First Rib Resection for TOS

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Has anyone had this surgery and had a good recovery? If so how long did it take, do you feel normal, and are you restricted at all?

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    I had this done on 6/23/16. It took me YEARS to diagnose. I switched Primary Care Doctors and he was so super excellent he sent me to the Physiatrist for ECGs, Xrays where it was obvious. Only left side has been problematic. No feeling and chronic INCREDIBLE pain. My PCP put me on Lyrica 200mg 3x daily... This was the ONLY way I could have made it through to surgery. I used Tiger Balm Patches (stinky) or Lidocaine that actually helped topically on my neck area. Physical Therapy was a waste of time. My Vascular Surgeon is MY ULTIMATE HERO!!! Dr. Kaj Johansen. He is AMAZING!!! He got me on the cutting room floor in good time. Surgery went flawless. I was in the hospital one night with the pain pump. I couldn't stop giggling... if you have never had this before, it is the wildest feeling EVER. Think dead arm... I would get up to go to the bathroom and leave my arm behind. I'd have to pick it up an shove it back in it's sling with my other hand. Other than that, recovery has been going well. I started school, 1/2 day, 4 days out of the hospital if this helps you with timing. I didn't feel great but it's doable. I can ALREADY say that this is LIFE ALTERING! I can't blow dry my hair yet but I can raise my arm over my shoulder. Woopie!!! Life's little accomplishments. Still in a bit of pain but I also have Psoriatic Arthritis so I'm a hot mess already. Happy Surg!
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      Just a few questions for you. I am getting surgery 1/5/17 and they were very vague on telling me about recovery. They are removing my first rib because it is cutting off all blood flow to my fingers. I am currently very active and was wondering how long it took you to start moving and get off the pain meds? Luckily I am on break for uni and won't have to worry about school for a few weeks but when will I be able to drive as well as write since it is my right (dominant) arm. When were you able to start doing physical therapy?

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      I was in school also. 4-5 days I had off and was back in class. The pain meds (I've had to go through detox before) I weened off of quickly. I have tramadol and lyrica that are my preference but, definately at times (usually at the end of day I'd have to pop a pill). My surgeon even suggested taking one before PT to help push me. That was also good advice. Not sure if I shared on THIS post but my surgeon also gave me an excerise that helped tremendously for reach. Take your fingers and crawl up the wall like a spider with your hand. Day after day I was able to raise my arm up higher and higher!

      So, driving.... let me give you some advice/advance notice on that. I had to shut my driver door with my right arm. I had surgery in the left. Sharp turns are a little more work because you will need to compensate for strength. I would need to turn on my turn signals and turn on head lights by akwardly reaching with my right hand. I STILL need to turn on lights this way. I'm SOOOO much better especially with the pain... GOOD GOD the PAIN was SO EXCRUTIATING... but, yes, there are minor things like this that don't function quite so well yet. It's the turning motion and grip that gets me. I don't feel so well in that hand most days so things like putting in earrings with backs to them, sometimes hooking necklaces (but that's hard as a healthy person too, lol) and zipping up my jacket can require some manouvering. There are also days that I forget I have problems, so all in all... good things.

      Physical therapy you can start right away... or as soon as you feel up to it. It IS surgery so your body will take a hit. Give yourself the time your body is telling you to recover. I live by myself. My mom came for the first day or 2, but I was up and doing for myself pretty quickly. I'm also active and ADHD, so sitting/laying around is irritating to me. It is good to push yourself, so if you feel you can take it, do it. Know when to stop. You'll learn that point yourself if your anything like me. If that takes some pain meds... well, do it. As for writing, I don't write with my left hand but I'm pretty ambidextrous. When you go for physical therapy tell them that this is important. It's a strength and muscle control problem at this point for me. My hand is numb but I have a good grip but fine detail may take awhile. You may have some crazy handwriting for a while.

      Let your professors know. I did. I do. I also have Psoriatic Arthritis specifically in my hands so I have problems anyway. There is Dragon speach recognition software that has come to amazing levels. Another option, that I took, was to get a new computer (I needed one anyway). I got the surface pro. Its touch screen, detachable so it turns into a pad, it has a stylus. It's perfect and has helped tremendously. I also contacted my Office for Student Services. They have students (I do this when asked) that will share their handwritten class notes with you. They just bring them to the office every week, scan them and email them to you. If you don't have this option... try asking someone in class to photocopy their notes for you. It's okay to ask for help.... so I'm LEARNING! Took me WAY too long to use the resources available. You can also (provided you get proper promission) record audio or full video of lectures with your computer.

      Sorry I didn't report back sooner, I just moved. I hope surgery went well for you. Hopefully you're past all the ick. Sorry about the spelling. it's late for me. Working on school... smile Love to hear your progress. My surg was 3/27/17 so I may be some insight into what your in for.

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      Recovery is quite quick the younger the better just remember to keep moving you will have a stiff neck and will need to turn your whole body to just look around but it don't last long I've had removal three times now so I'm used to it plus I've had ribs removed from my back 

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      How did it go? My daughter had surgery on February 28th and still has numbness in her fingers.
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    Dear all,

    thank you so much for starting a discussion about a positive recovery! All I've read are horror stories, and I thought ones who did well didn't write about it on the Internet. I hope Emily 8596 is doing well!

    my husband is getting his first rib resection on 1/18/17.

    its been quite a journey for him: diagnosed with Paget Schroderers last August, after suffering a blood clot in the left arm. The blood clot surgery gave him accute kidney failure! Very rare and bizarre apparently. He is well now, and did not need dialysis. He is understandably worried something might happen again that is bizzare and rare! 

    I am am trying to prepare to make him comfortable to recover, and I really appreciate again the tone of this thread. Hopefully we will be able to report good things in 2 weeks time. If anyone has more advice for recovery please post. Thank you!

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      Hope your husbands surgery goes well. I'm rooting for him! I just posted some of my post surg advice to emily. Maybe this helps. Feel free to ask me any questions as they come. They WILL come. lol I believe much of recovery is attitude and I was very determined, riddled with other health issues. Discipline is HUGE. You are going to have to be his cheerleader when he gets frustrated. He's lucky to have you. It's so encouraging to see that you're so involved. I love that. Props to you!!! Good Luck and Speedy Recovery!

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    Hi seth2940. I had my first op in Southampton General hospital when I was 12 I'm 49 now ,I've got two extra cervical ribs and had my right hand side removed twice and left once as they don't tell you they regrow ,I then had my first and second ribs removed Tommy back under my scapula which I can say don't ever have done I can't tel you how painful it is,,,you do notice a difference when you have them removed but the more ops you have the more problems you get with day to day problems ,I've now got a prolapsed disc between c5 c6 and arthritis ,hope this helps you and if you want to know anything else I'll be pleased to help I'm also female 

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    I've had both sides operated on and my right cervical rib removed twice ,my first op was 1981,82,83 and then I had my first and second ribs removed from my back ,I would say it honestly don't take long to get over the operation a week or so but you just need to keep moving ,these days you would most probably have physio which I never had ,oh and by the way the ribs do regrow ,mine have grown back and I'm having problems again ,I wouldn't advice anyone having the ribs removed from back as it's the worst pain but I was running around within a week ,it's been a long time and I'm now 49 ,I still get some pain in my arms and haven't been able to throw without locking muscles in my neck for years ,my arms still go numb and paralysed whilst asleep ,hope this is of use to you

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    i am one week post op, it has gone very well for me. I was smiling after waking up from surgery, walked a bit up and down the hall that same night, was released the next day and am doing everything I need to (tho still taking it a little easy).  There is still pain but it has shifted - I am sore - as would be expected - and there is numbness around the armpit that I hadn't expected.  the hospital staff told me i bounced back quicker than most. i feel like the pain after surgery is minimal compared to the pain I had before!

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    Hi I had first rib resection in scalenectomy. It was one week ago The moment I woke up I knew something was different and in a good way so my surgeon saw me after and told me it was a success and he was very happy I just have to go in in one month to get my vein checked to make sure that it's clear so I had pagette Schroeder syndrome which is a bit more of a rare form of TOS. Nonetheless if you have a surgeon you feel you can trust I think it's worth going for because the relief I already have from having my rib removed in the scalene's cut I just don't feel that tightness in my neck and the pressure and the soreness near the vein in my arm. Anyway yes I am still on painkillers and healing but hoping for the best if anyone has any questions feel free !! smile

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    Hello all, I am 2 years out from my resection and everything has been great. But now I am experiencing some pain and tightness in my R arm again. They cut the bundle of nerves and I usually have no feeling under my arm, so this is a little concerning. Does anyone know the probability of returning DVT after resection?

    Thank you

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    (sorry for the essay)

    I had a right first rib resection about 3 and half weeks ago for neurogenic TOS . Just a little background: it was quite a journey getting diagnosed, approved for the surgery, on top of constant struggling with my insurance company but I finally got it scheduled. My symptoms included searing pain from my neck, under my collarbone (where the worst pain was) and down my arm to my fingers as well as occasional numbness. This had been going on for years and I had actually had a biceps tenodesis surgery because that's what a shoulder specialist though it was (obviously it wasn't). One day as I was hanging clothes, my arm went completely numb and just fell limp at my side which is when I went to a nueorlogist who directed me to a Thoracic Specialist at NY Presbyterian/Columbia Medical.

    Anyway, when the surgeon went in he said it was much worse than he had anticipated as everything was so tightly compacted together in the area that he ended up taking out the entire rib (some people only get a portion of the rib removed) a few muscles and ligaments too. I'm not going to sugarcoat this because we're all adults here... no one could have prepared me for the kind of pain I felt coming out of surgery. Now, I'm not new to pain (I've had 4 previous surgeries, broken numerous bones, etc...) but it was so bad that I could not move any part of my body. They could not lift the back of the hospital bed at all as I would scream in pain at the slightest movement. I was on the highest dose of IV dilauded and even with that, I couldn't eat, sleep, breath, I could barely blink without pain. I would wake up every hour screaming

    Even though you are normally sent home the next day, I spent 9 days in the hospital. As it turns out, I had multiple post-op complications. It started with a hematoma (an abnormal collection of blood outside of a blood vessel from a burst capillary, blood vessel, artery, etc..) which was compressing my lung making it very painful to take in air. Then I got pneumonia in my lung that was making it very hard to breathe. And then the kicker, I had a Pericardial Effusion (excess fluid between the heart and the sac surrounding the heart). Now normally, this isn't a big deal and sometimes doesn't have any harmful effect on you but because my body was in such rough shape, my heart was effected. 

    I would go into tachycardia (heart beat over 100 bpm) every time I stood up. Every time I would stand up right my heart rate would spike from 80 to about 150 in a matter of seconds. I was seen by about 10 cardiologists at the hospital who couldn't agree on a plan to combat this as they weren't sure if it was being caused by the fluid around my heart or something else. I had so many tests done within that week and still no concrete answer.

    They finally decided to drain the fluid around my heart with a chest tube but then decided against it at the last moment as I was in pretty rough shape and it was too risky because they weren't sure how thick the fluid was and if it would drain well. They then told me that I would just have to take it easy and that I can't be alone as of now as they're not sure if my tachycardia could cause something more dangerous. To this day, every time I stand up my heart rate skyrockets.

    I'm only 20 and will have to see a cardiologist twice a year from now on because of this mystery.

    There's still a lot of pain but nothing like before. Half of my arm is still completely numb from the nerve damage. There is still some fluid around my lung which makes it a little harder to breathe but it is slowly clearing up. Every time I cough or sneeze, it feels like someones taking a bat to my rib cage.I realize I'm only about a month out of surgery so nothing is set in stone as of now. I expect (and hope) a lot of these symptoms will subside eventually. 

    Even though this process, surgery and recovery was an absolute nightmare, it will all have been completely worth it if it can get rid of the pain I was experiencing before. The goal of this post is not to scare people away from this surgery, it's to let you know that it's not a black and white procedure. Granted these complications only happen to a very small percentage of people, they can still happen and while the post-op pain was brutal, it's not forever and I would do it again if I had to. 

    Side note: thank you so much for creating this forum. It feels really good to have people know what living with TOS is like and to not feel so alone dealing with it. smile

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      Hey zoe128 I am trying to get the surgery for my TOS could you possibly tell me where you got it done and how much it cost you 
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    4 weeks ago I had a rib resection. It was the worse pain I've ever felt. And today, 4 weeks later, I am still taking pain meds and the incision site is sensitive and occasionally throbs.  I can't wait until I can start living a normal life again. At this point, I am doing PT and contemplating making an appointment with the pain clinic.

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      HI! 

      Hoping to find out how your recovery has gone. I have a first rib resecc and scalenectomy for Venos TOS about 4 week ago. I had it done through a transaxillary approach. Like many others I started with chronic neck and upper back pain on my left side years ago. Always putting it down to numerous falls I had and some mild degenerative disk disease in ny neck. However over the past year and a half the Pain was chronic, constant and spread down my arm into my hand creating numbness. I finally couldn’t take it anymore. After numerous doctors over a year, every test I could imagine it was actually a PT I was assigned to who truly took the time to consider my problem and told me to find a dr who specializes in TOS. I did just that and within a month was diagnosed with Venos TOS. I was so happy I wasn’t crazy I actually was pleased and smiled when he told me. Little did I know what the surgery was going to be like. I have had 6 other surgeries in my life for other things, I thought I knew the drill. Anesthesia sucks for me, I don’t react well and usually after a day or two in hospital get released, feel miserable at home for a week or two, the. Back on my feet and recovered. This time I was wrong. I have never experienced or could have imagined the pain. I really thought I was going  To die. The only narcotic that slightly touched the pain was Dilaudid and that frankly didn’t cut it. I was in the hospital 5 days before I was some what kicked out after they told me there was nothing else they could do to help...... that’s a whole other story. I am 4 weeks post surgery and still not functioning well. I am still on Dilaudid, Motrin and gabapentin; however switching to lyrica as with the dose they put my on the had terrrible neurological side effects and was an emotional wreck. I am making slow progress but was not expecting this. I start physical therapy next week, but there is no way I can drive or work at the moment. I am in a lot of nerve pain, I ache, have no appetite, and am exhausted. Does anyone have a similar story they can share with some tips and maybe a light at the end of this tunnel ? So nice to know I am not alone! Thanks Kelly 

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      Hi Kelly. Your not alone. I am nearly two years since op on both sides. Numbness in both hands and burning pain from neck down both arms. No medication helps. Consultants still doing tests. I am so depressed. Still can't work. Shopping is a nightmare. It's like my nerves are trapped from neck all the way down both arms. Cannot keep hold of things with out dropping them. Constant battle with doctors and hospital to find out why.

      So you are not alone. Sorry to say

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      Hi kelly, to give you a short to the point answer. Everything your feeling is exactly how I felt so really try not to worry trust me. Anesthesia Sucked for me to, I was in hosp for 5 days I was also told see the physical therapy guy I could not get up without going to pass out the dizziness was unreal I didn’t see him until 2 solid months after op. I was also “shoved” out of hospital I couldn’t really believe it all it wasn’t really dealt with properly, in the end I had had enough of the crap service tbh and done everything in my power just to get home. Killed me. Brutal operation I’ve had previous ops this one you can’t prepare for. The only advice I can give to you is seriously take it easy don’t over stretch or rush into things but make it a ruteen to do your exercises to keep everything loose you don’t wanna stiffen up. Your only 4 weeks now, I felt like absolute **** for months. I didn’t think it had worked my neck was stiff as a board I couldn’t get out of the house without going to pass out. Everything fades SLOWLY. Months went by i knew something was different but I was all stiff and didn’t know if it had worked, untill the 7th month like a miracle I was all better. Give it time you’ll be alright trust me, this ops brutal. I’d do it all over again because now i have no pain at all I was a very symptomatic patient worst case, now I feel no pain like I’m born again. May seem difficult atm to see a light at the end of the tunnel but I assure you there is one. Jay
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      Sorry to hear about your rough recovery! Glad to know that even through that all you now say you would do it all over again ! Hope I am the same way and the pain gradually subsides. Thank you for taking the time to respond , it is just nice to know your not alone. Thanks Kelly
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      Hi Wendy, thank you for taking the time to reply. I am so sorry to hear about your struggle. Really seems like sometime drs don’t really care and people don’t understand how much this can affect your life or your living. I hope that soon they are able to intervene and find a solution to your continued pain. I can’t imagine 2 years like this ! Thank you and best wishes, Kelly
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      Hi Kelly. Many thanks for your kind words. Only people what have or going this no what is like.

      Everybody have a different stages they go threw and recovery. And I am sure you will recover . But take your time don't rush things after op. I think this was my problem. Keep us all updated with your journey to recovery. 👍

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      Jay you're an inspiration to us all! I hope I can feel born again, pain free, like you one day.

      ?It's been 6 weeks now since I had my left first rib resection. I thought by now the pain would be going down a little bit. Gabapentin and Lyrica didn't work for me, now I have muscle spasms in addition to the nerve pain. 

      I know what you mean about stiffening up. I feel a tugging whenever I move the arm and my neck is still stiff too. I have full range of motion, it just takes me a while to get my arm moved all the way. I can thank my physical therapist for that, she never let me stop moving my arm.

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      Hello , if anyone else is reading this you do get over the pain you just need to be careful not to over stretch ,I had my right cervical rib removed twice and left once then I had my first and second rib removed from my back which is so painful it's worse that all the ops I've had , I'm not too bad now but it's been a long time had my last op in 1995 when I was 16 ,,so what makes it worse : throwing a ball , ironing , hoovering ,sneezing ,etc painting ceilings or looking up and trying to keep arms up for long periods ,I can go on , get a good pillow only one tho , I live in England and I'm sure everyone on here are from America

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      Hi mike, thanks for that. I do try, haha. But it’s all the truth. Yes your only 6 weeks it’s still early days mate everyone’s different it took me untill 7 months to feel different. And now it’s brilliant I cannot believe how I feel. I still need my left side done, I’m dreading it, but now I know what to expect and it is worth it in the end. Yeah I had full range but slowly I couldn’t shower properly for weeks on end. It’ll all come together it’s a very slow process. The neck stiffness fades also that took the longest. Make sure you keep up with your exercises daily and keep dosed up on whatever works for you. I was on paracetamol like 3 times a day that worked for me. Hope you’ll be healed soon and up and about smile Jay 

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