Estriol Vaginal Cream.. Menopause .. anyone tried it for Vaginal Dryness ?
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wondering if this is a moderately safer option... low dose... ?
anyone use it etc... or similar ..
VAGINAL DRYNESS
Lack of estrogen can cause dryness and thinning of the vaginal tissues making intercourse uncomfortable or even painful. The first sign of an effect of reduced estrogen on the vagina is reduced lubrication during sexual activity. HRT can alleviate this but even if you cannot take systemic HRT you may still be able to use estrogen topically to the vagina. This is available in a few forms; creams administered via applicators, waxy pessaries, small tablets inserted with an applicator or a vaginal ring which stays in place for 3 months at a time. For creams, pessaries or vaginal tablets, the initial dose is 1 application nightly for 2 weeks, followed by the maintenance dose of 1 application twice weekly. Low dose vaginal estrogen preparations can be used long term without causing any known systemic effect, and without needing any progestogenic protection of the lining of the womb.
Even if you cannot or do not want to use hormones there are other options. Over the counter bio-adhesive vaginal moisturisers are very effective. A range of products are available, many of which are easier to use than KY jelly, which is water based and more slippery. These moisturizers are also slightly acidic which helps prevent vaginal infections. One other advantage is that they do not need to be used at the time of intercourse. Some women have found a Tea tree oil based product helpful. Several non-hormonal vaginal products can be also be prescribed and include Replens MD, Hyalofemme and Sylk.
Please note: Patients should consult a health professional to decide on the appropriate treatment option to be prescribed.
VAGINAL TREATMENTS
Local estrogen can be used for vaginal and bladder symptoms, when systemic treatment is not desired or appropriate. For some women, vaginal estrogen may be required along with systemic HRT.
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jayneejay
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Estriol Ovulo 0.5mg vaginal ovules x 20 ( Ovestin)
Estriol – The Power of Weak
Estriol is the third form of estrogen. It is called weak estrogen by the medical profession because it only has 1/25th the proliferative effect on female tissues. At the same time it is called weak, its usefulness is summarily dismissed by American doctors as some unknown and unproven substance – a testament to a profession’s lack of comprehension for anything that hasn’t been spoon fed to them by the pharmaceutical industry.
Your ovaries (assuming you still have them) produce 2 mgs of estriol per day, far more than any other form of estrogen. Estriol levels do not rise and fall with your menstrual cycle19, and their production is not naturally curtailed at the time of menopause.
Unlike estradiol, higher blood levels of estriol are generally protective against breast cancer. One large trial20 showed that estriol did not increase the risk for breast cancer, whereas estradiol did.
In women age 85 and older who have no heart disease, higher circulating levels of estriol21 are present and associated with healthy blood flow and good circulation. An animal study confirms that estriol increases the friendly form of nitric oxide22, an important relaxation factor for healthy circulation that helped prevent the formation of atherosclerosis in this study.
A study of women over 80 taking 2 mg of estriol per day found that it increased their bone density23.
Estradiol drugs are known to increase total cholesterol. A 2-year study of women entering menopause24 found that estriol prevented the estradiol-induced rise in cholesterol. Whereas triglyceride levels also increased in the estradiol drug group, estriol again prevented this result – even lowering triglycerides. Since an elevation in triglycerides is a key sign of insulin resistance, leptin resistance, cancer risk, and heart disease – one can only say that a natural substance that directly guards against this (estriol) is a powerful health-promoting compound.
Estriol is sometimes referred to as the pregnancy estrogen, as its production rises from 2 mgs per day to 8 mgs per day during pregnancy. It is believed that this elevation in estriol is highly protective to the evolving fetus, especially to the fetus’s nervous system25. It is also believed that the rise in estriol helps stabilize the mother’s immune response26 to the fetus, dampening the possibility of the mother’s own immune system trying to reject the fetus as foreign. It has been shown that a lack of estriol is associated with low birth weight babies27. Low estriol is also a factor associated with postpartum depression28.
Unlike the obvious issue of excess estradiol being linked to serious autoimmune problems, estriol is linked to immune stability.
Indeed, the observation of the regression of autoimmune multiple sclerosis during pregnancy has led to some fascinating studies. Non-pregnant women with MS29 have been given 8 mgs of estriol per day (the pregnancy level) and their MS has gone into regression. When the estriol is stopped it comes back, and when it is started again it goes away (including the removal of brain lesions). Phase II clinical trials30 are currently under way. One of the fascinating aspects of these initial studies showed that estriol could powerfully modulate TNFa31, a significant inflammatory signal that is overactive in many autoimmune problems. A separate cell study shows that estriol3216 is far better than estradiol at protecting brain cells from toxic exposure.
Estriol has proven effective as a treatment for vaginal dryness and atrophy33, as well as urinary tract infections. It has been shown to help relieve hot flashes34, acting as a natural hormone balancer. It helps many women with mood. If you try some, make sure you can tell it is doing something useful.
The body of evidence shows that estriol is safe and effective, a form of estrogen that is produced throughout one’s life. It acts as an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory, and is particularly effective at protecting the female system and nervous system.
As with any bioidentical hormone replacement, women should always ensure they are working on an overall health improvement program and it is moving in the right direction. Never rely on any one hormone as a “magic bullet.” And always keep it to a level that is within what your body would naturally produce.
Estriol is readily available in OTC creams and through a compounding pharmacist.
jayneejay
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( ovestin) ovestinon) also in tablet form, but its the vaginal cream I am interested in..
particularly for hot flushes, severe vaginal dryness, heart health and bone protection..... think this is the right one for me.... least risk for me...
more info..
Estriol
Let's start at the beginning: Three forms of estrogen occur naturally in a woman's body. 1. The ovary produces a form named estradiol, which is converted into another important estrogen called estrone.
2. Estriol is yet another form of estrogen metabolized from estradiol, weaker than the other two, but still active. Although estriol is most commonly linked to pregnancy since it is produced in the most measurable amounts at that time, it is still present throughout a woman's lifetime at varying levels and fluctuate throughout the day.
Because estriol has been considered a by-product of another from of estrogen and thus too weak to matter, it has been largely overlooked as a beneficial piece of the hormone pie. However, studies suggest that it can help reduce a variety of symptoms associated with perimenopause and menopause, including:
Hot flashes
Vaginal dryness
Bone density
In addition, research points to the benefits of estriol for heart health, post-menopausal urinary tract health and protection against osteoporosis.
Estriol's strength is actually found in its weakness. Tests show that while relieving the symptoms of perimenopause and menopause, estriol *** doesn't seem to increase the risk of breast cancer. This is because estriol binds to the estrogen receptors on the breast cells, but it has much weaker activity. Therefore, it actually blocks the stronger estradiol from binding to those cells and subjecting them to the higher estrogenic activity which has been shown to be protective against breast cancer. And for women who have difficulty tolerating stronger estrogens for the treatment of hormonal imbalance due to aging, estriol is often the right choice.
Jay xx
jayneejay
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may help some ladies..
Estriol vaginal the kinder choice.. ovestin - gynest etc
To understand menopause, it’s imperative to know more about your hormones, estrogen and progesterone. When a woman hits her 30s, blood levels of estrogen and progesterone gradually decline as nature intended because the childbearing years are over.
In the ’60s, more than half of the 30 million postmenopausal women in this country were prescribed esterified estrogens (usually from a horse) as the antidote to aging. However, about that same time, studies began showing that these women were five times more likely to develop uterine cancer and an increased prevalence of breast cancer than the women who did not take this estrogen replacement therapy.
There are three types of estrogens in a woman’s body that work like a symphony to safely produce the desired effects. The three types of estrogen are estrone (E1), estradiol (E2), and estriol (E3).
However, estrone and estradiol have now been shown to be *'carcinogenic when given by themselves unopposed with progesterone, while estriol has been found to be * anti-carcinogenic and therefore protects the body from the harmful effects of the other two.
Because natural products in this country cannot be patented, all of the current estrogen drugs used in this country are combinations of synthetic copies of estrone and estradiol.
Estriol is considered the “forgotten” estrogen. It has been labeled historically in the U.S. as a weak or ineffective estrogen.
However, in Europe, estriol has been recognized for its benefits and has been used for years. I like to call estriol the anti-estrogen, and the need to use a safer form of estrogen seems crucial at this time. One of the most exciting things about estriol is the fact that it exhibits considerable evidence showing that it protects against breast cancer and even shows promise in reducing the brain lesions of multiple sclerosis. Fear of cancer prevents many women from restoring youthful hormone levels. We have also found when large quantities of estrone and estradiol need to be removed from the blood stream, probiotics, vitamin B6, fiber, fish oil, and calcium-D-glucarate (you find this in apples and oranges), will also help the elimination process. The pith of tangerines and oranges is especially good for this. When estriol is applied through the topical (transdermal) route; estriol is not associated with increased cancer risk because estriol has a much lower affinity for binding to blood protein as compared to estradiol; therefore, a greater percent is available for biological activity. Other methods women can use to prevent hormone-related cancers include consuming abundant vitamin D, cruciferous vegetables, soy, D-glucarate, and lignans, while minimizing meat and high-fat dairy intake.
kathy26755 jayneejay
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I use 1mg Esriol it is safe and cancer protective although the weakest form but good for one other little thing wrinkles yes wrinkles the transdermal cream i get i use .5 vaginally and the other .5 on my wrinkle and leftover i dot a little on my neck under the chin too )) comes from a good source do not tell ur doc u want it for that though lo .I also take estrogel (estradiol) 1pump (1mg) and progesterone 60 mg split up 30 daytime 30 night and 200mg at bedtime prometrium orally and 1mg testosterone. My levels are still low so i just started on pregnelone 2mg a day 1mg am and 1 mg pm all bioidentical compounded except for the prometrium and i get it free from my gyne. i am hoping the preg will help support my adrenals to start making my back up hormones mostly progesterone as it is very low, only on a few days so cannot tell any difference as yet and need my labs done to see any changes to my levels so will be back with that when i can prolly another few weeks.P.S. I also supplement with seriphos for adrenal support from a MD/ holistic Dr. Anyway CHEERS and CHEERIO for now be back soon!
jayneejay kathy26755
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thanks for all your info..
i use mine very gingerly... as i have just reached full meno after a 9-10 year natural meno... so full HRT i dont want.. just abit of help with the vag dryness... 😀 minimal as poss..
take care, thank you for your reply ... best wishes.. Jay xx
sue22853 jayneejay
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2711 jayneejay
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Nanadotty 2711
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If you don't mind me asking did you get on ok with the cream?
I'm hoping I'm going to be a new woman soon and so is my very patient husband, I love him to bits.
phyl_40063 Nanadotty
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Love your description 'bush fire' ??????.
But on a serious note I hope you get something sorted.
I have been on estriol (vagifem tablets for insertion) for 2 months and is very effective at sorting vaginally dryness and helps to thicken up the thinning walls.
Phyl ?
colleen_2828 phyl_40063
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Hi Phyl & everyone.
I am concerned so hope someone can help. I have been given Estriol cream to use nightly for 2 weeks then 3 times a week for the 3 months to help strengthen vag walls & help ease dryness & pressure pain. Trouble is I'm scared as I have thickening of the uterus although its been checked year or so ago & Ive read that Estriol cream will cause cancer in breast & gynae area. Ive been told its low dose but still not sure about it & that it makes one fat & will stop me weeeing & I've been getting headaches & slight nausea. I would love to be free from pressure pain & stinging, I don't have prolapse but had rectocele in 2014 which is holding but I'm careful not to get constipation. I'm 63 now & at the end of my tether with it all. Any advice would be great. Thank you.
GailD colleen_2828
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Hi coleen2828, I've been prescribed estriol cream and as far as the dryness is concerned it certainly works for me in the doseage you have been prescribed. We haven't had an side effects at all. It hasn't helped with my hot flushes Im Sorry to say, but I think It's still worth using. Hope it works for you. Take care, Gail x
colleen_2828 GailD
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Thank you Gail, I am so nervous about using this cream I have heard so many things & been getting headaches probably through unnecessary worry but I'm terrified it will cause cancer, but have read its contained as inserted by applicator. I'm over weight now, will it make me put on weight more?
Thank you again.
GailD colleen_2828
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Hi Colleen , well I didn't affect my weight but we are all different. For any relief from menopause symptoms I would use it personally but you need to decide what is right for you. I'm 60, have had various gynae issues over the years but am still happy to use it. Hope that helps. G x
phyl_40063 colleen_2828
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Hi Colleen,
Im sure Matron always said that the dosage is so low in the topical cream and is targeted to specific area so therefore absorbed into local tissue.
If you are unsure about using it when you already have thickening of the walls best to talk to GP about it.
I find when I first restart using the cream that I do seem to slightly fatten around lower abdominal area, but only a little and I thin out again as I take that months break.
Someone said ( can't remember who) you can stay on it and no need to take that months break anymore. My latest instructions were to take every day for two weeks and then as and when needed. So I go swimming once a week and take it that evening and also just before I do my 2 shifts at work so that splits it up too twice a week.
I get really nippy problem with dry scar tissue so it helps alleviate that. I also can feel a difference in the internal walks as they thicken up.
I was worried too when I first started it (I always avoided anything hormone based), but matron been using it for years so I thought it was worth giving it a go and see how it went and been using it for over a year and haven't gained any extra weight actually lost half a stone and feel it has aided my repairs helping to strengthen internal walls.
Phyl x
Glenygleny jayneejay
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Didnt really want to use this because I went through the menopause 15 years ago with hardly any problems and didn't want to put unnecessary drugs into my system.
i finally relented after reading internet reviews and boy am I glad I did. Practically overnight I felt great. My aches and pains cleared and my previously dead sex drive returned. Hurrah.... Will be seeing my G.P. To find long term usage results. So far so good. Booking smear test soon. Don't know if the sex drive thing is normal or just me.
rosemary66682 Glenygleny
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Are you in UK by any chance?
I went through menopause 17 years ago but three years ago hot flushes returned. Nit sure whether to try estriol or progesterone
Do you know what your levels were like??
Many thanks
phyl_40063 Glenygleny
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The sex drive thing returning must be normal.
I started on vagifem (estrinol), low dose (vaginally tablet) , about 2 months ago .
Vag is more like it should be and not been like that for years and as you say sex drive much higher than its been for years.
Phyl ☺
phyl_40063 rosemary66682
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Hi rosemary,
Been on estrinol for 2 months now and while this has helped with Vag dryness and thickens up the thinning walls, my hot flushes are just as bad as ever!
However I don't take anything else periods ended 5 years ago, had hot flushing for last 3 years. Hoping it will all end soon.
Phyl ?
SStoo phyl_40063
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phyl_40063 SStoo
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Hi SStoo,
I am using Vagifem a topical for of Estriol ; you can get it in cream or tablet for and comes with applicator for insertion.
It is only a very small amount and targeted to the specific area you want therfore very low risk. You only use it for 3 months at a time then come off it for 1 month.
I have now been using it for almost three months as I have very thin internal walls and have had various pelvic floor repairs leaving me with very dry scar tissue. It has helped to thicken the internal walls and helps moisturise them.
My hubby reckons I have a more youthful glow ( not sure if it is a result of the hormone ); he claims skin is softer, hair glowing. Don't see how as being on such a low dose and targeted to pelvic floor means very little is absorbed into blood stream.
Think I only look so good due to warmer weather and some vitamin D for a change. Also having had pelvic repair not in so much pain, and getting out and about a little.
Hope this helps.
Phyl x?💖