Going with Focal Laser Ablation for BPH

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Ok, I have decided, I am going in the next 21 days for FLA. I have picked dr. k if the schedule of my wife's treatments can allow it along with his schedule. He is busy with some complicated PCa cases as well as talking about a partially self funded clinical trail scenario for BPH patients. 

If I cannot line up with him, his associate is Walser and I will get him as they still work together at the same hospital. Maybe I can get both involved and get a double bang for my buck. I will let you know soon.

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    "Going with Focal Laser Ablation for BPH"....Yes! That was the headline on a Google website that more or less has changed my life. I will admit, it is still a little early to completely define my experience but for the benefit of others who suffer from this condition with or without cancerous lesions, I thought my journey would be interesting. 

    My prostate size was never really large. Just 50 grams, but it wasn't about size. It was about location. A very large median lobe had engulfed about 2/3 of my prostate interfering with my urination and literally as I was told, forming a plug around my bladder neck. Of course, getting up at night to pee multiple times interfered with my sleep and my energy levels. I had tried multiple holistic solutions including saw palmetto, nettle root, hormone balancing, green juicing etc etc. all to no avail. I even traveled to Israel, spent $17,000 for the Gat Goren procedure which embolized my internal spermatic veins (ISV's) but to my consternation I later learned this promising procedure did not work for those with a large median lobe nor did PAE.

    And after 6 years of suffering, that Google website caught my attention. I learned a large group of individuals who all had the same BPH affliction were members of a club called the K Club. What did K stand for? It stood for Karamanian, a doctor who had treated each individual, with success, compassion and a deep knowlege of the affliction at hand.

    On January 7th, I traveled from South Florida to Houston, Texas and underwent a 3 hour focal laser treatment at Houston Medical Imaging under the care of Dr. Ara Karamanian. Why undergo the expense of traveling to Houston and incurring hotel and airline costs in addition to the $21,000 for the surgery? The answer was simple! Dr. K not only had a medical degree but also was a graduate of Duke University with an engineering degree. When he examined the MRI of my prostate, unlike my urologist and those in South Florida who do FLA, he found two other areas that needed ablation aside from the median lobe. It was both his engineering and medical experience that convinced me (despite my initial objection) that to do the job right, as much as 50% of the prostate tissue needed to be removed. The facility was Houston Medical Imaging. In all of Houston, I learned that there were only two Siemens Skyra 3T MRI Magnetom imaging machines. Just about the latest technology with each machine costing $3 million dollars. Obviously, if surgery were to be done on my prostate, I wanted a machine with the latest web technology that was MRI compatible, unlike the older GE machines that some doctors use at more that half the price.

    Approximately 30% of my prostate was removed. Intravenous IV conscious sedation presented a higher level of care. At no time during the 3.5 hours of surgery did I feel any pain or discomfort. I have heard of patients that have had oral valium sedation with nerve block. This I learned is less costly but can involve some pain for the patient.

    It is now 18 days since I have had the operation. For a 75 year old man, having a catheter in his bladder for 8 days was no fun. I was warned of spasms and though I took uribel (?) to ease the discomfort, the spasms which occurred several times a day initially, can make a grown man scream like a baby. Throughout this period I began to understand why a fan club grew around Dr. K. When it was an unusually cold day, below 15 degrees in Houston, Dr. K came to my hotel not once but twice to check on how I was doing. I did not expect that level of care as most doctors do not provide home visits anymore. Not even 30 minutes in an office before you are rushed out for another patient. Today it is hard to fine optimized clinical care, much less a doctor who is willing to speak to you for multiple hours and even be on call at any time of the night. Dr K was the exception and I am very thankful.

    Results so far have been beyond my expectations for such a short period of time. Of most concern to me was that my pipes were all working well. No damage to the neuromuscular bundle or the ejaculatory ducts etc. Yes, this 75 year old previously had a perfect score on a sexual health questionnaire and I didn't want that changed. After 10 days, ejaculation was better than I expected....A climax that a 30 year old would relish!!! Imagine that! Ejaculatory fluid actually increased. Hard to expect that when 30% of your prostate is removed. No retrograde! Those poor naive TURP sufferers. They forgot what they are missing. I currently release close to 200 ml upon urination, double the increase before the surgery. I have been told the best results come after 30 days for which continual improvement will happen for 6 months. Yes, their is still some blood in the urine which I was told can be expected for a while as the prostate inflammation goes down and healing progresses. 

    I hope I haven't bored anyone with my journey. Good luck and success to all of you!

     

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      Congratulations Martin ! Hurray to FLA ! And one more point for Dr K. Hank
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      Martin Victor,

      Congratulations on your courage and your result. Please keep us posted. I hope your condition will continue to improve!

      Fred

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      Good Luck Martin, the best is still coming!!!

      ​I am Mike and I was #2 of Dr K FLA for BPH patient from April 6th, 2017.  I am still going strong and getting better.

      Mike 

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      For some reason I thought he had 100's of patients, not 20.   I probably confused him with Bag la and his PAE patients being around 400 or so.  

      I guess no one has done FLA on hundreds of men for BPH?

      Seems the more I research the myriad of options the more depressed and nauseous I get.  

      I know my problems got worse after my biopsy.   I will never go through that again.   I'll take my chances of dying from cancer first.   

      I am looking at Holep and FLA. I just cannot go with PAE and I'm not a candidate for TURP.  I left my last Uro because he pushed hard for TURP.  

      I do wish there was a 5-10 year track record on FLA.  Conceptually, it makes more sense than some of the other options. 

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      Michael  please don't get discouraged on FLA because there are only 20 on here.  There are more men that have had it done.  Look at the good he had done for the men with cancer.  He has done a lot of them and that is when he found out FLA would help BPH patients.  I read some of the patients that he has done with cancer.  This one stuck out.  He had 1 spot. And he did not want a TURP or have his prostate removed.  That was all he was offered.  He was 75. when he had it done.  After Dr. K did the MRI that he does.  He found 2 more spots.  After showing him the mapping of what he had to remove.  He say let's do it.  His prostate was only 50 ML.   Dr. K. remove half of it and got rid of the 3 spots.  After 6 week he was fine peeing great no cancer.  And he said at 75 he still enjoys sex.  Had no problem with erections. And his orgasms and ejaculation he said a 20 year would be happy with.  So please think before you do anything because whatever you do will have a change on your life  Ken  

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      Hi Michael , Im going to Houston  for FLA.  My investigation  is  positive for FLA as best option  in present days.  If helpfull send me PM , I will send you  evaluation of patients  in excel file .

      Stan  ( Central Europe )

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      Some people think that every patient that has a procedure gets on this site and tells everyone about it. That simply isn't the case, in fact it must be a small minority of patients that come here. 

      If Dr K only had 20 patients, he would need to find a new line of work. 

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      As I know from him  he had about 100  patients  with Prostate cancer , and just then he started to deal with us  BPH , up to now maybe 30 procedures  . Stan
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      That would be Dr. Sperling who I believe says he has done hundreds of FLA for BPH procedures. I don't think we've had any of his patients here, but maybe there are reports on other forums.

      Jim

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      Hey Jim  I was going through some of my old e-mail.  I did get 1 in 2016 from Dr. Sperling's office when I asked about retro and FLA.  The nurse wrote.  Of course your going to get some lose in semen.  But also said that it all depends on the amount of tissue is removed.  To me it sounds like a standard answer there not going to tell you anything because if it happens Oh well.  If it is mapped right and they stay away from the the ejaculatory duct and the bundle you should be fine.  And after the mapping Dr. K. shows the patients what he has to remove before it's done.  If you don't like what he is telling you you can all ways voice your opinion.  But I think a lot of the problem is that to many men do not want to say anything to the doctor because there scared.  Men have to remember that it is your body that is having the procedure.  You have to give the doctor your concern.  Sometimes they have to be reminded and if they care enough for there patients they will listen.  I don't know if I'm saying this right but that what I think  Ken    Also I did not like the way they treated Frank he wanted some answer and they just blew him off     

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      Ken, I am checking on you how are you? Did you get this post? 

      John

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