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Has anyone got any advice on how to stop FS in my other arm. I had FS in my left arm May 2016, ACR and MUA done in Aug 2017 with great results and almost back to 100% but now my right shoulder is sore and going down the same path as the left but now I realize what it is. Has anyone been able to stop it turning into FS again?
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Hems06 Dee1963
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Dee1963 Hems06
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Hems06 Dee1963
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maria58274 Dee1963
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I started with my second frozen shoulder this spring . I was rather late in getting my first one diagnosed, as I didn't know what it was and thought it was something that would go away on it's own. By the time I went to the doctor, I'd suffered months of pain, was badly frozen and couldn't sleep. To cut a long story short, I ended up having hydrodilatation. This stopped the pain withing 2 days but because I had lost so much ROM, it took a few months for my ROM to come back. I considerd this a success and vowed to go back to the consultant at a much earlier stage, should it happen again.
I started with the familiar pain in my other shoulder in spring and got to the point where I couldn't sleep on that side and I was starting to have difficulty, fastening my bra, putting up my hair, etc. I decided to get back to my consultant, as soon as I could. He said I had done the right thing and was happy to recommend a hydrodilatation on the shoulder. The consultant, the doctor who performed the procedure and the physiotherapist I saw later, all seem convinced that this should stop the frozen shoulder from progressing further. That was 5 weeks ago and so far, so good. I have no more pain - just a little tightness at the extreme of my movement, which is almost back at 100%. It's relatively early days but I'm hopeful that this will be an end to it. I've seem my physio 3 times and the last time she told me to keep up the excercises at home and come back in a month - so fingers crossed.
If this is an option for you, I'd certainly consider it. I certainly wouldn't have considered MUA or any other surgical option but to me this seemed a less invasive option. It seems to have worked well for me. Good luck and I hope you can find some relief.
Dee1963 maria58274
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paul_65670 maria58274
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Hi Maria, I really sympathise with you about your 2nd FS. I did post on here a message to you last October 2016 as I had a frozen left shoulder and was contemplating hydrodilitation. At the time my shoulder had been freezing for about 3 months, but my physio thought it was a rotator cuff injury , so by the time I saw the specialist and had the FS diagnosed , I had been through months of pain and severe lack of movment. However, I had the hydrodilitation in mid Oct last year, after 5 days of intense pain from the procedure, which I think I had a bad reaction to,the pain subsided rapidly. By Nov 16 most of the pain had gone altogether, I just had restricted movement. By January 17 my movement was coming back quite quickly and by April 17 I had 90 % movement and was back to playing Tennis every week. However, during early July this year I was beginning to feel pain in my other (right ) shoulder. If I hadn't had a FS before I wouldn't have recognised these pains , but once you've had a FS you know what the signs are. Over the last 6 weeks the pain has only been at the very end of range of movement , however in the last few days I have noticed that my moment range is beginning to reduce almost daily and I get that horrible shuddering , lingering pain if I move it to far in certain directions.
I see that you too have developed a FS in your other side and wanted some advice. At the moment , I am nowhere near as bad as my other shoulder was when I saw the specialist and had the hydrodilitation last time. I'm certainly not at the fully frozen stage yet and my movement is much greater than with my last shoulder at this time. Do you think having a hydrodilitation at this stage would prevent the FS from progressing to the more severe pain stages and restricted movement? Did you have to have another MRI before having the hydrodilitation? My specialist said last time that you can only have one hydrodilitation per shoulder , otherwise you risk damaging the surrounding tissues too much. I don't want to have the procedure done too early if I should wait til later in the Frozen stage for a better result. As per last time I would be greatful for any feedback you can give. Thank you.
maria58274 paul_65670
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When I had my first frozen shoulder, I'd had a few slight twinges in my other shoulder and the consultant said if it did develop into a frozen shoulder to come back as soon as possible, as the earlier the treatment is done, the better. Those twinges went away (they came and went a few times after) until eventually this year when it became obvious that I was developing a second frozen shoulder. I waited a while, hoping it would go away and when it was obvious it wouldn't, I went to see the consultant. He confirmed it was a frozen shoulder (he uses ultrasound) and said I'd done the right thing in coming to him early. I hadn't lost too much ROM but it was getting painful to fasten my bra, do my hair, etc (sorry, very girlie examples) and I was starting to get some of those awful pains on knocking or jerking my arm.
I had my second hydrodilatation in mid June. It went very well and within a couple of days, I was out of pain. I've been seeing a really good physiotherapist, who knows exactly what it's like, as she has had a frozen shoulder herself! She's given me some exercises to ensure my shoulder stays mobile and to strengthen the muscles. I have pretty much 100% ROM, just a little tightness at the extreme. I could probably stop seeing her and continue to do the exercises at home but she has helped a lot and also with my poor posture and tendency to get a stiff neck. I'm careful not to overdo things or lift too heavy weights - but feeling pretty confident that the frozen shoulder won't return.
As far as I understand it, the earlier you have it done the better - at a later more frozen stage, it should still help (certainly in relieving pain) but may take longer to regain any lost ROM. I've also read somewhere on here of consultants (I think it might have been in Australia) who routinely carry out 2 procedures, 6 weeks apart. It doesn't seem the norm in the UK but I believe it can be done a second time on the same shoulder. As for the pain you experienced after the procedure, it may be that you had a bad reaction to the cortisone (though i read somewhere that it is unlikely) or it could be some other component of the injection - possibly the anaesthetic. It might be worth checking with the consultant, as there could be alternatives.
It's almost 3 months since my procedure now and I'm certainly not regretting it. I remember the pain, sleepless nights and lack or ROM the first time round and am very hopeful that I've (hopefully) managed to prevent much of that, second time round. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
paul_65670 maria58274
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Thanks for that very useful information. I'm now going to call the specialist and get him to take a look ASAP. Then hopefully I might avert the worst part of the FS coming on before I lose all my ROM and have the very painful sleepless nights etc.
Oliveria Dee1963
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Unfortunately doctores dont know how to solve it, you have to go through this yourself and read a lot to understand all implications of adhesive capsulitis or in your case frozen shoulder.