Ebola ~ is anyone concerned ?

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Is anyone concerned?  I'm wondering if those who already have a compromised immune system is more susceptible?  Errors are being made by those who were under "quarantine" are breaking protocol, how do we protect ourselves with people being so ignorant?  Also, what do you feel about person who broke protocol just for a bowl of soup?

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    I see two different problems.

    1. RISK - the huge risk was stageringly out of proportion to the trivial gain.

    2. INDISCIPLINE - breach of discipline put him/herself at risk of harm, a considerable number of colleagues at risk of harm and many of those whom his/her profession required him/her to protect and nurture at risk of harm. Irresponsible does not begin to descrble the fault.

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      True, Doc!

      What about the recent nurse who became infected because she was with the US paitent but a nurse working with her didn't follow protocol and went out to get soup at a resturant.  What!! yes, that's a true story.  So, now, they are considering  eveyrone in and out of that resturant etc.  The resturant has lost so much busniess because people are worried.  It wasn't the resturant that made the mistake but that nurse.  Should she get some fine or what?  it's a mess that I'm afraid will only get worse as time goes on.

      Frustrated Xx

      PS! Thank you for your response!

       

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      I think that she gave grave moral offense. Whether through wilfulness or carelessness she showed love of self instead of the love of her neighbour. I believe all of us are called to love our neighbour; a nurse is called to display such neighbour love to a higher than usual degree, The failure is then the more grave. But I say that only in principle. In the particular case I must acknowledge, who am I to judge my neighbour, I who fail in love to my neighbour day in and day out. That brings me to the law of the governing state. Man makes laws to punish those who transgress and makes others fear to transgress. I should be surprised if the nurse has not comitted a crime. If she survives the Ebola she may well be charged with wrong doing. If found guilty the judge will punish her according to the law of the state. Not only has she endangered the lives of many but also put the state to considerable hardship. The public health officials will have a very difficult task tracking every employee, customer, visiting tradesman and all their contacts in homes, shops, busses, trains, taxis, parks and streets. impossible! they will cut the list according to perceived risk. The offense is very grave. The need to make others fear to do a similar thing is very urgent.
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      And now there are 70.  One bowl of soup and now 70 more at risk.  The CDC has already made sure her home was "washed" inside and out in fact they showed them washing her sidewalk.  Her poor pup is locked inside the home.  They take food and water to him/her daily.  Soon, I fear this pup will pay the price as they'll end up putting it down because of the cost it's taking to do these home deliveries.  Soon.  Time will tell.

      But the hugest disappointment is now there are at the very least 70 new people exposed.  From 1 to 70 what now from 70 to 140 then what?  This, I fear is already out of control. 

      I'm doubting that making one "pay" for their digressions will not compare to those they've infected.  The one man from Missouri who infected approx. 300 women with AIDS, "reckless exposure to HIV", ok so he'll get life, that doesn't change the fact that he most probable gave a life sentence to 300 other people.  Perhaps theirs won't go into the full blown AIDS but they are still HIV positive.  To get to the point, who cares about him getting a life sentence as they very well may give this nurse, who cares, really?  The damage is done.  Many more will die because of this. 

      I don't have an answer to this situation.  I'm afraid it's already exposed too many and like Doc said, public health officials will have a very difficult taks tracking every employee, customer, visitor  etc...is it alread too late?

      Frustrated

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      Thank you frustrated for that update. Those who care for our health do take very big risks. We take our diseases to them and they have to notice if is really dangerous. By the time they know it may be too late for them.

      There is the responsibility side to. It is up to them to prevent dangerous diseases spreading. When they fail, as with the soup lover, many must suffer. We owe a great deal to those who take the risks and discharge their responsiblity effectivly. It is just an every day job for them. That makes it so much more difficult.

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      I cannot agree with you more, Doc!  My daugther is one who takes great risks as well.  She is a dedicated worker and would lie down her life to save another.  She strongly feels that this person did exactly what was intended and that's to spread this awful virus.  Oh, she's made a name for herself, yes indeed.  However, I'm wondering who will be around in the future to even care or read about it?  dah. My main concerns are with my grandbabes.  I love them so deeply and would give my life for them but what good will that do if everyone is infected.  I'm pretty sure the "cure" has been bumped to the top of the health list and chemists are working day and night trying to find something that would at least put a "hold" on this virus.  But like any virus, there isn't anything that can "cure" it, it has to run its course.  Do you think they may find something to stifle this virus?

      Frustrated Xx oO!

       

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      Some 30% recover. Rather worse than the Black Death.Those that recover have the genetic material so that if survival is a dominant gene most of their children will survive subsequent outbreaks. This is what happened with people and the Black Death. Subsequent outbreaks grew weaker and weaker. Plague is still a threat but not to the population at large.
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      That is an interesting thought that the soup lover deliberately infected others. A shorter starring career than a one good song only top of the pops group. Another scenario might be she broke protocol and reacted viciously. If she was going to die then so were a lot of other people. Something chilly ran down your spine, did it?
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      Well, the news now is that Africa can expect approx 10,000 cases per week.  My mind boggles when I read this news.  As, ebola started with one there, right?  I'm afraid it may become epidemic.  No reason to run scared of this?  I'm not convinced otherwise.  The death rate was at 50% now it's reached 70%. 

      I know there is nothing we can do presently to stop this horrific virus.  Panic definitely won't help.  So, what's next, what do you suggest one do?  This is a worldwide problem.  What is the "world" doing to help stop this becoming an epidemic, or has it already become that?

      And, Doc, yes, this is one subject that has ran chills up and down my spine.  I have no fear in dying.  However, my kids and grandkids as well as yours and everyone elses, might not experience life as it should be experienced.  Next question, will they have to "come back" and repeat their life since it may have been cut short from it's purpose?

      Good gosh, I'd better end this as I could go on for days!

      Xx Frustrated oO

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      It is as you say very grave news. We grandparents fear for our grandchildren. The Lord Jesus said "Allow the little chidren to come to me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Myself, I don't expect they will have to live through this uncertain world again, but accepted by the Lord they will always be with him.where he is in heaven or more acurately in the New Heaven and New Earth.
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      Well said.  I always struggled with the fact if having children was such a good idea afterall.  It's like situations as this "ebola" and others that have long passed and threaten to come back "the plague" and so on.  However it is supposed to be, I wouldn't change a thing as my children helped me as I helped them, grow.  I became "unselfish" as there is no place in parenthood for being for one.

      I'm keeping aprise to this Ebola issue and keep your comments coming as you know, Doc, I enjoy reading what you have to say. 

      Frustrated

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    Happy to report today they took "bentley" the pup of the nurse with Ebola, has been taken from the home and is being cared for with professionals.  They stated that Bentley will not be euthanized!  The fear of passing from an animal back to humans is the animals can bite, the salvia from licking etc.  So, as of today, they see no reason why Bentley has to leave.  Poor Bentley, Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, is so confused but is being well taken care of.  This just may be the beginning of something good!  Let's all hope so.

    Frustrated

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    Another member of the health care team that treated Thomas Eric Duncan tested positive for Ebola, health officials reported Wednesday.  Is this the beginning of the end?  What do you feel?

    Frustrated

    • Posted

      My respect for the courage of health workers grows and grows. Ebola makes it very obvious just how courageous they are in committing themselves to help the sick - they commit their lives.
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     Those who are following the Ebola situation should also know that a second Dallas nurse with Ebola was on flight day before diagnosis.  Fear that exposure to an additional 132 people.  Is anyone convinced that this is all under control?  Please enlighten me.
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      Whoops, hit reply too soon.  Since this is a situation that happened Oct 13, now they are just finding out that another nurse has been exposed and was with other's while "no signs" of exposure were present.  Another 132 exposed, what the heck!  I believe it's too late but they should have quarantined EVERYONE w/i a stones throw from the original person from the get go!  I'm fearing it's too little too late, please let me in on what you're feeling.

      Frustrated

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      Modern life with the ability to travel rapidly round the world is very convenient and often pleasant. We have been worried by thoughts of bird flu being whisked round the world by plane. Yet when something, possibly even worse than bird flu arises, it is initially treated as a side issue for the three then four African countries involved. For bird flu work was urgently done to develop vaccines. For Ebola in Congo, was it 2 years ago, there was little fuss. Mankind may have missed its chance back then. 
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      Good Morning Doc ~

      I'm afraid you're right about missing our chance 2 yrs ago.  Just today, the President states, we "MUST" get aggressive with regards to Ebola.  Ha!  Like I said, to little too late on that statement.  That statement should have been made possibly a few years ago or even if not then, a quaratine everyone, even those who "risks" their lives to go and assist.  That was a choice they made.  Now, when the going gets tough, they want out.  And out is exactly where they've taken this.  So God Bless, everyone.

      Frustrated

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      PS on my previous, someone is popping in and reading just by the fact that there are 2 "votes" on my posts.  Please, whomever you are, drop a line and tell us what you're thoughts are, clearly you have more to add than just what I say.  If that be the case, give Doc a "vote" as well.  He's profound in his verse!

      Thank you,

      Frustrated

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