Does this sound like Vestibular Neuritis?
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Hello, this is my first time posting. I have a serious health issue, but the doctors haven't been able to pinpoint what it is. Basically, I've had six weeks of dizziness and unsteadiness. It sounds like Vestibular Neuritis, but please let me know what you think.
On June 9th I got some kind of stomach flu or food poisoning. I had severe vomiting and diarrhea. Other than a canker sore under my toungue, I was starting to feel better. I was exercising again and working again.
While walking across a bridge in the park on June 14th, I suddenly got a fear of heights. I felt the same sensation the next day while sitting at a traffic light, that happens to be on top of an overpass. I felt panicky.
As the week went on, I was getting panicky in the car every time I had to stop at a light. I had to look down at the sterring wheel because the cars criss-crossing in front of me was making me disoriented.
Then I began to get dizzy spells throughout the day, plus I felt a permanent unsteadyness 24 hours a day. A lot of times I had to concentrate hard to walk. My eyes were not going where I wanted them to go. Work really brought on the systems. I started missing days. I also had to have people drive me around to places. One time I had heart palpatations when there were a lot of people around me. Eventually I asked for a leave of absense.
On the 26th, a dizzy spell got so bad I had to go to the hospital. It was mainly disorientation, not like the room was spinning. I was still able to walk around the hopital, but very slowly, and had to concentrate hard to do it. MRI showed no tumors or stroke. They said it was a middle ear issue, perscribe some medicine and sent me on my way.
So far I've seen one ENT, but other appts are coming for nearologist and another ENT. My hearing test was perfect. The ENG/caloric test came out normal, which surprised me. He suggested I might have Mal de Debarquement Syndrome.
I became became imprisoned in my home, and I started to feel physically weak as the days went on. After learning about vestibular exercises on the Internet, I decided to start doing them on my own. They seem to have helped with my balance and with my eye-darting issues. I now go for very long walks. I am starting to drive again too. However, everything feels totatlly different than it did before this all began.
There were a couple of nights where my brain was doing odd things. I got hot flashes (even though I'm a guy) and heart palpatations in the middle of the night one time.
My persistent systems right now are:
-suceptible to dizziness when on the computer, watching TV, doing quick head turns, being inside stores
-high-pitch ringing in my left ear
-fullness in my right ears that comes and goes, almost like there is fluid in them
-harder to concentrate
-unsteadiness as I move. Sometimes it's a "bobble"; othertimes it's like I'm leaning in one direction or another. Sometimes it's almost normal.
-sensitivity to sound, like the bath water running
-misidentification of sounds. I sometimes think the garbage truck is outside, only to figure out it's our air conditioner.
Let me know what you think. I would like to begin living a normal life again: return to work, use a computer and watch TV normally, be able to drive long distances without worry. I'm thinking it's VN, but I did not have an "acute" spinning phase, plus the caloric test was normal. The canker sore may be relevant because I've read that the herpes virus can attack the nerve.
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jonAustralia Kevin5555
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Kevin5555
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Otologist-"You have had two hearing tests that are perfect, plus that ENG test that was normal. This effectively rules out an inner ear problem. I'll refer you to John G Oas, neuro-otologist."
Neurologist-"I see nothing that would justify an MS test. Your MRI was pretty clean. Get another one down of the brain in six months. I'll refer you to my collegue, John G Oas, neuro-otologist. He works with patients like you and even has a spinning chair with barf bags."
The average wait time to see him is four months, but the neuro did send him an email to see if they can take me sooner.
Meanwhile, my symptoms have been back for a week now; today was particularly hard since I've had dizzy and headache combined, and had to go to both appointments, and had to work a four-hour shift on the laptop. Overall, it isn't as bad when it was at its worse in June-July, but still the fact it got better and then worse again makes it harder to hope for a full recovery.
Oh yeah, the olologist did say this to me. "When I get people with your symtoms, and we can't effectively diagnose what it is, I tell them that whatever it is, it will eventually run its course and you'll get better. Also, even though my ENG test was "normal" there could still be slight difference between the two sides to cause an issue."
kel2015 Kevin5555
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anne05147 Kevin5555
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Kevin5555 anne05147
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Kevin5555 kel2015
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chris1303 kel2015
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anne05147 kel2015
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laurence76206 anne05147
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We were tralking about avoiding certian foods in a previous post, can I ask what foods you avoid. I think I said that I have been diagnosed with VN but the consultant also thinks I am suffering with migraine. Like a lot of the other posts on here my dizziness started with a viral infection (probably the Herpes virus as I had a cold sore on my eye). Since then I developed intolerances to certain foods which I found to aggravate the condition. I was told to avoid citrus, caffiene, chocolate, alcohol and salty foods and to drink plenty of water, I have done all these things but still get days when I am very off balance. I have been trying to figure out if there are other foods affecting me.
I had a bad day yesterday as I felt very dizzy but I did feel as though I had picked up a chill (probably walking in the rain the pats two days).
Best wishes
Laurence
anne05147 laurence76206
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Were you told not to have any salt, i don't think salt was mentioned and i do have quite a bit on my dinner which my husband says i shouldn't but we don't use salt in our cooking so i shake it all over my dinner.
I do need to drink plenty of water which i also forget to do cos' it is so boring sloshig down gallons of water but i must try harder.
I have been off work since my surgery last monday and thinkt he anaesthetic set me back with the vision thing going on thursday but i also find lolling around not doing much isn't helping either, cos i think if we don't use our balance to move about a lot then it's harder to get back to normal. Anyway if i remember the other food that i'm avoiding i will let you know but i definitely know from having 2 chocolate biscuits a few weeks back by the time i got home from work i was all over the place within the space of about 2 hours of having them.
I think because this is now our achilles heel anything that trigger it off and if you got a chill that's probably affected you.
Keep on keeping on. Best wishes. Anne.
marlene21102 anne05147
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Trigger Point Therapy.its for neck,back,shoulder etc
also Wavering technique .
I'm looking back into gluten ,second trip on that ,why Im doing that ,I've had this what I've always thought was prickly heat ,got it on arms ,legs ,bust .plus rash on arms,not sore but red ,on flesh part opposite of elbows .
2 consultants have said about my having Ecezema ,this is a sign to gluten ,plus balance / Dizzyness ,plus it will give you anxiety ,my daughters mother in law is a celiac ,she says if it was that I would have severe stomach prob ,but it can be gluten sensitivity I've got going on .So will be off again down this route ,my local mate ,has a daughter with gluten ,so going to have word with her today ,see what's said ,as I know her daughter had a prob for over 2 years before finding out the gluten prob ,see if it caused her the balance ,even to the neck ache .Plus I'm up on the Gluten society site .
There's got to be a few common factors in all we've got going on ,which is our link to it .
Takecare xx
laurence76206 anne05147
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Yes I have reduced my salt intake to around 4-5g per day (i think the UK is max 6g per day). I also drink lots of water but like you tend to forget some days. I drink very little else aside from camomile tea to aid my sleep. I take lots of vitamins and minerals. I do suffer with my eyes, it was suggested by Rocksolid (i think) to look into Vertical hetererphobia I will ask my optician about this. I am sure it is mostly the thing I have with my eyes that makes me off balance.
I will keep doing the VRT and walking daily, hopefully this will make a difference in the future (at least I will be fitter).
By the way, do you suffer problems with your stomach as I do. I was also told this can be connected to migarine?
Best wishes
Laurence
chris1303 laurence76206
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anne05147 laurence76206
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I now only drink decaff and didn't drink alcohol anyway. I am going to see an optician on saturday and will mention my balance problems and vertical heterophbia. I wear varifocal glasses but might go for bifocals this time as find it a problem sometimes with everything going skewed when i turn my head to check whilst driving at junction that the varifocal part is blurring my visiion. I will be asking the optician a lot of questions this time round.
My main triggers with this problem are looking upwards and also looking upwards and raising my arm above my head, e.g., if i want to open a top cupboard drawer or get a hanger off a rail in the shop etc.,
I have had IBS for many years now, but it comes and goes and haven't had it past 2 years since having this instead.
I also have had autoimmune diseases in the past like alopecia areata and lichen plantus, where my body tries to beat itself up - such fun!
I must inform my body that i am not at war with it
laurence76206 chris1303
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No problem, I am lucky in that I only get this occasionally and generally my appetite is good. That said i have never been able to regain the 9Lb i have lost in weight since this thing started which is weird. It may be down to not having my 7-8 pints of beer per week or eating chocolate (oh to have those days back again!). It could also be due to the ongoing anxiety we suffer with this condition?
Are you due any further appointments. I have just called my consultants office to request a call back from Mr Rea to discuss some further issues I have.
cheers
lauernce
chris1303 laurence76206
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By coincidence I have my first 40 minutes tomorrow with a neurologist following my neck mri having issues that the ENT couldn't deal with....I may not even have VN! I could have wasted 6 months and done irreparable damage to my cervical spine through 225000 exercise movements! I'll let you know tomorrow...just pleased I pushed for mri's...cheers
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laurence76206 anne05147
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I am told that a heaped tea spoon is 6g. A slice of white bread contains 0.43g which is more that a bag of crisps (0.33g)!.
Like you I also have other conditions. Many years ago I was diagnosed with ME. I have managed to work most of the time with the condition and the only real problems it caused were at te start (i had to give up all my sports). It may now be affecting me due to the VN but the consultant is not sure.
I also suffer Glaucoma (this runs in our family) so have to put drops in my eyes nightly.
I was also told I had H.pylori which causes similar symptoms to IBS, around 50% of the worlds population have this but only around 10% suffer any symptoms.
My main problem is looking down, which is a bit annoying as my head is tilted down when reading, eating using the PC and so on. This causes me to get a bit lightheaded. I am doing VRT to try and alleviate this.
I am due an appointment at the eye hospital any day so will also raise the issue of vertical heterophobia.
Best wishes
Laurence
anne05147 laurence76206
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Kind regards
Anne.
paula59 anne05147
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chris1303 paula59
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anne05147 paula59
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Hope you feel better soon, Hang in there
marie43202 paula59
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I, too, totally get your frustration with drs.
I can't help but think these symptoms are all due to nerve damage. I was in a car accident as well many years ago. I was stopped at a traffic light and rear ended by a truck. Unfortunately, when I was hit, I had my neck bent down reaching for my purse on passenger side so I did get hit at a bad angle. Didn't realize the extent of damage to my cervical discs (severe, multiple cervical disc degeneration) until years later after a MRI. MRI was performed due to sudden excruciating neck and arm pain, I was unable to move at all and in tears. Basically, "shoot me now" pain. Now come to think of it (after reading all these threads), I experienced the same dizziness and nausea after the accident, particularly after physio and massage therapy. So much so that I could not continue with this treatment. Maybe for the ones that had a traumatic injury, this is not related to the ears but to the cervical nerves. The ears, not to mention the tingling in the hands and feet are affected by injury, inflammation, entrapment...whatever, of the cervical nerves.
As usual, grasping at straws, trying to make sense of this madness.
Take care.
kel2015 marie43202
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Terry6872737 paula59
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I'm really sorry to hear that. As you know all too well, most of the medical community is useless in their concern for the issues that this condition poses for those of us suffering from it. The SCM is a good direction to follow and another thing that you may want to Google is Whiplash Associated Vertigo. There is a lot of information out there on this issue as well. I believe that it is linked to the SCM issue.
I am nearing 100% recovered from this dreaded condition and it has been a long journey, 17 months this week. I got to 95% or so and didn't seem to be moving forward anymore. I started taking Ginkgo and it is moving forward again for me. I also have an appointment tomorrow for what is called a Manual Lymphatic Drain or MLD. You may want to look that up as well. The drain supposedly jump starts the lymph nodes in the area of the massage in order to help the body rid itself of excess fluids. I believe that some of my residual issues are related to fluid that just won't escape from around my inner ear. You may want to Google that as well to see what you think. I had 3 months of physical therapy on my SCM and still get a neck massage every 2 weeks.
We all should have medical degrees by now with all of the research we have to do on our own.
Best wishes
laurence76206 marie43202
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I also have the exact same issues with tingling to the face and speech problems. I have raised this with every consultant I have seen but had very little reaction. It does get worse the more I try to do e.g I spent 6 hours on the PC yesterday by the end my face felt tingling and I had difficulty forming words when talking to my wife. Like everyone else on here I have had all the MRI scans neck and head (twice) and seen three different consultants, the diagnosis is VN (with migaraine).
I have requested a call from the consultant today to go over some of my symptoms with him as I don't want to wait until my next appointment in 5 weeks time.
Good luck to all on this site, I hope we do get the asnwers we all seek.
Best wishes
Laurence
kel2015 laurence76206
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I am sorry to hear that you are having these same odd difficulties as well; this is not the life we are to be living indeed. Ashame as to all of these specialists too. I truly do believe that we are all capable of overcoming all of these problems without having to strain ourselves by trying to get in to see these doctors. They are all aware that patients are waiting months to get in to see them, and then we are in and out of there within minutes with no further resolutions, but rather more possible negative thoughts to repeat in our heads. Medical profession is insanity. Alternative routes may be our best option.