Failed trial without catheter again...
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I failed the twoc again yesterday, I was able to pass urine which is an improvement from passing none at least - but I could only go in very small amounts and very stop start. I had a constant urge to pee.
they sent me home to self catheterise after doing it successfully before leaving hospital. I tried to self cath all night but couldn't get it in and it was very painful. I spent most of the night in agony on the toilet desperately trying to go with very small amounts coming and pain in my urethra like a UTI. I managed to self cath once first thing but 40 mins later had desperate urge to go again which i know shouldn't happen that soon if I'm empty. I was also freezing cold and felt generally unwell.
so I've been put back on full catheter and been given anti bis for for a suspected UTI. My catheter is draining full of sediment? Does that mean UTI?
im getting really anxious that in a weeks time I'm going to be stuck in the same situation. Can anybody reassure me? Has anybody been stuck forever with a catheter?!
what is the reason, they said its psychological and in which case what can I do to empty properly?
thanks if you're still reading!
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pearl40405 ellie10895
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I can fully understand how you feel, I failed my twoc test last Friday and Saturday. They sent me home with a flip/flow and I went back on Tuesday this week and like you really felt I was bursting to go and only managed a dribble. So I was re catheterised and sent home with the flip/flow. On Wednesday I was convinced I had a uti and contacted my gp who asked for a sample. Which was then sent to my local hospital. But no results until Friday. I am due to go back to the ward again tomorrow. To try again!!
I know just how horrible you feel but hang on in there. I hope we both get better quickly xx
ellie10895 pearl40405
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did they give you an explanation why you were having difficulty? How long ago and what op did you have?
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Rousselle ellie10895
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l do hope that you are on the correct antibiotic and that the UTI will very soon cleared up.
Sometimes when 'they' say a situation is psychological that means that 'they' don't know . . . a cop out. Can you get another opinion.
I send you my warmest good wishes for a resolution before too long. R
ellie10895 Rousselle
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yes I guess they probably don't know exactly why.
Hope you are recovering well.
lorelli ellie10895
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I agree it's incredibly painful, after I went to hospital yesterday morning in pain 1000 mls came out within 2 hours.
Have they told you what they think is causing it?
A catheter in the abdomen sounds very drastic to me. How long are they giving you to get back to normal before they decide to proceed with that?
Try and stay positive if you can, we can cheer each other along until we get sorted xx
lorelli ellie10895
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I have never been so happy as I was yesterday when after some hours I was able to go to the toilet without the catheter albeit hardly anything came out. I kind of knew there was going to be a problem as had drunk so much water (almost 2 litres) that could not understand where it had gone and the little bit of urine I did pass was when I didnt really have much of an urge to go either. Thank goodness I asked the doctor before I left what to do should I encounter any problems through the night without the catheter which is exactly what happened a few hours later where I was quite literally doubled over in the worst pain I have ever endured. I dont even know how I got to the hospital as the excrutiating pain was so intense. Once the nurses put the catheter in and drained all the fluid (about 750ml) in the end I think the relief came so I completely understand how you must have felt too with 1000mls coming out... Was that once they put a catheter in or did you manage to pass that amount yourself?
The catheter they are thinking of fitting is a suprapubic catheter and I dont know much about it but as I understand it also feeds to the bladder and can be switched on or off so that if you want to try and go alone you can and if not you can switch it so that you can use the catheter.
They have told me that urinary retention and not being able to go after surgery is fairly common (around 30% to 40% of women have this problem) but too be honest I dont even know what to listen to anymore as have been told and read so many conflicting things. They say that due to the bruising and swelling the bladder "goes to sleep" and I was so happy it has come back a little yesterday but now I fear that I am back to square 1 again and am worried it wont work properly.
No woman can possibly describe how frightening it is not to be able to go to the toilet alone it is just awful.
If I can help you in any way let me know.
I am sorry that my post sounds so negative but I am really feeling it at the moment and have spent much of the last 2.5 weeks in floods of tears.
thank you for listening xx
ellie10895 lorelli
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I spent all night waking up with the urge to go and even to touch my tummy where my bladder is its so sore. I think it must be the infection.
Right now I'm wishing I hadn't had the op but I know when this is sorted I will be glad. I am managing to poo normally now albeit with softeners which is such a relief and I no longer have a massive gaping vagina!
Half the battle is not getting depressed but that's easier said than done when you're stuck at home with a pee bag!
It won't be like this forever I'm sure of it. Keep posting and we can help eachother x
lorelli ellie10895
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do you still have the catheter in? even with it in I have constant pain over the bladder bug the pain is nothing compared to how I was on Thursday evening.
on Thursday my urine was dark yellow so they sent anther sample to the lab to check for infection but now urine much lighter agaim and at times dilute.
I hope we can both look back on this time once we are feeling stronger as stepping stones but think we have been a little unlucky so far. am dreading the hospitAl tomorrow to be honest and hope things will get better.
I am still bleeding too..
xx
ellie10895 lorelli
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I am not bleeding now just really wierd discharge but I'm expecting a period in the next week or so, which I am not looking forward to!
I hope all goes well tomorrow, try to be calm that will help somewhat I will be thinking of you.
Keep me posted xx
lorelli ellie10895
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I hope your next trial will go well for you. when will you next go to the hospital? are you in the UK?
will keep you posted for sure and as we are going through pretty similar stuff we can try to help each other. right now I am back in bed with a hot water bottle xx
ellie10895 lorelli
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Yes it's so degrading and makes you feel so vulnerable. My poor husband had to hold the mirror and torch while I squatted on the floor trying to get the cath in, not going to do much for our sex life!
My trial is next Weds I am in the UK, are you too? How old are you?
Has the pain from the stitches eased for you? X
lorelli ellie10895
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Like you I have that horrid dragging feeling with the bag aswell which does not help any. I also have had what can only be described as a"constant pressure feeling over the vaginal area" since the catheter has been in and for the first two weeks I had much pain and soreness by the area where the catheta fed into the vagina and when I moved position I was in terrible pain with that. You are not on your own with no energy or motivation and I can promise you I feel exactly the same.
To have this done and the countless things I have had done in the last three years has been painful intrusive and degrading and there can be no doubt that this all contributes to a loss of confidence as a woman.
You poor thing with having to try and get the catheter in with the assistance of your husband. Am sure he is more than happy to help you in your hour of need but can only imagine how upsetting that in itself must have been for you.
I am 42 and single and so have had to rely alot on my poor parents who have been by my side all the way. On thursday night when I was quite literally in the worst pain I have even been in my poor mum was beside herself and crying to see me like that. That pain for me was as great as the physical pain... all in all just terrible
Yes I am in the UK too. Are you receiving NHS care with all this or private??
I hope things will be better for you next wednesday. Will next wedneday be your first twoc or your second.
Because I have also been bleeding on and off since surgery it is very difficult for me to tell what is going on re stitches but in the last 4 days soreness is very slightly easier although I still have that bruised feeling in the bottom area and cannot sit in any one position for very long. I ams till bleeding too and not sure if this is a period or not. I will try to ask everything at the hospital tomorrow but am dreading that experience too as the hospital when I was admitted were short staffed and the nurses had about 20 seconds to speak to me.
all in all I wish I could wave a magic wand and take these problems away for both of us.
xxx
Jan999 lorelli
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I have endured a very complex medical history having had a tumour in my head removed in 1998 (I am only 42 now) and have utilised the health services both private and NHS for many many years.
This experience has been a total let down for me with exception of the consultant who I researched myself who I believe to be excellent but you will know more than most that when a patient goes in for such intrusive surgery or any other surgery for that matter they are very distressed and anxious. The service extended to me did not aid my angst in any shape or form infact made me feel much worse.
The problem always comes down to one thing sadly and that is money! The senior nurses (who believe me are few and far between) are so rushed off their feet that as they come into assist you when you ring your bell they are more often than not being called my another nurse outside about a different patient and so immediately they attention and focus is on something else. they simply have no time and it can only come down to management and lack of resource.
In the 4 days I was in hospital I can recall only one nurse taking the time to speak for me to 10 mins as I was literally flooded in tears due to the pain I was experiencing. I never saw that nurse again. I felt like a number not a patient and there was a lovely lady in the room behind me at the hospital who had also had major surgery who felt the same.
I can never recall healthcare being like this.
I can only at this stage hope and pray things will improve.
I have been told so many conflicting things that quite frankly I feel terribly confused and upset with it all.
I think it i can get my bladder working semi normally again it will help my recovery a great deal but never want to be in a position where I am in the amount of pain that I was on thursday evening so will have to make sure I am not at home without the means of a catheter until I am 90% certain that bladder will work on its own which I realise may take time.
I am truly grateful for this forum infact I spoke to three other patients in my doctors waiting room the other day who are also differing and told them all about this forum.
There can be no doubt that this site provides more information on what may happen/what will happen than any doctor ever could.
thank you for your kind words.
Hopefully I will have a happier post to send in soon
Jan999 lorelli
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I am afraid it is not just the NHS which has problems. I can assure you that the private health sector has alot to answer for but whilst in my very fragile state I am trying to think too much about that right now in the hope I can get better and feel stronger.
Hopefully I can post something much more positive sometime soon
with my thanks
ellie10895 lorelli
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It sounds like you've been through a really tough time with all your health problems and bring let down by the NHS. I went private for my op, fortunately I have private insurance with my job. I had such an awful previous experience with my local Nhs hospital which is why I ended up needing the repairs that there was no way I could go back there for this.
I hope you will have better care today and it will restore your faith, I know it isn't all bad with the NHS as you can see with wonderful people like Matron.
xx
lorelli ellie10895
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I was waiting for my scan last week and a lovely 72 year old lady was sitting next to me telling me how disgusted she was with the private healthcare too. She had suffered pneumonia an had been given a young nurse from an agency who firstly took her into a freezing cold shower and left her there by mistake then another nurse took her into another shower and there was a power cut and she had been left standing in the shower in the pitch black.
I certainly have seen things from a different light this time.
The list is endless.. It has upset me to no end and coupled with the intense pain and discomfort I am battling I have no clue as to how I have gotten through thus far. Hope things better for you now x
ellie10895 lorelli
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how are you doing now?
I wanted to give you some encouragement and confirm that I don't have a catheter now and was able to get rid after 2 weeks. It's still taken another two weeks for my bladder to feel like it's getting back to normal and it's still not perfect but it will happen for you.
im sure part of my problem was one or more infections and a really irritated urethra.
I found I could only pee standing up to start with so that my be worth a try for your next twoc?
i hope you have some progress soon X
chris00938 ellie10895
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Unfortunately my problems persist and 5.5 weeks on I still have the catheter. My next twoc is next tuesday and I am dreading that. Even if they are able to remove the catheter and let me home again and I experience problems later on with voiding and get into that unbearable pain again I am worried I will need to rush back to the hospital and likewise am anxious incause the twoc does not go well and they have to insert another catheter for three weeks. I never in a million years thought I would experience this problem. I knew that I may need a catheter but it was not communicated to me that it may be for this period of time.
I am sure my urethra is sore and irrtated too as I still have burning and a cutting pain where the tube fits in and logically assume that having had so many catheters in and our over the past 5.5 weeks has not been particulary good in allowing the area which was operated on to heal so I am very sore, The aftercare remains null and void which pains me even more. I am hardly sleeping because of all this and am now waiting to hear back to see if they located whether I have an infection or not contributing to the burning and soreness as I am unsure whether this is normal after this amount of time.
Thank you for the tip re standing and trying to wee at next twoc. I will definitely give it a go.
I am feeling so terribly low and right now I maintain that I wish upon a star I had never gone ahead with this surgery. I am sure that my thought process will change in time when hopefully things are better but right now I am so sore that I am housebound either on the sofa or in bed.
Thank you again for getting back to me. I am SO pleased you feel better.. this does allow me hope xxx
lorelli chris00938
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fingers crossed things can improve sometime soon. I am ever hopeful
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I hope things will get a little better and that the person with whom I am in the care of will have the common decenct to get back to me re whether I need antibiotics or something or whether there is an infection showing. Having no aftercare with these complications has made things 100 times worse. I remain stunned this level of care could possibly be linked with private healthcare
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This is the most horrendous thing I have ever endured and not having aftercare has made things so much worse I honestly cannot believe it.
I am trying as best as I can to cope with the pain which today has been particularly bad. If I sit tight in the same position it is very slightly better but as soon as I move or walk, that awful cutting pain sets in and is so very painful bringing me to tears. I have taken painkillers but in all honesty they arent doing much. Hope tomorrow will be a little better.
my GP is truly wonderful but in his capacity as GP he cannot do too much and will refer me back to the specialist I think at this stage.
thank you again xx
ellie10895 lorelli
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are you on antibiotics? If not then can you get some from your gp, in case some of the pain is down to the infection?
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A sorry state of affairs by all counts.
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