frozen shoulders

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I am a 76 year old lady who developed two frozen shoulders after trimming the hedge with an electric trimmer about 5 months ago. Having read all the comments on this Forum, found 'Frosty's' 'helpful hints' full of common sense and by far the most helpful...thank you Frosty! This person obviously fully understands the frozen shoulder syndrome. On seeing my GP, I refused cortisone injections as I read these were not always successful, and could be damaging. After waiting a while for physio, was disappointed to hear him say, 'there was nothing he could do, and he didn't have ultrasound equipment...even if he advocated it...which he didn't'. Pain led me to seek another opinion with a private physiotherapist. She not only advocated ultrasound, but also had the equipment. Every session freed up the joints a little. Some weeks were better than others, but there was progress. Had a set back when an unruly dog nearly knocked me over, causing me to shoot up my 'good' arm. The pain was excruciating. After several physio sessions, this helped, but not as good as it was. I do sympathise with all sufferers...keep persevering and don't lose hope!

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    Just one last thing to add:

    Dressing! Dressing can be a torture. Learn how to avoid those acute pains when dressing, like putting your shirt on, etc. Get someone to help you if you can. But do this ASAP. Don't torture yourself, because you may also tear the tendon if you don't take care getting dressed.

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    Hi Yervand - doesn't look like anyone in the profession recommended Hydrodilitation to you either! It seems to be frozen shoulder's best kept secret and it does concern me that more doctors/physios aren't suggesting it to their patients. So glad that my physio did. There is no need to suffer - the effects are immediate and I was back at body pump (lifting 10-15KG above my head) within 3 weeks, swimming again after 3 days. Pain all gone after 3 days.
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    Thank you Yervand,

    Most helpful info. I did try most of what you advocate, except the tens machine. If the pain ever gets as bad as it first did, then I will certainly try this.

    Do hope your recovery continues positively.

    Chickabee

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    @ChristineT52

    Hi, I did read about it during 1st FS, but was hesitant, because, it is invasive and I don't think my orthopedic surgeon thought I needed it. I live in Portugal and is probably not too common. From what I read, it does seem to give some help in most cases. But, there is a but, it does seem costly, and not widely available. So, for those whom can't afford, or have access, they have to try other methods.

    @chickabee

    i forgot to mention, that TENS devices range in price from Amazon from 30£ on up. You should get one with an A/C adaptar to not use only batteries. A average good one will go for about 60-100. Mine cost 90 and it has about 20 diiferent programs. And I just switch in between the programs, and adjust accordingly. One bit of caution - Don't place the electrodes exactly on the location of most pain; nearby is fine.

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    Hi Yervand, thanks a lot for all your advice, just wondering why you dont advice to take calcium. My doctor just recomend me to take more calcium and Vitamin D.

    Thanks

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    Hi Chickabee, thanks a lot for your response. I was just wondering if Im the only one suffering of this frozen hip. My doctor never diagnose me with it. Somebody ask me what my problem was, so I told her the all story, she told me most likely it was adhesive capsulitis of the hip, since herself suffer this condition in both hips, so is kind of scary to me, since I cry everyday with mine. I dont think I can handle a second one. My question to you, if you think you actually had or have frozen hip or something else, do you have all the symptoms like the frozen sholder suffered, like limited rotation, extreme pain, tendonitis, sinovitis, etc…How long take or is taking you to resolve?

    Thanks a lot, for your nice response, it really helps me a lot. I just feel like nobody really understand me, everyone trying to tell you what your problem is and how to fix it without even knowing. I understand they are nice just trying to help, but that makes you feel even worst.

    Is just so depressing and debilitating I just want to hide from everyone, since everyone ask, how are you doing now? you dont know what to answer anymore.

    Well, thanks a lot and hope everyone will be good pretty soon.

    Hugs for everyone in this froum, suffering this terrible condition.

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    Hi Judith84

    I have been a heavy user of multi vitamins and supplements over the years.

    And in my research, I read that taking calcium and vitamin D supplements may actually be harming us (our shoulders). I am not a specialist on any of these topics, but just from reading about the Magnesium advocates, I started thinking that just maybe these guys are right.

    Remember, we have nothing to lose! So for the last 3 weeks, I have been off my mega doses of multivitamins & supplements and increased my uptake of magnesium (there are many types of magnesium, and the cheaper kinds from the supermarkets are not as well recommended).

    And I can say, whether it is coincidental or not, I have been better these last 10 days. I actually think that I am starting to "thaw" after only 4 months of suffering pain.

    Again, we are like guinea pigs almost to this plague so it doesn´t hurt to try around.

    One final thing, our body make-ups, ages, physical conditions are all different.

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    Christine T52

    Well I have my name in for this procedure. I am nervous. How much does it hurt on scale of 1-10? The Dr wants to put cortisone in while they are there. What do you think? I have only been frozen for about 3 months but had lots of pain since Aug. leading up to it from bad ergonomics with my mouse. My job is typing all day and my workplace did not modify my typing at all when I returned after a month and half off. I don't have much pain unless i use the arm too much or I move it out of my range but do have shooting pains when I don't take nerve meds. Also sleeping is painful without meds. I am very frustrated. The Dr I am seeing has only referred 5 patients for this procedure and had 3 successes. Did you have much discomfort after procedure. How long until you were pain free with movement? Sorry for so many questions but I think you can help me answer them lol

    Thanks

    Sandy

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    I have been off work for 6weeks with f/s but my gp says it sounds like it but it cannot be it because I have it in both shoulders. I have had Diazepam for 2 weeks but not continuious weeks. they put me on Naproxon when begged for pain relief and thinking the tablets would work straight away, but only they did not work for about 5 days, in the meantime took iburprofen and paracetamol. I have never felt pain like this before! The pain is worst at night and even though have had codiene which is what am on now it does not even touch it. I am going for a ultra scan in a few weeks to hopefully see what it is. but am hoping to go back to work after that. I went for an injection to be told I had to be assessed but it was too painful to even move my arms. From reading these posts I know it is frozen shoulder and I hope there is an end in sight. I had a week of to start with from work and then went back as felt better, but realised it was a mistake as the pain was too much. I work in a kitchen and even just moving a pan of water was impossible. I hope you all on here get better soon.
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      Just read your post from a year ago. If you don't mind responding, did anything finally work? Did you get your range of motion back and are pain-free?
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    Hi Carol (124345)

    It sounds like your frozen shoulder came on with excessive repetitive strain on your shoulder from working in the kitchen. A friend who had the same probable cause as you (she was a Chinese cook), told me that she had to eventually give up her work in the kitchen, as it became too painful. She kept returning on and off to see if she could carry on, but it got worse with the same stress she was under shooshing and lifting heavy pans on the hob. Mine came on with using a hedge cutter...in both shoulders. I know I shall never risk using the hedge cutter again...too fearful of that awful pain. Mine has settled to the point of 'no pain with no movement', but there is always pain when pushing beyond the point of pain, so I don't overstretch. Be reassured though, that things do improve with rest and gentle exercises. Small steps! Do read all the messages on this site...they are most helpful. I hope you do better with perseverence.

    Chickabee

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    Hi all. I am scheduled for hydrodilitation on thursday afternoon. Cant say I am really looking forward to it but my consultant has great faith in the procedure and Christine T52`s posts have given me hope. I will let you all know how it goes, good or bad. I have follow up PT next tuesday and hopefully I can say goodbye to this wretched condition as at the moment the pain killers are barely scratching the surface! Good luck everyone with whatever treatment you decide on. Speak soon.

    Mymaude

  • Posted

    Well Chickabee,

    One thing we do know is that you do not have frozen shoulders. You like me are far too old to have this condition.

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    Well James80413,

    I don't know what makes you think I am 'too old' to have FS. A little research will show you this is not so. If I do not have FS, then my doctor and two physiotherapists must have mis-diagnosed....in that case I'd be a happy bunny!

    Chickabee

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    Mymaude

    How did your hydrdilation go?

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