fungal infections

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Does anyone have problems with fungal infections and if so how do you deal with it?

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    Damaged skin is more prone to fungal infections so its important to be careful and keep on top of them. If you cut your sugar intake to a minimum it really helps. Keep the area very clean and as cool as possible - moist heat is a wonderful environment for fungal infections. I find the odd treatment with an over-the - counter thrush cream is useful at the first sign of extra soreness and itching, especially in the hot weather, as its only too easy to confuse an LS flare-up with thrush. Try using your steroid cream at night and the thrush cream in the morning and the daytime (depending on the instructions) just for a few days to see if there's any improvement. Personally I don't take the internal thrush tablets as I think its a local rather than a systemic problem and you don't want to disturb your internal gut flora.If you get the LS under control you'll find there is less problem with fungal infection as the damaged skin heals.
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    hi doreen

    i was wondering if you meant vaginal fungal infections or athletes foot or something else?

    either way i have great news for you....VIRGIN coconut oil is specific. it is a powerful anti fungal anti viral agent...it wiil also de-active small growths such as the start of those brownish spots that can appear here and there on the body. its anti carcinogenic if you swallow it regularly and has even proved successful in the treatment of alzeheimers......RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    love marey x

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      Thank you Marey regarding the info on the coconut oil.  I used to add the oil to my breakfast meal and got out of the habit.  It happens.  Better to put it back in.  
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      welcome hanny! thank you very much for this...how interesting...was it recommended by your naturopath?.

      further to taking the oil...and very glad you like it....its great for building our medium chain fatty acids too. its the only product i use for frying and stir frys now....another fantastically good thing it can be used for is oil pulling. tbf tomsbestfriend is also using it....she must have a very enlightened dentist. if you like coconut oil in the morning then holding a blob in your mouth for as long as poss before swilling and spitting it out may attract the night's built up toxins and offer a way out of the body for them. its an ancient practice, popular abroad, thats making a come back!

      what else do you have for breakfast hanny? am very interested in breakfasts at the mo....usually don't fancy...are you gluten free?

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      Yes, adding coconut oil to my breakfast was a suggestion made by my naturepath.  The suggestion of holding some coconut oil in the mouth for a while etc. I didn't know about.  

      My breakfast has to be gluten free. Which has made a great impact on the better functioning of my bowels.  Adding the colustrum helped as well.  After many years of using synthetic thyroid meds, and possibly other influences, the intestines were affected.  Gluten free and colustrum and living as much as possible (added) sugar free has made that I'm almost back to normal functioning bowels.  Synthetic thyroid meds were replaced with dessicated meds.  (Gentler on the system, I think, and the bonus of T3)  

      At first the puzzle of a better functioning body and thus digestive system was by some called 'an enigma'.  Where to begin?  My body showed its malfunctioning in so many ways.  After the saliva test via the naturepath a lot became clear.  So then we worked on 'what's for breakfast'.  

      For a long time I cooked millet, or quinoa, mixed that in with a certain amount of yoghurt (with aged cheese the only milkproduct still tolerated by my system)  added a teaspoon of cinnemon, topped that off with sliced almonds and on top of that fruit of the season (whatever is ready in my yard) (winters it comes from the freezer)  With the millet or quinoa while still warm I mixed in a small amount of coconut oil.  And all the supplements/capsules I take with coconut milk.  There's my breakfast.  However, with going away a lot in summer I opted for a gluten free muesli mix that can be sprinkled on top of my yoghurt and add the rest after that.  With this change I miss out on the coconut oil. And forgot that it was important to the whole of digestion. 

      Perhaps too big an answer to your question. 

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      not in the least too big ...absolutely fascinating and where its at..as they say...really good to know these things and to share...thank you so much fascinating. since going paleo i've often had a nutrient dense cooked breakfast with organic bacon fried on temp no1 or 2  with organic eggs...very easy to get now...i only light cook the yolk ...while well cooking the white if i'm going to eat it ...tho others like the whites. never used to be fussy like that

      or i do a smoothy...yest i had banana with my frozen red grapes from last year...more coming up to hopefully ripen this year...whizzed with this new omega milk i'm trying but its got carageen...apparently junk ..in it but i'm giving it a go with a smidgen of spinach leaves.

      want to do more smoothies was temporarily put off by the cruciferous crisis (! )...but that's over now...phew! tried really green now going to add in some apple ...i know i should be having more flax seed and oil..used to add it to soya yog...til found out the bad news about soya! you got a way of taking flax?

      think youll get back into coconut oil?

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      oh you're invited to join sky's fast,,,check out 'little experiment' well we all are!
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      Once I will get back to the millet and quinoa I probably will add the coconut oil again.  For now it is a bit tedious.  The gluten free muesli we found in the store is ready to go and makes camping a little easier. 
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      Are you talking about a special fast?  Or just fasting in general?
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      hanny the fast is an open invitation to all...just thought i'd be seeing you so told sky i'd mention. it starts on tuesday morning. check out sky23 's thread ....hi about to try an experiment...we're all going to report in as the two days go by ...to cheer others on and to see how we far we can each go or want to go....but lots of de-tox tea and filtered water...then very beneficial for cleansing especially if you'd like to try following ginny's protocol if that appeals to you?  xxxxxxxxx
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      I have soup days.  Does that count?

      My drinking water is filtered. 

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      yes hanny why not ..if today happens to be a soup day...count yourself in!

      we started last night...so in principle its going on until tomo eve when the first meal will be had. not all are doing two days g30 is stopping tonight.

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    Doreen, I got a raging yeast infection the first time I tried to have sex after my diagnosis, six months in. I foolishly bought the three-suppository canesten cream. Like taking a blowtorch to my vulva. Later when I described it to my gynae she said two things. First, I shouldn't have expected to be ready for sex after only six months treatment with clobetasol and second I certainly should have used the seven-dose, gentler, suppositories. Also, as I well knew, I should have cut way back on sugar, which I didn't do until recently.

    I once had a pharmacist say to me when picking up antifungal cream: Yeast thrives with stress, friction, and sugar. With our fragile flesh, friction especially.

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    if you are wanting to consider a very strong anti fungal which has healed one of our number of LS ....you might wish to enquire about coptidis rhizoma from a chinese herbal practioner or acupuncturist...and go over to the alternative site to follow 'cured but it took work'. this woman devised a protocol with support from those with ancient wisdom with whom she was able to make contact.
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    hanny...there is so much in what you have said...firstly the true effect of synthetics is striking...i am just starting out with levothyroxin....doing ok but repeatedly coming off to reduce dependence and to see if i can kick back my own natural thyroid production...am not there yet...but getting a sense of regulation..i hear caution from you about risk associated with synthetics and i'm listening...am looking into armour...just gather its stronger and less easy to regulate...but you say levo could have a bowel influence. this is very important...i wonder if there's some kind of link between synthetic hormones and any of the inflammatory bowel diseases?

    do you have probs with armour? sky said she had a black cloud....was it an unhappy pig?....all arguments for the highest standards of animal care.

    your breakfast...why cereals and imitation cereals? have you considered a complete change and no grains at all? a change of diet can be a change...not just a replication with similiar stuff which may be affecting you? does your naturopath have suggestions for a completely grain-free regime? just thinking might be a further boost for you? xxxxxxxx

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      Someone once said - you are an enigma.  I tell one thing and forget another.  I also am borderline diabetic.  That influences my food intake as well.  I have adjusted to this element as good as possible in the hope to prevent worse.  However, I find summer, with going away a lot, a bit harder to keep following my regular rythm.  

      I'm not sure what you call "immitation cereals".  

      I consult with my naturepath and follow the suggestions given at that moment in time.  It may be adjusted another time.  This far I have been very impressed with his guidance, seeing the improvement in my well-being.  (although the LS has thrown a big wrench in this well-being, knowing the possible influence of globetasol and experiencing how aggresive this LS can be)  With that - I try to keep informed, like on this website and other.  However, there are times that I rather not, when I'm tired to concentrate so much on my own well-being and loose sight of other things that happen around me.  

      On synthetics: The change that came when I went from synthetic thyroid meds to dessicated was enormous.  At the time I was loosing too much of my hair, an aditional symptom to the bowel sensitivity.  Though I'm not a person that spends a lot of time in front of the mirror, the thought of becoming balled was too much for me to bare.  So again I studied that extra info one receives with the medication and realized that maybe one of the possible side affects for me was severe hairloss and that these meds could be having that affect on me.  

      As an extra note - I believe that a person should take foods from the whole circle of foods that are available to us.  Not too much of one and not too much of the other.  I try to find some kind of balance.

      The next thing I note: Where does my food come from?  The vegies come from my garden, most of the fruit comes from my small orchard. I know that this is organically grown.  I was the one who stood next to the tree, so to speak, and know how the fruit has been treated.  Labor intensive, for sure, but I think well worth it.  

      In short, if you can call this rambling short,  I try to gather info from all sides and sites and try to live as best as I can.  Perhaps I'll live one or two years longer than the person who is eating 'junk' food. (ha)  Or perhaps I am given the chance to grow older in relative comfort.  Who knows.   

       

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      i think you will be very happy in your old age! i hope to have a balanced diet too...by imitation cereals i was meaning 'other grains' being used to replace those even higher in gluten. x
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      Do you know of some examples in 'the other grains'?
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      sorry missed this but your naturopath is your best guide. It was just that for me having had such relief from quitting gluten in wheat...i went on to exclude all grains.
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      Current theory...ok must dig out the citations and get back to you...is that intestinal permeability is the result of inflammation.

      Inflammation is caused by the ingestion of foods and toxins that promote swelling and histamine release due to the body's attempt to repel those toxins and foods that are in some way unnatural. The foods might be overloaded with pesticides or fertilisers or both. They might be de-natured GMO products that the body cannot cope with and which the body does not have the bacterial resources to digest. 

      This is the current understanding of the onset of autoimmunity. Some in the scientific community, such as Sayer Ji, argue that  inflammation and diaorrhea is infact a healthy and appropriate reaction to unsuitable foodstuffs. Rather than repressing the body's rejection and its appropriate signals to us, or more drastically re-sectioning the bowel (taking part of it out), it might be better to pay attention to the signals that we are eating things that the body cannot deal with. Sorry this is getting a bit long and may not interest you but I would be very much like to hear your naturopath's opinion of this current understanding if s/he's following.   

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      Hard to tell, Marey, what my naturepath's opinion would be on this matter.  I would have to make a special appointment to ask him.  

      I can only tell you about my personal observations and experiences. 

      Like - how the switch from synthetic to dessicated thyroid meds have made a difference;  how Colustrum has supported the functioning of my intestines.  And that then has reflected on the whole of my well-being.  

      It has, however, not made much of a difference to my LS.  Which at the moment is "raging mad."

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      oh gosh  sorry your LS is raging mad.

      of course theres extra expense in pursuing that I should have been more thoughtful before enquiring. Might I make a suggestion however?

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      well since you've all ready quit gluten...such as in wheat (?)....why not go the whole hog and quit all grains?

      So that would be all cereals, rice, millet the lot...for a month to 6 weeks. see if you get any relief from that. I 've found that I could re-introduce rice but i still have inflammation so i'm going to try to quit dairy again...gave it up in the past. I'd like to try raw dairy if i re-introduce dairy. The Paleo Mom really is a great guide to addressing bowel inflammation and she's got a cook book coming out...i've just bought it... so will have some recipes to share!

      I say all this but the forthcoming protocol, should it interest you, doesn't promote giving up food groups ...she recommends a 'balanced diet' but everything organic, pref locally grown so you know it hasn't been treated and also raw dairy...so there's a few hints !

      That said if there's relief from symptoms am sure the protocol works with abstinence from inflammatory foods as well....and I don't think its recommended to eat stuff which is known to be causing autoimmunity.

      There are apparently a number of trigger foods and its different for many but allergy to grains is widespread due to the hefty treatment with fertilisers and pesticides that commercial wheat and other grains receive. Nuts and eggs can be allergens too and the list goes on but I think we need a lot of support to work through and really find out what our individual triggers are. However the paleo mom got over lichen planus by this elimination method. She calls it the Autoimmune Protocol (The AIP). Its the toughest regime and beyond Paleo...which you seem to be quite close to following?

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      Yes, I am pretty close to following the Paleo diet, though I wasn't aware of that at first.  I was guided by my naturepath and already well on my way.

      What my problem is that I sometimes forget certain ingredients that are beneficial.  Just disappearing from my 'disk'.  (memory or other, I don't know, it just happens)  

      Since most of my food is homegrown I'm not worried about the 'poisons'.  There is non on the food I have in my garden and in my orchard, pure organically grown.  All is as is.  Sometimes I'm unfortunate: mice, chipmunks, deer, marmots and the like enjoy the foods in my garden as well.  Sometimes a bear.  Let's say: We share.  

      As I said before - I believe in a balanced diet.  Not too much of one and not too much of the other.  Milk I don't drink anymore for the longest time.  I eat only aged cheese, cause I seem to need these particular nutrients. Only so now and then an egg.  I'm fairly careful with nuts.  

      I find that the way my intestines react to food is a pretty good indicator whether what I eat is good for me or not.  Anything not so good walks through my system with lots of speed.  

      However, there are possibly things I totally missed. What do you know about nuts?

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      wondering about them...they can be another allergen...but if soaked not so bad apparently. i don't think i react but looking more carefully and trying to avoid for a period then may re-introduce and see what happens.  i tried almond milk but wasn't especially keen. i do prefer coconut milk which i make myself...its very comforting when warmed and lovely in smoothies. do you use it? i recently heard of quinoa milk....which if it had any gluten can be transformed by fermenting the milk after straining it through a sieve...and also separately fermenting the goo for other uses....eg adding to pet food.

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