Has anyone out there tried Lithium?
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I've herd some bad things about it could someone give me the specifics of it.for treating deprsssion?
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Posted , 5 users are following.
I've herd some bad things about it could someone give me the specifics of it.for treating deprsssion?
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deee
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Good Luck
aaron42706 deee
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I can't talk about the experience you had because you lived it. However, your reported side effects seem odd. First off, Lithium is a very old drug so there's not much to be made through advertisement. One of Lithium's most common uses is in the treatment of resistant depression. While you may not of head of Lithium for depression, it's very real. After all, Lithium doesn't only treat mania but also depression associated with BP 1 or 2. Lithium is the only drug in the world proven to prevent suicide. I have never heard of Lithium causing depression, actually, it does the exact opposite. I'm sorry for what you went through. It's obvious your doctor had no idea what he was doing and this is evident through how much Lithium he gave you. I would highly recommend you never see that doctor again. Lithium is quite easy to monitor and if your doctor can't do that right he's no good. Remember, basically any drug can be toxic is large amounts. Overdosing on most drugs would cause this reaction, and you did, indeed, overdoes on Lithium.
ann55375 deee
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i dont have bipolar but psych has tried all other anti deps for anxiety.. i am worried he will give me lithium next. how did you get off it intact and did you find a medication to suit?
pat53692
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deee
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What has to be done is to keep a regular check on the amout of lithium retained in the body so if taking it then you will be told to come back regularly for a blood test. Do not let this be overlooked.
The problem with bipolar diagnosis is that they find it most difficult to separate from autism, particularly high functioning autism or Asperger Syndrome so this had lead to numbers of misdiagnoses. Older psychiatrists tend to think bipolar first but as autism gets more and more attention the test for that should be used automatically.
aaron42706 Guest
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Lithium is not commonly used in conjunction with Prozac. A anti depressant is one of the worst options to use in BP patients. In BP patients, anti depressants are known to cause manic episodes. They are a big no no. The only combination that seems to work in patients with BP is Zyprexa and Prozac together. No other combination with Prozac id readily used in BP patients.
pat53692
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pella1964 pat53692
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Just FYI - Manic Depression is the SAME as bipolar. It's just an outdated name for it. There are also now classifications for bipolar such as I or II, rapid cycling, etc, because we have learned so much more about the condition.and variations.
deee
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But then, I did hear of a psychiatrist who said that ECT gave you a seizure but not a convulsion!?! (It's called `electroCONVULSIVE therapy'!)
In the last 10-15 years there has been a proliferation of bipolar diagnoses, 7 different ones, last heard. A pastdoctor of mine, a Professor, who is claimed to be a world leader in bipolar diagnosis and treatment knew them all. We had some lively discussions about that. (He was impressed by some of my drawings in 2002 and one was published on the cover of the American Journal of Psychiatry, as a `bipolar' drawing!? It wasn't to me, but I got paid for it, so...) But `autism?' In adults?
Lithium's anti-manic properties were discovered in the late 1950s by an Australian psychiatrist called John Cade. He was before my time but was superintendent at Larundel Psychiatric Hospital, Melbourne,where I trained in the 70s. We only ever used it as a mood stabiliser in manic-depression. I have to say that most psychiatrists will not give an anti-depressant such as fluoxetine, to people with bipolar as there is a tendency for it to flip people into a manic episode or into `rapid cycling' mood swings. You're absolutely right about the possibility of toxic levels of lithium building in the body, jaguar. As I said it can be nasty if not properly controlled.
In view of what the visiting doctor said about Manic-Depression being different from BiPolar, it might be an idea to get another opinion if you can, Pat. Before you take anything I think you should ask him why he came to the conclusion that; a) you have it and b) why does he say they are different? I'd be very wary of a doctor who said that. Maybe there's a reason he works for the insurance company?
Another thing, have you ever had any of the anti-psychotics? Seroquel, Zyprexa, Epilem, Risperodone (rough side-effects)? As you know I don't like drugs but, sometimes the emotional `flattening' you get from those might help in the short term. Just a thought. The anti-psychotics are often used in bipolar/manic-depression, because they, too, have the effect of reducing the intensity of emotion, i.e. mood stabilisation, and are not as toxic as Lithium. All of them will eventually cause a problem, but in the very short term they might help a bit.
Good Luck with it.
PS: I saw something extraordinary last night. A drug called Ketamine. An article in the Lancet claims: `A randomized placebo-controlled study in 18 patients conducted at the US NIH and published in 2006, found ketamine significantly improved treatment-resistant major depression within hours of injection that lasted up to one week after the single dose.[87] NIMH director Dr. Thomas Insel remarked:"To my knowledge, this is the first report of any medication or other treatment that results in such a pronounced, rapid, prolonged response with a single dose. These were very treatment-resistant patients." !!! "Emergency" ECT? A thing of the past? Apparently it outperformed ECT SIGNIFICANTLY! So no memory loss or cognitive dysfunction either! And bonus, a side effect of having an hallucinatiory "trip", and impressive pain control as well! WOW!
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