Feeling hopeless about acid reflux. What next?

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Hi all,

I started getting heartburn back in January and it has slowly escalated into pretty much constant heartburn. I've already had an Endoscopy which came back clear. I've tried Omeprazole, Esomeprazole and Ranitidine. I'm currently on Lansoprazole which actually seems to be making things worse. I'm also trying DGL Liquorice tablets as well as Aloe Vera Juice and a homeopathic mixture of Nux Vomica and Coffea. I also take Peptac liquid 3 times a day and the doc has also put me on Domperidone. If anything, I seem to be getting worse. Surgery terrifies me but I'm at the point where I'm rapidly running out of options. What can I try next?

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    Violet as I feel better, I am starting to have more energy.

    At first I was hungry all the time but I got used to the diet now, and it is not so bad now.

    If you can't buy the book, I can help you with what to eat.

    You can also look at the first pages for free on amazon (in the sample), most of the information you need with the Ph levels is there.

    Let me know what you usually eat, and how you prepare it, and I can help you based on the book.

    Below is what I eat:

    Breakfast: oatmeal with one banana (when I got better, I added a little bit of walnuts or almonds but not at the beginning.

    Lunch:

    One protein: chicken breast with salt, no black pepper or spices, or lean fish (like cod) or low-fat seafood like shrimps, baked tofu or tempeh, beans, lentils, chickpeas.

    One starch: plain rice, potatoes, yam (I am on a gluten free diet for other reasons so I don't eat wheat but might be fine for you, beware of all additives and vitamins included), most cereals are fine.

    Vegetables: broccoli, lettuce, butternut squash, zucchini squash, mushrooms, ... most vegetables are fine except onion, garlic, cucumber (trigger food for some), Bell peppers, tomatoes.

    I love to make stew with potatoes, carrots, parsnip and turnips: first sauteed with salt and a tiny bit of olive oil, then cooked slowly with some water in a pot with a lid for 40 minutes. I add roasted chicken breast at the last minute.

    At first I cooked everything either steamed, sauteed in a non-stick pan (I put olive oil then wipe it with a towel paper to remove most of it), grilled in the oven with salt only.

    Now that I feel a little bitter, I use one teaspoon of olive oil with my meal and sometimes some herbs but still no spices.

    Afternoon snack: melon, fresh coconut water, watermelon, whole grain spelt bread.

    Dinner: same as lunch.

    Sometimes I make carrot juice with celeri and fennel if I don't feel like cooking vegetables.

    I try to have dinner early, at least 3 hours before bed time.

    In between meals: alkaline water, it feels good, but what helped me most is the diet. I am sure it would work without the water as well.

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    My daily diet looks nothing like that! lol I usually have porridge or toast and redbush tea for breakfast, soup (non tomato based), scrambled eggs or beans on toast for lunch and usually a toasted muffin with cheese spread, fruit and yoghurt later on after work. I drink loads of water too.
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    By porridge you mean oatmeal?

    I would replace redbush tea with camomille, which is the only known safe herbal tea for stomach problems.

    Eggs are at the limit because of their content of fat, might not be recommended at first, but might be ok (some people do egg white omelets).

    I would avoid the cheese spread because of the fat, and the yoghourt because of the acidity (Ph around 4, might be ok after you get a little better), maybe you can replace the cheese on your muffin with sliced turkey breast or sliced chicken breast (is the muffin non-fat? just bread?).

    Milk (Ph around 7 I think) is more alkaline than yoghourt and cheese, but some people don't do well with it.

    The only safe fruits are melon, watermelon and bananas.

    Is there any fat, onion, garlic or spices in your soup? Is it homemade? Soups are excellent if you make them yourself with only vegetables, potatoes, and salt.

    I think it is important to check everything you eat in order to avoid additives (vitamins, citric acid, ... can be very acidic), spices and fat.

    I know it is not easy but it is worth it.

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    Yes, oatmeal. Camomile tea actually gives me heartburn. I can't afford fresh meat very often and I don't have a blender either. Sadly, there are very few fat free options in the UK. I've looked, believe me. I don't do onions and garlic anyway as they irritate my stomach.
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      Yes, Chamomile gives me heartburn too, now i know why i stopped ages ago, cos today i had a cup to see if it still affected me and now my throat is on fire! I love Jasmine tea with honey...no probs with acid so far.
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    i have oatmeal for breakfast as well, you can add banana which helps with the acid and is filling and should give you energy. i myself cannot eat too many bananas.

    i agree with ines6375 that you should stay away from cheese as it can be very acidic. what you spend on cheese you can spend on some chicken breast or a small piece of fish. i find pumpkin and winter squash very helpful and soothing for the stomach. if you dont have a blender to make it into a soup then you can eat it as a vegetable or mash it with some carrots or plain to eat instead of potatoes. i find them more soothing than potatoes. making it into a soup makes it easier to have it throughout the day. i have a plate of pumpkin soup upon rising (i know it sounds weird) but i am desperate by then to put something alkaline into my stomach. i have a bowl at lunch. a bowl in the afternoon with some bread as a snack and a bowl at night.

    also i had a lot of bloating and gas and if i could get rid of the gas or burped i felt some relief from the rising acid. if you have the same experience, rubbing your stomach in a clockwise direction (as that is the direction your intestines travel thru the digestive system) you will either be able to burp or let out some gas and it should bring some relief. do that often whenever you feel some burning sensation under your rib cage or on your chest especially if the heartburn wakes you up at night.i often feel that if i have a lot of gas the pressure in my stomach from the gas pushes the acid up my esophagus. if you have a problem with gas aside from rubbing your stomach do some walking. exercise even moderate alkalizes your body and helps you get rid of gas.

    do give it a try. i was desperate since medication didnt help me but consciously staying away from acid foods and eating an alkaline diet really helped.

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    Oh, I'd heart that Goat's Cheese is ok for acid reflux and wanted to try it.
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    Personally goat cheese triggers my symptoms: probably too acid and/or too fatty.

    DGL licorice is working very well for me though, it helped me get off the dexilant cold turkey.

    • Posted

      Hi Ines and everyone,

      Can you please give updates at to your condition now? And what has worked for you long term?

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    i would encourage you to try any alkaline diet and if possible eating all kinds of veg with just a little animal protein. i felt much better after 3 days. you will be encouraged by the results which might encourage you to continue. it took only 3 weeks when i felt so much better that i started reintroducing more of my favourite foods. so yu will not have to stay on a very strict diet forever, only initially. yu will have to do some trial and error of your own to see which alkaline foods suit you the most.

    give it a try.

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    Hi I haven't been here in a while so I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I had some good results with it so thought I would post about it.

    Has anyone tried Redmond Clay? Google it with acid reflux. It is used for many things and sold in a few different forms. People say it helps with AR and the reason is it has a natural high PR...among other things. Look into it. It's cheap and has lot's of other health benefits.

    I started taking it for a cleanse and noticed people talking about how it works for them in that way too. ONe thing I have also noticed is that what works for some doesn't work for everyone so you never know.

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      This Redmond clay sounds interesting.  I think I will try it.  I remember drinking clay a long time ago from the health food store.  It just mighjt help me now.  It dhould be "coating."  Thanks for suggesting it.
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    I have acid reflux for sometime and I have to say that having a strict diet of alkaline food has helped me a great deal.

    I changed the way I eat, how I eat and what I eat. All food is boiled, steamed, baked. I make compote from fruit I can not eat raw, I boil chopped apples, pears, no sugar until the fruits become soft and eat them and drink the juice. It can keep in the fridge a day or two. Also peaches and apricots go well together and they are quite good.

    I also bake apples, pears, quinces with a few sultanas wrapped in baking paper, thy are very good, no yogurt or cream though

    Raw I can only eat melon, watermelon, bananas and grapes, only a few grapes when I feel good.

    I have almost daily homemade soups with chicken stock, sometimes with noodles or just boiled vegetables. 

    It is very important to eat the right fruit and vegetables, the stomach will react instantly if you eat the wrong food.

    I also tried mastic gum but unfortunately I am allergic to it. Lots of people cured themselves of ulcers with it, it is not for me though, so I am sticking with the usual medicine.

    The diet has to be ongoing and when you feel better you can slowly introduce something new or may have a one off indugence.

    I wish you well

     

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    I have tried mastic gum too and it hurt my stomach (aloe vera and manukka honey hurt my stomach too).

    What worked for me was the alkaline, low-salt, low-fat, bland diet without irritating foods for a few months, pepzin GI twice a day, DGL licorice before the meals, slippery elm between meals and when it hurts, and raw cabbage juice whenever I had the courage.

    I am happy to say that it cured me.

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      am feeling better with the alkaline diet but still have my bad days. am not quite able to pinpoint why some days are still bad.
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      I am very glad to hear you are well and cured!

      Manuka honey hurts in the beggining but if you can manage to take it, 3 tbs a day with food which sounds a lot, it helps a great deal and heals everything.

      Yes, that is the way, low-fat, low-salt, low-fat and alkaline. I will try licorice as well and digestive enzimes are very good taken for a while.

      Thanks and take care,

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      Persist! Low fat, low salt and the right fruit and vegetables and you will feel better. Try manuka honey if you can and see how it feels for you, not everyone can take it.

      Mastic gum is another option, not for everyone though!

      The diet is crucial, so I wish you well and keep going! 

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      Just wanted to add a few more things!

      Stress, nerves are really bad for the tummy and need to find ways to calm yourself, meditating or just thinking positive and calm thoughts or take something based on herbs or plants to help you with the stress.

      Also, physical exercise should be moderate, gentle walks

      not strenuous. Losing weight is a must, if that is an issue.

      Licorice is good, have some!

      Take care,

    • Posted

      Vvvv, do you think your bad days are because of something you ate? I know that I had an almost immediate reaction every time I ate something that did not agree with me.
    • Posted

      Hi Daniela,

      I read mixed things about digestive enzymes, some people got worse with it as some can be irritating. I personnally did not try them (there are some in my multivitamins, but I had to stop them as they were making things worse).

      About Manukka honey, I read that it is good against H.Pylori because it contains tea tree essential oil. But there are medications much more efficient against H.Pylori. I took a course to learn about essential oils and the first things the teacher said is that if you are hurt or have an inflammation, essential oils are like fire, don't put them on it. Moreover Manukka honey has Ph. level 4, which is too acidic for the alkaline diet.

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      thanks for the suggestions. yes am doing more moderate exercises and trying to stay calm
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      am trying to find out what causes my bad days. maybe its the grapefruit seed extract my naturopath has prescribed. also the heartburn has stopped and it is more like a silent reflux, nearer the throat
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      I do not have H. Pylori! Thank God for that!

      Manukka honey is strong stuff but it is very good because heals everything in there! Not for everyone, though!

      There are various strengths of Manukka honey, I can not take it because it hurts me. Other people I know have healed their ulcers using Manukka honey for two months.

       

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      I have not found scientific evidence that Manukka honey heals ulcer or stomach problems, even though people seems to think that it helps with digestion in general and has a protective effect. I tried it twice, once on bread, once in my camomille tea and both times I had stomach pain for many hours afterwards. My personal philosophy is that if it hurts, it is not good and does not promote healing. One big part of my recovery was avoiding everything hurting my stomach.

      The only natural supplement which has been associated to a high rate of recovery for ulcers and stomach problems (around 80% after 2 months if I remember correctly) is pepzin GI. I take it and I am cured, but I took many other things as well and I followed an extremely strict diet so it is hard to say what exactly cured me. I think it is a mix of everything + time.

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      The grapefruit seed extract is a natural antibiotic. Are you taking it against H. Pylori? I can imagine it could be irritating.
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      Hi Ines,

      I agree with you about Manukka honey, I did not do a great deal of research about it but what I read and I know a few people myself who used it and got on very well and healed themselves. It is not for everyone, I apply the same way of thinking, if it hurts me then it is not for me. I just can not take something if it becomes painful. I want to do everything I can to get away from pain!

      PepzinGI I heard of and I will take it, as I said I need to go and see my doctor and decide together. I am on a very strict diet, too! I am having cabbage juice, I can not say I like it but it helps.

       

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      I love Manuka honey. I had to stop it because we found out I have a honey sensitivity. I may add it back in soon but I think it may have raised my insulin levels a lot. 

      I can't do DGL because of licorice sensitivity and it never helped me anyway. Digestive enzymes didn't help either. Evamore PH water helps a lot and it's the only PH water that I've tried that works. 

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      I cannot do licroice either because of high blood pressure problems which it causes me.
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      The problems with blood pressure come from regular licorice not DGL licorice

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