Posted , 4 users are following.
Hello-
Has anyone had a EGD with ultrasound (EUS) that came back no blockage but they found gallbladder was still diseased or had a stone in it once they removed it?
0 likes, 7 replies
We want the community to be a useful resource for our users but it is important to remember that the community are not moderated or reviewed by doctors and so you should not rely on opinions or advice given by other users in respect of any healthcare matters. Always speak to your doctor before acting and in cases of emergency seek appropriate medical assistance immediately. Use of the community is subject to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy and steps will be taken to remove posts identified as being in breach of those terms.
cchurley marty93036
Posted
I've seen many stories here where people have had these tests done, only to find out that their gall bladder continued to have pain, and some that found out later that they had gall stone/s &/or a gall bladder infection, abs had to have their gall bladder removed. I personally had bad pains in my gall bladder area for 2 years, and went to the GI Specialist about this. The Dr. wanted to do an endoscopy & a colonoscopy, yet i told him that this pain is not near my colon or my stomach, i know as I've had both of these procedures on several past occasions, and I knew this particular pain was in my right side & it radiated into my back. Finally after 2 years of this pain that only git worse with time, I could not bear this pain any longer, so I went to the Emergency room at my hospital and after a cat scan was done, the ER Doctor came in to talk to me, and he said: you have a large gall stone blockage, you have a bad infection also and if you had not come to the ER here today I'm afraid you would not be alive soon. They admitted me to the hospital immediately and did this gall bladder surgery within hours. If I had made another GI Specialist Appt. I would not be alive to tell this story. I have no clue why so many GI Specialists & Primary Dr.s do not see that this is a gall bladder problem, that obviously needs a cat scan in order to properly diagnose it, but I've seen far too many stories to count, on this thread alone, where people are having all of these multiple tests done for gall bladder problems, and these tests do not seem to properly see the gall bladder problems. I am not a Dr. & I'm not implying that everyone with right side pain get a Cat Scan, yet I will say that if you have ongoing pains in your gall bladder area, and your Primary Dr. &/or your Gastro. Specialist can not identify the reason fir this pain, then keep searching with another Gastro. Specialist & if all else fails, & you still have pain, (especially if it radiates into your back- which is dangerous!), go to your hospitals Emergency Room & if the Doctor does not offer this, tell them you want a cat scan of your gall bladder. My Uncle was not so fortunate, he had these same exact pains, and saw his Dr. & a GI Specialist, they did all the regular tests, but no cat scan. He developed a bad infection,(like mine was), yet by the time he went to the ER at the hospital, it was too late. They admitted him into the hospital, placed him in a coma, because his pains were not helped with pain meds. & his infection was so bad, it was gangerous and he died 2 days later. This is a very scary story, yet its important to know that gall bladder pains can not all be diagnosed by the traditional tests they give us for gall bladder pain. If you feel that there is a problem, even though your Dr.s & Specialist tell you that nothing shows on their tests . . . keep searching, find a new Dr. or GI Specialist, and if all else fails, and you still have pains, & symptoms of gall bladder problems, go to the hospital ER & request a cat scan if they don't offer you one. Also, be aware that a Cat Scan is a very high amount of radiation, yet when it comes to a possible life & death situation, this test may just save your life, as it did mine. Best wishes & success in the proper diagnosis of your gall bladder.
Micklemus cchurley
Posted
cchurley---- You are right about doctors not taking enough urgent care re a gall bladder. I had a CT scan that showed so called small calculii in my gall bladder that no one spoke to me about & yet I had symptoms that got worse over two years and themn the stones were discovered with ultrasound that I would have thought is inferior to CT
scan. All in all the professionals in my experience were crap at diagnostics.
My gall bladder was in a bad way and I could feel it with my fingers and had that confirmed by a heptobilliary doctor who said he had never detected anyone's gall bladder before........ Before I laid down he joked this is going to be interesting! He said you are right it is your gall bladder you can feel.
To cut a long story short my GP's were crap apart from one who sent me straight to get an ultrasound but still was not aware stones of Choletsterol type can be dissolved and umpteen people in varying degrees do not know FA about that dissolution treatment & yet they preach it does not work!
I was extremely lucky that although my gall bladder was swollen & no doubt inflamed and may have been infected I came out of it OK and without having to remove my gall bladder. I chose to dissolve them because at the onset of my bad gall bladder symptoms I already had a biopsy cut below the navel which took 2 months to heal.
If doctors paid the attention they should before a gall bladder gets into dire condition the stones may well be able to be dissolved as mine were. No wonder 'they' want the thing removed due to the many implications of their neglect to be in the bin with the stones!
cchurley marty93036
Posted
I've seen many stories here where people have had these tests done, only to find out that their gall bladder continued to have pain, and some that found out later that they had gall stone/s &/or a gall bladder infection, abs had to have their gall bladder removed. I personally had bad pains in my gall bladder area for 2 years, and went to the GI Specialist about this. The Dr. wanted to do an endoscopy & a colonoscopy, yet i told him that this pain is not near my colon or my stomach, i know as I've had both of these procedures on several past occasions, and I knew this particular pain was in my right side & it radiated into my back. Finally after 2 years of this pain that only git worse with time, I could not bear this pain any longer, so I went to the Emergency room at my hospital and after a cat scan was done, the ER Doctor came in to talk to me, and he said: you have a large gall stone blockage, you have a bad infection also and if you had not come to the ER here today I'm afraid you would not be alive soon. They admitted me to the hospital immediately and did this gall bladder surgery within hours. If I had made another GI Specialist Appt. I would not be alive to tell this story. I have no clue why so many GI Specialists & Primary Dr.s do not see that this is a gall bladder problem, that obviously needs a cat scan in order to properly diagnose it, but I've seen far too many stories to count, on this thread alone, where people are having all of these multiple tests done for gall bladder problems, and these tests do not seem to properly see the gall bladder problems. I am not a Dr. & I'm not implying that everyone with right side pain get a Cat Scan, yet I will say that if you have ongoing pains in your gall bladder area, and your Primary Dr. &/or your Gastro. Specialist can not identify the reason fir this pain, then keep searching with another Gastro. Specialist & if all else fails, & you still have pain, (especially if it radiates into your back- which is dangerous!), go to your hospitals Emergency Room & if the Doctor does not offer this, tell them you want a cat scan of your gall bladder. My Uncle was not so fortunate, he had these same exact pains, and saw his Dr. & a GI Specialist, they did all the regular tests, but no cat scan. He developed a bad infection,(like mine was), yet by the time he went to the ER at the hospital, it was too late. They admitted him into the hospital, placed him in a coma, because his pains were not helped with pain meds. & his infection was so bad, it was gangerous and he died 2 days later. This is a very scary story, yet its important to know that gall bladder pains can not all be diagnosed by the traditional tests they give us for gall bladder pain. If you feel that there is a problem, even though your Dr.s & Specialist tell you that nothing shows on their tests . . . keep searching, find a new Dr. or GI Specialist, and if all else fails, and you still have pains, & symptoms of gall bladder problems, go to the hospital ER & request a cat scan if they don't offer you one. Also, be aware that a Cat Scan is a very high amount of radiation, yet when it comes to a possible life & death situation, this test may just save your life, as it did mine. Best wishes & success in the proper diagnosis of your gall bladder.
cchurley marty93036
Edited
I've seen many stories here where people have had these tests done, only to find out that their gall bladder continued to have pain, and some that found out later that they had gall stone/s &/or a gall bladder infection, and had to have their gall bladder removed. I personally had bad pains in my gall bladder area for 2 years, and went to the GI Specialist about this. The Dr. wanted to do an endoscopy & a colonoscopy, yet I told him that this pain is not near my colon or my stomach, I know as I've had both of these procedures on several past occasions, and I knew this particular pain was in my right side & it radiated into my back. Finally after 2 years of this pain that only got worse with time, & I could not bear this pain any longer, so I went to the Emergency room at my hospital and after a cat scan was done, the ER Doctor came in to talk to me, and he said: you have a large gall stone blockage, you have a bad infection also and if you had not come to the ER here today I'm afraid you would not be alive soon. They admitted me to the hospital immediately and did this gall bladder surgery within hours. If I had made another GI Specialist Appt. I would not be alive to tell this story. I have no clue why so many GI Specialists & Primary Dr.s do not see that this is a gall bladder problem, that obviously needs a cat scan in order to properly diagnose it, but I've seen far too many stories to count, on this thread alone, where people are having all of these multiple tests done for gall bladder problems, and these tests do not seem to properly see the gall bladder problems. I am not a Dr. & I'm not implying that everyone with right side pain get a Cat Scan, yet I will say that if you have ongoing pains in your gall bladder area, and your Primary Dr. &/or your Gastro. Specialist can not identify the reason fir this pain, then keep searching with another Gastro. Specialist & if all else fails, & you still have pain, (especially if it radiates into your back- which is dangerous!), go to your hospitals Emergency Room & if the Doctor does not offer this, tell them you want a cat scan of your gall bladder. My Uncle was not so fortunate, he had these same exact pains, and saw his Dr. & a GI Specialist, they did all the regular tests, but no cat scan. He developed a bad infection,(like mine was), yet by the time he went to the ER at the hospital, it was too late. They admitted him into the hospital, placed him in a coma, because his pains were not helped with pain meds. & his infection was so bad, it was gangerous and he died 2 days later. This is a very scary story, yet its important to know that gall bladder pains can not all be diagnosed by the traditional tests they give us for gall bladder pain. If you feel that there is a problem, even though your Dr.s & Specialist tell you that nothing shows on their tests . . . keep searching, find a new Dr. or GI Specialist, and if all else fails, and you still have pains, & symptoms of gall bladder problems, go to the hospital ER & request a cat scan if they don't offer you one. Also, be aware that a Cat Scan is a very high amount of radiation, yet when it comes to a possible life & death situation, this test may just save your life, as it did mine. Best wishes & success in the proper diagnosis of your gall bladder.
marty93036 cchurley
Posted
Thank you for your insight, I have had just about every test ran and all comes back normal, including a CT scan of abdomen everything normal. None of the doctors can figure out why all the symptoms. The light stools has me stumped they say not to worry about it but can be a sign of blockage in bile duct or liver problems but again i had EGD with endoscopic ultrasound where they got up close and personal with my liver, gallbladder and pancreas and everything normal, they think its my anxiety now manifesting in physical symptoms with my digestive tract. i do have 2nd opinion appt with another GI specialist next week just to see but after this i am going to let it be. not sure what else i can do at this point .. i have a general surgeon that i have consulted with who is willing to take out my gb but i don't want to remove it unless its definitely my gb causing issues. i dont know what to do at this point.
AliMama marty93036
Posted
It's possible to have gallbladder disease with no stones, or the stones are so small that they don't show up on ultrasound. Ultrasound is more sensitive for detecting stones than CT. Most people who have stones are asymptomatic and thus will not likely need to have the gallbladder removed.
What are your symptoms? Any signs of concerns on blood tests? There are a lot of things in the same general area that can cause RUQ pain, many of which cannot be detected on scans.
marty93036 AliMama
Posted
hello alimama-
i know stones can be missed on a regular ultrasound but can it be missed on an endoscopic ultrasound ?