Greenlight method for Prostate

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The thing about the Greenlight is the psychological effects after the surgery. The destruction of the prostate and the ejaculatory ducts is something that is difficult to deal with. The PAE which avoids this is a good way to go with it is feasible. I imagine doctors(urologists) who know the Greenlight method due this method because it is their bread and butter. It is business. In my case I was very nervous and very much without support and I thought yeah I will do this. But as an afterthought other methods that leave the ejaculatory ducts are the best way to go.

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    Over 500,000 Greenlight procedures have been performed!  

    For all you self proclaimed "doctors" on this website and who "contribute" to various threads, I ask you, "where did you earn your medical degree"?  The idea that you would prescribe or even suggest one treatment over another is a laughable disservice to men who are simply looking to know other men's experience of one single treatment.

    To all of you "contributors" who reply to a request for information on procedure B and reply with, "Oh, well, I had procedure X; but you shouldn't do it, and, I would never do Y or Z, and you should try procedure T", I invite you to cease and desist.  That is as polite a way as I can think of to say shut up.

    You rarely hear comments from men whose outcomes are successful.  That is because they have moved on with their lives.  The persistent noise heard here is largely from those who have had terrible outcomes.  Sincerely, I am sorry that this horror has happen to you; but it is not for you to tell other men what they should and should not do.  Simply state your procedure and experience and allow information seekers to make up their own minds.  The most exacerbating aspect of these threads is all the comments that have nothing to do with the "subject" offered by the man who posted the topic.

    Half a million greenlight procedures performed, and yet, a mere handful of naysayers who post here with their tales doom and gloom as if to speak for the other 499,994 procedures.  Three and half months after surgery, my own situation continues to evolve.  When I feel there is an update worth of posting, I put it on my thread; but it is always specific to my own experience. I do the same when posting on another man's topic.   I invite all of you to consider doing the same.

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      Yes they have done the number you say but over how many years.  And out of the men that had the GL how many have had to have a Turp to clean up the mess.  We all on here gonly give our opinion we do not force another man to have one or the other. He can do what ever he want.  But first get the information on any procedure you havebefore you pick one.  Have a good day  Ken 
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      First - you're right, almost all of the comments in this site are from people who have had problems. But there are many examples o this forum of doctors who performed surgery when they didn't even have a diagnosis - plenty of guys who went to see a doc because he had trouble peeing, so without as much as a scope and the doc scheduled them for a TURP. So they were going to do an obsolete procedure that carries a lot of risk of lifetime problems without so much as a diagnosis. From and MD.

      Everyone has to make their own decisions based on whatever criteria they want to use. But I invite anyone considering a procedure to NOT consider an MD as a reason to either trust a doctor, choose them to perform a procedure or even recommend one. This forum is littered with people who did that and will spend their lives in diapers and/or unable to ever have sex again.

      If someone wants to recommend something on this forum, they should do it and I invite you and everyone else to react as you want, but not tell other people what to post or how to react to those posts. There are some people on this forum that I ignore and others, who like me have done a lot of research into different procedures, when they'e indicated, what the success rate is and the side effect profile. I spent three years watching the clinical trials of several before I decided on one, did quite a bit of studying and while I don't preform procedures and can't predict outcomes, I can certainly advise people on what the minimum skill level to demand is and the questions that need to be asked and tests that need to be run before making a decision to opt for or against any procedure.

      I know also know quite a bit about the business of medicine and know that many (not all, probably not even most, but many) doctors steer patients to the procedures they make the most money on and away from the ones they don't know how to perform. Further, I know that while Greenlight used to be the least invasive treatment for BPH, it isn't anymore and there are several that are far less risky, with shorter recoveries, no anesthesia and less risk of permanent side effects. All will allow for the greelight to still be performed if they fail.

      There are people who had to quit work and most social activities because they were given an indefinite foley catheter regimen who were directed (strongly - in full opposition to what you're advocating here) to self cathing when their doctors didn't even consider it who got their lives back - work, excercise, social activities - everything. And some recovered faster as a result.

      We're all adults here - I suggest that everyone take a deep breath, say anything you think might be helpful and let everyone make their own decisions about their lives based on whatever input and data they want to use.

      So I'm going to continue to say what I think and help people however I can. FWIW, I just saw a post from someone describing a botched greenlight, that probably wasn't indicated and from his description may be incotinent for life. If he had posted prior to his procedure I sure would have advised that he not do it.

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      Could you please give me a reference to the "over 500,000 Greenlight procedures performed?"    Being a technical person, I like to read source data.   Thanks, Glenn

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