Drain blood via a syringe during venesection

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I must confess I don't like this at all - When I first started the venesection they just allowed the blood to flow freely via the tube. Now they effectively drain it via the syringe so that the syringe acts like a pump with them drawing back & fourth on it  with their hand - Not very nice as a few times the bloods gone absolutely every where - They say its because its not free flowing I personally believe this as more to do with the time your effectively sitting in the chair and they have other patients waiting in the clinic so to speed it up they use this method  

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    Hello again Paul,

    I saw my consultant yesterday. My level was 1421 when I started venesection about 2 months ago. It's currently 698.

    Hopefully if it keeps dropping at this rate I'll be below 50 by Christmas.

    It is a pain in the arse going every week , it's a pain trying to organise it around work.

    The nurses where I go are good as gold. Also when you sit there looking at all the poor sods that are there to have chemo you realise that there are a lot worse things to have than Haemochromatosis

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      Your dropping at a fast rate smile - Quite agree about there being far worse out there. Its cert no fun having needles stuck in your arms each Wk but it could be worse!  - Glad to hear things are working for you

      Paul.  

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    Yes, me too last venesection.  2 hrs and 4 attempts to get less than 400 mls.  My blood is often black and thick as it was that day.  3 nurses had a go.  Drank one cup of tea and 5 glasses of water while in the chair - had to have a pee break.  I believe the waiting can be a problem, so I try to walk up and down the corridor waving my arms around like a madwoman.  Getting cold while waiting - sometimes I am offered a hot blanket.

    Sometimes it goes easy, others like above.  I am also fighting fatigue and body pain even though I have been 'deironed' for years.  I began thinking no wonder I feel like I am dragging around a heavy chain and anchor, plus the body pain if my blood is so thick and black like that.

    When I complained to haemotologist, it must have been the nurses fault.  Of course it isn't, although some a better than others.  No answers to my problems - I just should not be having them because I am 'deironed'.  So off my own bat, I decided to try thinning my blood down with aspirin.

    100mg daily with breakfast.  Within less than a week, I started to feel like I WANT to do things, walked faster, lighter.  Because I now go to the gym 2-3  times per week to try to regain some strength and muscle lost over the years therefore pushing myself even further I still do crash and burn and while I get to a point after dinner that I can't remain upright anymore, I can take stuff to bed with me to continue to do while propped up.

    My next venesection is due mid June.  Can't wait to see what happens.  I am not advocating it.  But so far it is working for me.  So it is under personal trial.  I missed two days of taking the aspirin and really noticed the difference, then realised I had missed two days - aspirin has days marked on the press out bit.

    I had thought of asking nurses to set up a saline solution feed at same time, but that could mean that they were collecting more saline than blood.  So I will see how I go.

    The weird thing is that all the time in the past, whenever a dr has tested my circulation  on my ankle and groin points, they say it is very good.  My oxygen level pre venesection is never less than 99% so one would think everything was perfect.  it goes up to 100% after venesection, which could be a telling point.  My BP is always low to good too.

     

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      Sorry, terrihigashi has good knowledge of both haemochromatosis and the ferroportin disorder.  
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    Never heard of this. I was a little slow in the beginning they said my blood was thick. .as my ferritin went down it was faster. In 7 months of weekly treatments.. i am at 167. i noticed that drinking tea with every meal or milk. Really moved the numbers..but when i used the cranberry pomegranate juice, which chelates iron.. i really improved. I did have a glass of wine now and then..with cheese.. my liver was tested recently and my counts are on the low side of normal. I started at 1600. I googled everything on the subject. Tried lots of things.

    I think your blood is just a little thick for niw. Weird barbaric way to get it out.

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      Yeh I did think that when they started pulling the blood via a syringe it was a bit barbaric but from what I've since found out is they do this because its taking to long to come out naturally. They are effectively just pulling the blood via syringe then pushing it back so it fastens up the process - Personally think this is more to do with the time you’re occupying a chair in the unit which on telling some people they think it’s absolutely dreadful and should be allowed to flow out naturally  

      Paul

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      If your blood is thick and clotting quickly it is not going to flow 'naturally'.  They were doing you a favour so that you got your venesection.  Anywhere else, like pathologists and blood banks would just send you on your way and tell you to come back another time.

      They used the syringes on me too in those four attempts, sometimes pushing saline into me at same time as well to unblock the clots which was really a waste of effort because then it is mostly saline that comes out.

      That is why I decided I would try a daily dose of aspirin.  My ferritin level was only 56 so it has nothing to do with ferritin level.  Got no sensible answer from haemotologist why it is happening.  Except I know that my serum iron (mobile iron in my veins) is still very high and my TS% is 100%, which means that 100% of the serum iron is available to store in my organs, if it was left to do so without venesections.

       

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      Think people differ myself – Although my view is blood should be allowed to flow out freely. Its very messy using syringes and thinking about it air must effectively get trapped so that cannot be very gd for you.

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