Gout rash

Thank you I am drinking the tart cherry juice but wonder if I need to also get tablets or capsules too I just started the uricel and celery seeds..this is a wonder to me and can't seem to find any infio on line about it at all. Thank you for replying my friend

Hope you don't mind me poking my "Gout " nose in, but as an 

ocassional sufferer , I wondered if one of your body parts is causing

the abundance of uric acid ??

I do take herbal remedy for gout, which works extremely well for me.

Thank goodness !!

In my case it is genetic, I also have the both genes for Hemochromatosis and the hemochromatosis also causes psuedogout on top of the regular gout in my case. 

Before it had been effectively treated ultrasoud scans showed the tophi had spread to my ankles, wrists and hands and I had large nodules of tophi on my hands, elbows and tops of my feet. It took almost two years for high doses of the drugs to dissolve the tophi and I'm on a much lower maintance dose now  although I still get flares.

If a herbal remedy works I think thats great, I'd personally rather be able to do that but by the time tophi start to develop its to late and strong drugs are the only thing that can get the uric acid levels down fast enough to prevent further damage to one's joints and kidneys, thats why I hope the OP sees a MD right away..

Undoubtedly your gout and mine was caused by a body part - probably our genes; and possibly exposure to environmental lead which effects the kidney.

As for your gout being controlled by herbs - why not inform us all which ones?

I'd be really interested to know how long you have been gout free, at what level were your blood urates pre treatment and what level are they now? What it is important to understand is that gout is not the underlying disease but the symptom of high levels of blood urates. Many patients are happy to simply keep the gout symptoms at bay, not appreciating that the high blood urates are insidiously damaging other organs in the body (most notably but not exclusively the heart, kidney and liver). It is this long term organ damage which is the real risk, and one of the reason that gout sufferers have a substantially reduced life expectancy.

What a ghastly thing to live with. I use Bromelain continuously,one 

a day, and I believe that people with Arthritis, do the same.

I have also suggested to Betsy  to see her G.P ,she said she would

do so tomorrow ,

Hope your social life is not held back with it

Jacqueline

You're right jwrhn1951, I forgot about tophi gout, it definitely sounds like it.

Me again, more questions !!! are G.P's aware of the different types

of gout ?? My first  encounter  with it, was alarming, I thought I

had broken my big toe, and took myself off to A&E,, well, a taxi did !!

The nurse who saw me just said ""It's Gout "  gave me some  pain

killers ,a pair of crutches and sent me home,, another taxi !!

 

the same here they gave me pain killers and sent me home.. i have had a chronic illness other than gout that i had to take pretty strong meds for hep c and they took thier toll on my body with all the side affects from the gout meds i guess im just a little scared ya know? i see a PRN not a doctor. But im calling Monday morning i was afraid it was tophi and now it really sounds like it. again Thank you I dont need judgement right now just a little advice and someone to talk to about this.

Absolutely spot on.

As for the herbal treatments - I suspect that people don't realise how serious gout is and assume that by getting rid of an attack, then they have stopped the damage being done to organs.

Damage to the organs is a factor with gout. Luckily, my doctors have all been good at running blood tests to see what's going on with me. At one time when I was younger, I was eating a lot of processed foods with nitrites,hot dogs, salami, etc, constantly going to the ER or seeing a doctor. My health suffered tremendously until I changed my eating habits. I don't eat that junk anymore, thus my need for medical attention has dwindled down to yearly physicals. It's good when you find a doctor that understands and knows about your specific ailments.

I think you are probably correct. My Toohi were solid but I have read of them oozing through the skin like toothpaste.

Rusty, I was reading that people who get tophus have poor circulation. This is the case with you?

Not at all. I was relatively fit when it started. My heart and circulation are tested annually - untreated gout sufferers have an increased heart risk of over 200%. Mine came on fast - in a matter of weeks - loads of tophi on hands feet and wrists. Previous to this I was aware of an occasional dull toe ache, but not even enough to take a parecetomol. I used to take low dose aspirin, which can cause gout. However, one side of my family 6 of 8 cousins all got gout under 40.

FYI the research indicates that it takes 3 months - 66 months to remove tophi by keeping the urate level at the bottom end of normal.

I think in the UK doctors are often not aware that the unrated must be flushed for months or years, before going to a low maintenance dose of allopurinol or similar. They seem to be content to just stop the toe pain.

How long did it take to get rid of your tophi? How quickly did they arrive?

Btw when the tophi were forming I had a tingling and numbness in my hands and arms. Did you get that?

Fortunately, I never got tophi. I've always been very active going to the gym, running and exercising, staying below my bmi, keeping my weight down on top of eating healthy and drinking lots of water.

I had read reports from medical journals that tophi form in many individuals who have very little activity, and have circulation problems. This is why I was asking. My whole exercise routine is to keep my circulation going, and not let more crystals form which seems to have helped since I haven't gotten any attacks in the past 8 yrs. or so.

I follow a similar regime - and followed it even when the tophus gout started! I would suggest that what stops crystals forming isn't moving the blood - it's keeping the blood urate levels low. The reason I suspect that there's an association with poor circulation and gout is the association of metabolic syndrome and gout.

We are doing the right thing in that a reasonable amount of exercise and a BMI < 25 is good for everything!

Then I'm suspecting that I might have what they call psuedo-gout because my urate levels have never been an issue. Maybe this is why I've only gotten 3 attacks my whole life. At least no one has ever said, your urate levels are high that I can remember. But then I'm not getting tested when I have the attacks. wondering now if my levels are high when I get an attack.

There is not much point in getting tested during an attack. The reason is the attacks are caused by precipitation (basically "condemnation" of the urate from solution into crystals. The white blood cells attack the crystals (thinking they are foreign tissue), and that creates swelling and pain. So during an attack, rather counter-intuitively, levels of blood urate fall. You need to get your urate levels tested when you are symptom free.

I don't have a lot of knowledge about pseudogout, but I believe that it tends to come on more slowly (days rather than hours) and tends to get the knee and not the big toe as "joint of preference". The crystals in the two diseases are different and can be seen under a microscope of they extract liquid from the joint during an attack (ouch).

It seems to me though if you have had three attacks only and none in years, well get back on your bike and keep peddling; whatever you're doing, be it the exercise or diet or genes, is doing you well!

I meant condensation not condemnation (spell checker).

Thanks will keep doing it then! However, if you say it comes on more slowly then this is what I have, because I will occasionally feel little tinges of pain, and I immediately start drinking cherry juice or nowadays I drink bromelain. Except that I only get the pain at the ball of my foot, or over my toes never on my knees.