Endoscopic Spine Surgery
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Hi. Has anyone here had Endoscopic spine surgery please? I am thinking of having it done privately for a herniated L5 disk. Any thoughts or info please on peoples knowledge of this type of surgery for the spine and opinions?
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Carolineq8 gabriella44865
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Yes, please do as much research as possible as you don't want to end up like a lot of people on this forum, there's not many people recover fully from spinal surgery!! Have you tried alternative treatment line a chiropractor?
I don't want to scare you but I have a couple of friends who have and there quLity of life is horrendous now, I had l4/5 spinal fussion 13 years ago privately and have never worked since, I was 33, if I could change that 1 decision I would. I have just tapered then quit cold turkey from opiod pain meds which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, even tho the surgery is different the outcome is the same for us, we all live s life with chronic pain, I also have 16 lumbar faucet joint injections every 6 months so I can be more mobile my chiro doc said if he'd known me back in the day he could have prevented surgery, as a result of my surgery I also have a cyst compressing my thiracic spinal cord and cervical (neck) degeneration with bone spurs which makes my neck go into spasm, there's no neuro doc that will give you this much info there trained to operate, ring your local hospital and speak to pain management and ask them how many people have to see them because of failed back surgery, I hope you get sorted but a year or more looking at alternatives is better than a life time of hell, my friend had the same as you and I advised her the same now she's had to give up work, there also looking at putting a stimulator into her for pain relief, I hope the decision you make is the right one for you, good luck Hun ??
gabriella44865 Carolineq8
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Hi Caroline. Yes the more I look into it the more it seems that surgery isn't going to get rid of pain but just give me a new feeling or type of pain?! I am getting to the stage where I need to stop work but I'm still working due to finances and not knowing how to manage if I stop work. I already get PIP but do you know what benefits I can claim for when I give up work as I feel I need an action plan and my work is just adding to my condition as it involves sitting and standing and lifting! Any advice on benefits would be much appreciated! X
Carolineq8 gabriella44865
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That's the other problem it took me 4 years to get anything and that was only 2 years ago, the first 7 years they just laughed at me, the pip is minuscule! my husband is self employed and we have struggled for over 10 years I actually don't know how we've managed but you do you have to, the docs will not help either they don't get involved in that side of things so youl be fighting the system on your own, the only thing that really helped me was my chiro practor he's amazing, I could barely stand up straight or walk and he sorted me out but you have to get one that is good and I know it can be costly but it might help you stay at work a little longer, also what about a tens machine there really good and a brace, your gp may be able to help with the tens but the brace I got from one of the cheap supermarkets it's like a bandage and it works great for me there are ones with supports in but they where no good so it's trial and error, I hope this helps Hun and I wish you well for the future xx
steven12310 gabriella44865
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If your getting it done privately ensure you go to a specialist in spinal injuries as I did. It cost a lot of money but better than getting it done in the NHS. In addition there is a treatment called "Bowen therapy" which is only a few pounds per treatment but incredibly effective. Just google it to find someone near you.
Carolineq8 steven12310
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steven12310 Carolineq8
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Carolineq8 steven12310
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I'm booked in on Monday, I can't wait to see how it goes thank you, I will let you know how I get on😊
gabriella44865 Carolineq8
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steven12310 gabriella44865
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It is easy to find out the differences if you just google each one
steven12310 gabriella44865
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sorry didnt quite finish what i was saying. If you are referring to the Bowen Therapy you can only get this done privately but it is very cheap around £15 to £20 a session of an hour or so.
Carolineq8 steven12310
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It's £40 where I am but the guy who does it said he has patients that have been referred to him from the pain management unit in his area (not mine but will mention it next time I'm there) with good results
gabriella44865 steven12310
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I'm interested to know how much the endoscopic spine surgery costs?
Carolineq8
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I just want to add that I did go private for my opp, lumbar fussion, so many things went wrong but I never questioned anything because I thought I was in good hands, it's only looking back now I could kick myself,
The nurse took me to the toilets and took the drain out my back while I held onto the sink, I said I'm going to pass out and she said no youl be ok and then I passed out on the floor 1 day after my opp
I was sent home 4 days later with no meds, brace, walking AIDS, physio, absolutely nothing, no advice on what to do just that youl be fine and back to work in 3-6 months, havnt been able to go back to work
I have faucet joint injections at 4 levels bilateral every 5-6 months (16 injections in total)
7 years later after constant pain and just fed up I asked for a scam on my thoracic spine and discovered I had a thiracic arachnoid cyst, after a lot of research I found that this is extremely rare and not a lot of info but it's caused by trauma to the lumbar spine ie.. Failed back surgery, this is compressing my spinal cord and been told that if they remove it I'll be paralysed from the chest down.
As a result of this I also have cervical degeneration with bone spurs at every level which caused muscle spasms in my upper spine and neck, not nice at all
Sorry for going on but iv had 13 years of hell and docs not taking any responsibility for what they've done to me and to think I paid for this life of pain, that's why I would tell anyone not to have surgery until they've looked at every avenue and only as a last resort, it dosnt work for everyone but great for those it does help
Carolineq8 gabriella44865
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I can't comment on the cost of your surgery but mine was £6500 13 years ago
Carolineq8 steven12310
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gabriella44865 Carolineq8
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You motivate me to stay strong and not give in to the surgery. I assume you feel that your money was wasted and that going private doesn't mean no mistakes will be made? Do you manage to go out or have a social life?
Carolineq8 gabriella44865
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It's very difficult I'm in constant pain, iv been on opiod meds for the past 2 years and all they done was made me like a zombie and loose a lot of weight, iv just done 6 weeks of tapering then cold turkey, I'm still getting post withdrawals not something I would want anyone to go through. I'm not saying it will be the same but just do your homework and try everything else you can, my chiro practor said if he'd known me back then I wouldn't have needed surgery, my husband was in a car accident where he injured his spine and my chiro sorted him, it took 2 years which might seem a long time but he's sorted and back to work (he has a heavy job), I wish you luck and hope you find something that works for you, please check out the Bowen treatment it looks really good 😊
gabriella44865 Carolineq8
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Carolineq8 gabriella44865
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They made me ill, I went under 7 stone (I'm 5,7) I started on the lowest dose and quickly had to go up as your body becomes dependant, after I upped the dose it felt like I had brain fog I was confused and felt like I couldn't hold a conversation without getting anctiouse, I became withdrawn from friends and family and the fatigue was something else, then I started experiencing withdrawals 2 hours before each dose which meant I needed to up the dose again but then I thought what happens when I reach my max? Go onto something else, also I was still in pain it never ends so I decided to come off them, omg I wish I had never touch them, I'm still not fully out of it but my mind is so clear and focused iv put a little weight back on also I hadn't realised but my taste buds have changed so what iv been eating for the past 2 years I can't eat anymore it taste disgusting, again I don't know anyone who actually feels better for taking them but if you do go down that path there may come a day you want to come off them and it is pure hell!! Please again do research look into withdrawals from opiods and use this forum so you get real people's stories not medical info, good luck Hun xx
steven12310 gabriella44865
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I had it done in 2000 and cost £11500 and I went to a specialist spinal clinic in Norwich by the top spinal surgeon in the UK. I would also say I was sent home without any further aftercare but I did not need any. It did not alleviate the pain or pins and needles as I found out later I had MS