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jeff22198
jeff22198

I have been told,that there is a 'Dip' in my ECG and they want me to go on medication leading up to a Angiogram,I have not  even decided if I will do this yet,as no pains in my chest,just feel a bit tired lately.

I am  exercising like mad, but they are telling me to stop completly,why is this, I thought you had to exercise whatever ?

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  • gillian_25383
    gillian_25383 jeff22198

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    Better to be safe than sorry.Take the heart medication till you have had the angiogram.If that is normal you may be able to stop. Before my first angiogram was told NOT to do anything that could bring on symptoms before the angiogram was done.Also (God forbid)but heart attacks do not all follow classic symptoms-my two didn't ☺
  • Bob37393
    Bob37393 jeff22198

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    Medical professionals should give you enough information for you to make an informed decision about the level of risks involved in agreeing to one or more of:

    a) carrying on exercising as you are,

    b} stopping exercising,

    c) going on medication,

    d) having an angiogram.

    They should then tell you in what way the 'dip' on your ecg relates to the risks they have just informed you about.

    I was asked to 'cooperate' with treatment that was deemed to be in my own interest but had all the hallmarks of a medical study.

     

  • kb87
    kb87 jeff22198

    Posted

    Hi Jeff, 

    Keep in mind that the heart is the body's hardest-working muscle. Recent research indicates a correlation between low myoqinon CoQ10 levels and heart health. 95% of our ATP is derived from CoQ10. Therefore, lack of energy could be related to low levels. For example, check out the Q-Symbio study, supplementing with 100mg of ubiquinone three times/day and the background information on it. I believe you will find some great information that can help you ask your cardiologist better questions. 

    • derek76
      derek76 kb87

      Posted

      This weeks edicts say that Fish Oils and CoQ10 are not beneficial
    • jeff22198
      jeff22198 derek76

      Posted

      So you think they are not worth taking Derek ?

      Apart from the drugs, does anything else Really work ?

    • derek76
      derek76 jeff22198

      Posted

      I get my fish oils from oily fish like mackeral and salmon.

      I used to take fish oil as well but when I queeried if I could take it when prescribed Warfarin the sister at the INR clinic asked why I thought that I needed it.

      The BBC2 series Trust me I'm a Doctor tested olive oil on groups and found that in six weeks it showed heart benefits whether it was Virgin or ordinary quality. Sunflower and Rape Seed oils had no benefits.

      It was against CoQ10 after testing groups of people some time ago. They also covered health products supplements and vitamins and found great variations in strength. Not all were what was said on the tin and some did not even contain any of the product and some contained chemicals instead (January 20th 2016)  and the labels on them were from well known companies. A fuller report may now be on their web site.

       

  • jeff22198
    jeff22198

    Posted

    Thank you all Very much,I  am sure you all know about exercise and I do not like to be off for more than 3 days,as once you leave exercise for long,its hard to get it back.So a bit of a row tonight when I said I was going 'spinning',very hard cycling.

    So I have not gone,but my body loves this,it loves being in that zone,going to see the doctor tomorrow and see what he says.My wife just said 'oh after that,we can get a Flying Start', a breakfast with loads of grease,I think she was joking,I hope anyway.I am taking your notes with me tomorrow Bob, see what he says, he is a new doctor.

    I have seen some things on CoQ10. KB,will see what I can find out,has anyone come across something natural that really works, for instance,I have heard a lot about cinnamon,but does it do anything ?

    Have you heard of Wendy Myers,or is she just selling things ?

    Hope you are right Gillian smile

  • derek76
    derek76 jeff22198

    Posted

    Did they not do a stress ECG or Echocardiogram?
    • jeff22198
      jeff22198 derek76

      Posted

      Basic ECG,few wires and pads,then at the hospital,same thing,but had me on a treadmill. Do you think a Echocardiogram could be more reliable ?
    • gillian_25383
      gillian_25383 jeff22198

      Posted

      An echo will show if there is any problems with blood flow through heart.Don't be fooled like me.I thought it would be the heart equivalent of pregnancy ultrasound but they have you wired up to ecg machine and there was lots of holding one's breath (not my forte ).Quite an interesting procedure though.Also had a procedure (cannot remember correct name)but they inject radioactive thorium then take gamma pictures of the heart (you just lie there and the machine does all the work).☺

      Good luck with getting a diagnosis

    • derek76
      derek76 jeff22198

      Posted

      If the stress ECG was OK that was probably enough for you.

      I always get false positive and have an angiogram that is clear.

  • kb87
    kb87 jeff22198

    Posted

    Hi Jeff, 

    The fact is that more and more research finds a correlation between low CoQ10 levels and heart disease. The tiredness could indicate that CoQ10 could be benefiticial because it is responsible for your ATP production (which in turn is responsible for 95% of your total energy production). Since CoQ10 is produced naturally by your body (but production decreases as we get older), you could simply supplement with ubiquinone every day since that is the Q10 that has been tested in all the clinical trials. It does not have any noteworthy side effects other than maybe getting too much energy or the oil in the capsule might upset your digestive system if you are not used to it. Just as long as you don't waste your money on tablets without oil as it is fat soluble. Make sure your cardiologist clears that there will not be any interactions with your other medication before taking it. 

    Cinnamon is a very strong blood sugar stabilizer and has some protective benefits as far as atherosclerosis, so it can help protect you in the long run and is not a bad idea. . 

    • jeff22198
      jeff22198 kb87

      Posted

      Is there a coq10 that stands out above the rest, or just reagular q10 from say Boots ?
    • kb87
      kb87 jeff22198

      Posted

      I personally take Bio-Quinone Gold every day. But that's a super personal decision and for you to decide. It depends whether you want to get a high quality or not. For my supplements, I only buy 3 brands for supplements in general and for CoQ10, I only consider this one because it is my heart and cardiovascular system. I personally only get supplements from companies that have pharmaceutical manufacturing. And a good tip: if you take more than 100mg/day, space it out, so you take max 100mg at a time and just increase the number of times you take it, otherwise you risk wasting it.  
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