For the last 4-5 years I have had pain in both knees, especially when walking down hill, stairs

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Both knees make a grinding noise and when you lay your hand on them you can feel knees crunching. If I am on my feet too long my knees are really painful, sometimes I even wake up from my sleep as I have moved a certain way and I get pain in my knees. I struggle when walking down hill especially. I cannot bend or kneel down and I find it difficult to do things with my 3 grandchildren, I am only 49. I have been to doctor who sent me for xray's and when nothing showed up I was then sent for a scan. The doctor refused to carry out the scan as she said that getting a scan usually meant surgery and I would not want to have that. She advsied me to find a form of excersice that would help. This was about 2 year ago and to be honest I just put up with the pain now and accept it as this is how it will be from now on. Can anyone help with some advice on this.

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    I really think you need to have a MRI scan to find the cause of the problem .
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    Hi Gail it could actually be your hips not your knee.

    This could be referred pain, I'm told this is what mine is and it is really bad, I have had xrays and MRI and that's what I'm told, I also get the noise and can feel the knee grinding and moving when I put my hand on it so can Dr

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    Hi Gail.

    You de need an X ray with your Knee Bent (As is shows what is happening when coming down stairs) and and MRI Scan. This sounds exactly the same as my problem. I am 48 years old. My Knee caps had worn away allowing Ostio Arthritis Hence the grinding noise. I also had no cartlidge left. I was told by my surgeon that it is quite common in women or age.

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      Thanks fot taking time to reply Colette I really appreciate it, the doctor also told me that the symptoms I had were very common in females. I am very frustrated with it all, after your advise I am going to go back to my doctor again. Thank you
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    My xray said nothing too. When I did my mri, it appeared I have internal meniscus cut and degenerative meniscus behind the cap. That's why it keeps clicking every single time I bend it. I am 23 and honestly dunno why it happened except perhaps wrong sitting positions. I have it only in the right knee. It pains me 24/7. One dr advised me for plasma injections to stimulate meniscus growth. If you have no problem with the bones, your xray will say you have no problem at all. X-rays only show bones but not the ligaments and the meniscus. Those shown on mri

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    Hi Gail, you can have smaller ops than a tkr, I was around your age when I had my first arthroscopy-- some cartilage had broken off and jammed in my knee joint while I was out shopping. I had had grating and pain in my knees for a few years even at that age. I had it removed and the surgeon said there was very little cartilage left, and I would probably end up in the same situation again.

    After that, my knees just got worse, and the telling thing is I couldn't walk downhill and got quite frightened about falling, to the point where I would go out of my way to avoid steep streets.

    Right knee then started dislocating, I could get in car, knee was out, I had to get out and stand on it so it went back in, this happened quite regularly.

    I went to GP who sent me to specialist physio, she gave me a steroid injection, and informed me I would need a replacement, I was shocked -- don't know why, think I was in denial! 

    I had a TKR, all went well and thank goodness I could bend my knee again, hadn't realised quite how badly I was limping before op.

    other knee then got worse, and I had a microfracture arthroscopy which worked for a year. That may be what they would do with you. Google it, it was really good at relieving pain and wasn't that bad to recover from. Another thing they can do is during arthroscopy the inject in a fluid that is like silicone and let's your knee slide over and make it easier to move.

    I have since had other knee replaced and my walking is much better.

    This all happened over a period of several years, so they can keep you going until the inevitable replacement.

    Try to get your gp to refer you to an orthopaedic surgeon. He will over ride all the others.

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      Hi Laura,

      Thank you for taking time to reply and share your experience's, your points have been really helpful and I now have an appointment to go back to my GP to see what they will say this time.

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    How long .can you stand for? How many minutes can you walk for? Do you use a stick? Have to had individually tailored physiotherapy? Are you overweight? Might be time for another Xray.
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      Hi Jenny,

      I can stand for a while but my knees ache, I can walk for about 20-25mins then my knee starts to click and ache. I had physiotherpy a few years back but made no difference. Thanks for your reply.

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      I would suggest asking to be referred to specialist services...probably would be to an extended scope physiotherapist for opinion I should think..also lose weight if that is a factor...if BMI over 35 or even 30 this can stand in your way a bit. I had to really push to get to see an orthopaedic surgeon, as NHS very stretched, so the more you do the better. Definately worth Xray I think.
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