and playing guitar like its going out of fashion and have been a lot more sociable and positive. All I want to do is succeed and create something to be proud of. My appetite has basically vanished or at least is well bellow the point when I’m down and eat too much and put on weight.

So hopefully you’ve made it through all that. Its long but I’ve had some beers, I’m feeling good and its 3 in the morning and I want to get it all down while I feel like I can. The basic question is – does this sound like someone who has bipolar disorder or someone with long-term depression or what? Or am I looking too much into it after having read about bipolar disorder? Maybe I’ve subconsciously made it sound more like its bipolar than it is. Also has anyone else experienced similar things to what I’ve just written about? If you want to reply to this message please feel free to do so or email me at gig88888 hotmail com

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    That is exactly what is wrong - your last line Quote: 'I truly do not know what I want).'

    If you don't know, then how can someone else know and help you?

    It is you Katy that keeps posting over and over again asking for help, then make comments when nobody replies.

    All I am saying is that everyone has tried to help you but none of that help has worked.

    There is only so much help & support that can be offered to one person. Your posts (if you read back for the last 12 months) are the same thing over and over again.

    I have asked you before, what do you think will help you? You never did reply.

    As for sympathy or empathy, been there, got the t shirt etc. I have also been where you are now remember?

    So please don't tell me I am on a high horse or judging you. If you are going to posts asking for help or whatever then you have to be prepared to take the replies too - even if they aren't exactly what you want to hear.

    It's 5pm, where are you children now?

    Melbi x

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    Hi Melbi, first off, okay Id like to say sorry. But there you have an example of me not understanding or recognising the full picture.

    My children had friends over, They have now gone home and |I am making their dinner -why do you ask?

    Yes, you are right about me having posted over and over for the past 12 months, but in all honesty , while I am having a completely off day, please believe that I am better than what I was, and that is thanks to all the help I have been getting.

    My mum took everything in her stride today and thinks, i am right, she thinks there is something wrong woth me - but is not sure what it is. She says she will accompany me next time I go for help.

    Thank you Melbi, sorry I dint mean to upset you

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    Katy you didn't upset me at all.

    I get so flippin' frustrated with you at times but never angry and I don't get upset by your responses because for some reason I already know how you are going to react to a post. :shock:

    I just wish you would stop wallowing in the past, stop thinking you are hard done by and bloody well start seeing (no pun intended) what you have got rather than what you haven't got.

    I seriously think you would benefit from CBT. You turn everything into a negative and don't even realise when you are doing it.

    I used to do it too, until Hilary made me see just what I was doing. She helped me on my road to recovery with her comment about my negativity and will forever be in her debt. Even now when I think a negative thought, Hilary comes flashing into my mind and I am able to turn it around into a positive thought. CBT helped me learn how to do that!

    Now for goodness sake will you shut up about the same old things all the time. :oops:

    love

    Melbi x

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    :shock: :shock: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Just had some shocking news.

    yes Melbi, but I amnot wallowing in the past I am wallowing in the day> Everyday.

    Anyway, Ill have to go. This is a biggie!

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    :shock: :shock: This is a message for JB007 and Gigg- okay, I am sick of feeling like a wet blanket and decided , right eeoo, noone seems to be talking to me or telling me what is wrong with me. After talking with my mum I looked up the bipolar disorder at health.com, and it gave me a lot more useful information that helpe dme to understand the ways I have been feeling.

    Its all very well for an outsider to come in and basically sya give yourself a shake you are repaeating yoursel over and over, well yes, but if thats how your thoughts work that how your tunnel vison spins- if you knoww hat I mean?

    I have had some bad news today and want post it here for fear that those close to me may read it so cant sya whats happened, but it really has not helped, I dont feel like i walk around with a chip on my shouldder, but today yes, i was uncontrolable and was crying alll the way to work. But work was whatpieced me together, then howm againe to bang wallop more bad news then eatinng too much and sleeping most of the evening. I thik I just need to manage it myself, and I can If I have my work or omething that allows me to switch to a okay ( i can mange , just ) then I think I can manage my modds. It just makes home life a bit mrore exhausting because I want him to understand- I dont hink he ever will take the time out to, and of course that makes me worse, but the facts that I recognise the triggers , knowing them may help me to copping a bit better. i dont know Mmaybe I am , maybe I am not, but I just need to deal with my emotions better, and quite simply that is all i have to do.

    I cant believe that my CPN has not been back in touch ( fair do's , she has her amount to deal with and maybe something has come up, or maybe she is just not speaking because I refuse to go to my stress classes, They just did not cut the edge off for what I was feeling, I am sorry but I looked around and as far as I could see nobody else seemed to be curled in on themselves and shking iregularly) Thats not my drinking coz yes guilty Ive drank some , but not that nuch I am never going to tell a doc again that yes, I have ha da bottle of wine for the past god knows how many nights ...I know many folks who do and they are nto in the place I am in, And this is not a confession to having been dringking kie this of late. Anyway, I need to go, just thought Id tell you about that health .com site- it helped me today.

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    Do you know, posting here is not such a bad idea\"

    A) It has/is helping me.

    B) You can learn some from others- without it being too technical

    C) YOu can help others out by sharing the information.

    Well, my little girl was sent hime from school today , particularly unwll, she has a temperature, and all her glands under her chin are very swollen and her neck is a bit stiff.

    She had a parents review at the school. It turns out that she is a lovely little girl, wouldnt want to hurt a fly ( ah yes, because she knows what its like to hurt so bad) , but worryingly, and like I have saifd all along, she does not seem to a happy medium, she is either really upset or rea;ly happeee, so is this genetically linked.Or is she just 6 and I am panicing for no reason? At least, this time I will have me eyes open, and I will be their for her.

    Am I just super anxious, I just dont want her to be like me

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    Hey there TT,

    Here's some more links for you smile Think you should buy the book ( link3), its good, and it will help you more than this forum.

    centres.exeter.ac.uk/mood/pdf/Telegraph%20-%20Mindfulness.pdf

    ( paste it in, no ws)

    creativityatwork.com/articlesContent/Brain/amen-optimize-brain.html

    ( add three ws and a dot)

    amazon.co.uk/Change-Your-Brain-Life-Obsessiveness/dp/0812929985

    ( add three ws and a dot)

    I wonder if you read back through this whole thread whether there are any answer for you. I think for you dumping your head out here may have some value, but there may be better help as Melbi suggests with some good help also.

    I feel much of the struggle you're having is chemical and on top of that you have your past which you cant switch off, and the present which seems to be you stuck in a loop you cant break. One or three outside factors not helping ya too, from what you say.

    All your obessive repeating mad loops of thought, your \"wallowing\" and your mood changes are imo chemical and it seems you have no place to put that stuff, and there is lots of it for you. I think there probably will be stuff you do, and habits you have which feed that state. Whatever is \"different\" about you needs some better help to switch off the chatter which is making your life so crazy. The help would be a medication i feel and i aint no doctor, but you need to find a doc who knows who you are.

    This thread would help a doc get an understanding for many of your symptoms i feel. There may even be a doc reading it?

    Questions for you:

    How would you feel if you quit the wine for a month? Could u do it?

    Would dancing, running, swimming, walking be better than a stress class for you?

    What medication would level you off a little?

    Who is the best person to help you find the correct meds?

    Question for Gig

    Gig, how u doing my friend?

    JB smile

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    Wow! jB007, thats soomuch info for myallready stressed out, muitlified brain ! But interesting. I dont know- I have no idea where to begin! Where do i start! Ive reduced my wine intake and controlled that lately, but it does nto take much for me to go grrrr (give me more) I get so wound up b my family and my life situation (which regretably , made) Sorry that sounds incredibly bad...(I soooo love mychildren - you would not believe, but feel no one has ever loved me, evre, not in the same way) Though I worry, I aint wot I want to be for them Its true , i am not the mum I desire, or that they deserve.

    As for the wine, well, i will always drink some, as long as my sister contiues to blow ind down the phone and my partner feel the need to pick up( Personaaly I think they have a thing for each other) that make sme want to chuck, As it makes me feel used, and everything ive done useless. But then again as he states\"he finds me repulsuve' ( Thats not really helping) then comes home and expects everything to be hunky dorey :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :shock: When they were babies, i think I wore a blind mask or something!!! Anyway, relationships are never simple and I think I have not helped me ove the years by hiding. I am at a loss, but what was that you say? Ill recheck that message, at the mo I must go to bed and look after my Becca.

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    Hi , ( not been here in a while), My head is mangled now. I have no ne. I mean no one to turn to. Having problems with some things which I cant put on here as others may find it and that could be lethal. Sorry, thats a bit like crying someone asking you whats wrong , and replying \"Nothing\". Sorry, folks didnt mean it like that.

    Ive also gone mad with my cpn, she seems to think iam normal ( ithink) and she seem to think I am a time waister ( I think) as I drink. I feel demented now, and too scared to go back to anyone ( Ill just end up arguing with whoever) Thats me I just seem to always end up feeling lke a victim.....but am I really being bullied? I dont get it.

    Okay I am away now to write a letter. This will take hours. Wish me liuck. Ill need it.

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    Sounds like me... I have a beautiful everything, I'm energetic, can get along with anyone, but, I have this huge wall up and let no one in. First off no one ever wants in, no one really cares, or could ever understand. I'm so depressed. All i know how to do is runaway. I feel like I fit in no where, I've traveled and lived in 8 different states. I avoid people, and family. I have so much potenial, but all I want is to hide out on a island. I'm bipolor. I'm depressing. All i want to do is smoke high. I stay active, I walk every day, go to the beach, I wish I had someone to relate to and talk to but I dont think they exsiit and I push everyone away. I'm 21 and already lived to much life bad and good. Been on my own since 16. I got into acting and modeling after the past two years of bouncing from stae to state do sales and jobs here and there, living out of my Jeep with my dog. I'm just a lost soul, I just want to stop myself from falling in bigger and bigger holes. Some one save me

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