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richard26983
richard26983

I've had high BP for a few years but generally controlled by meds (lots of bad reactions to the meds though).  This year I'd started a concerted effort to exercise daily, lose weight and eat better to try and improve things and I was feeling better.  About 6 weeks ago I had problems with vision in my right eye and found I had a branch retinal vein occlusion (basically there's a bleed in my right eye and I can see little out of it).  I went straight to the GP who found BP was 230/130 and sent me to A&E who kept me there until it came down to 180/100.  CHanged meds and gradually increasing the doses so that from today I'm on 300 mg Irbesartan once a day and 8mg Doxazosin twice daily (that's up today from 4mg twice daily).  When I was in the GP he was reading 195/120 and I'm getting roughly 180/110 at home.  I'm concerned that the drugs are making no real headway and feel like a bit of a ticking timebomb after what happened with my eye.  I'd had lost of tests previously (renal scan, etc.) and they've simply said that it's essential (unexplained) hypertension.  I'm just wondering if people have had similar experiences and how it worked out.

Thanks

 

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  • obaidMohd
    obaidMohd richard26983

    Posted

    Hi

     I have just seen an improvement in high blood pressure, from 170/107 in a month to 154/92 before treatment to 128/80. For that i have googled hbp forum and found your post. I am only trying to help and need that results for everyone.  I was diagnosed with high blood pressure  as in 140/90 figures and thought it was fine. Few months later while at the doctor he said your blood pressure is high which was 160/95. I went to a guy i know who does cupping and made it in some certain points and told me we will have to do it 3 times in middle of the month for the arabic calendar. He suggested that i lose some weight and in a month my weight dropped 3 kg with cycling an hour a day.Today was my second cupping and the first reading before cupping was 154/92 after cupping its 128/80 and i have pictures for that, those are immediate drops in pressure with no meds, pic are available. I would recommend you do cupping several times (once a month) with some aerobics. Let me know plz if you need to know anything.

    Thanx

    • jennifer01117
      jennifer01117 obaidMohd

      Posted

      thanks obaid. Very interesting I know of cupping from some time ago but didnt go for a treatment. I think then it was contra indicated for high BP

      I am very glad it has such a good result for you and keep up the information as it is always interesting and useful to keep learning about what people try. do you do this on yourself.

      thanks

  • jacobedwar2015
    jacobedwar2015 richard26983

    Posted

    I had high blood pressure, so i tried herbal remedies and it worked well for me - Drink beet juice daily to lower blood pressure.
  • 1942alexander
    1942alexander richard26983

    Posted

    I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned AME(Apparent Mineralocordocoid Excess). I had a very high blood pressure episode when on holiday about five years back. I was in my late sixties but had been running for fifteen years, including marathons. Although not a fast runner, I rated myself as a very fit old  man, with a resting heart rate of 45 and a record low of 36. I hover around ten stones within a couple of pounds either way so imagine my shock when I finished a training run with swollen ankles and sharp pains in my muscles. Using a friend's BP machine, I tried to get a reading, but failed. I walked to a nearby emergency clinic where they measured me at 240/140. I was given medication to reduce it but the result was not as good as they expected and I had to go back each day for the last few days of the holiday. The day after I got home I went to see my GP who sent me straight to the hospital. I had to leave my car and walk there. The hospital used three machines before they got a reading and kept me there until I came down to 187/? when they sent me back to the GP. Only weeks later, doing some research on blood pressure did I stumble across the trigger of my problem. Although it was never investigated at the time, I am certain that the cause was liquorice, which I had begun to eat a week or two earlier. I was still eating it when they were trying to reduce my BP during the last few days of my holiday. It does not appear to be a well known fact, even in medical circles, that liquorice can be a killer so if anyone on this forum is fond of liquorice sweets take note. Eat with care or they could kill you.
    • derek76
      derek76 1942alexander

      Posted

      Where were you on holiday as heat and altitude can also be factors.?

      When my BP was first diagnosed at 210/110 the hospital did not want me to fly to Barbados on holiday the following week unless it came down. It did to 168/** and they were happy.

       

    • 1942alexander
      1942alexander derek76

      Posted

      Hi Derek, I was in Tenerife in winter (68 C -74C) at almost sea level. I'm in Tenerife at the moment but now cycling instead of running. The temperatures are mainly low seventies but I'm regularly riding as far as I can get up Teide. I've managed to get up to 4097 feet according to Google Earth, so far without any problems. Being a fitness enthusiast, I keep records of weight, BP, runs and rides, and have them back to 1992. My BP rolling (20 reading) average at the moment is 107/69 which is below what my consultant wanted me at so my medication will probably be reduced at the next check-up.
    • derek76
      derek76 1942alexander

      Posted

      Heat has not affected mine and I have walked all day in a lot of hot spots  but altitude does. In Switzerland I could feel it getting higher by the day as we went up the Alps in stages to Jungfrau. In fact I did not do the final part of the journey to the top. Going down by train I could feel it rapidly lowering. 
    • derek76
      derek76 1942alexander

      Posted

      Do you feel OK when it is so low? Mine can go down even lower than yours after exercise and I then feel light headed. Once this week it was 103/50. I much prefer to be in the 140's.
    • 1942alexander
      1942alexander derek76

      Posted

      These are my last 20 readings for systolic, diastolic and heart rate from my spread sheet which give my average of 107/69. As you can see I do go up and down but without any noticable effect. The higher heart rate readings were when the BP was taken after exercise and before fully recovered.

      113 76 48

      97 61 86

      110 83 43

      103 66 78

      108 69 66

      127 76 44

      102 72 46

      107 73 56

      96 61 77

      117 73 48

      104 64 45

      98 61 82

      102 62 55

      97 63 79

      109 73 53

      114 66 57

      109 89 62

      109 60 60

      101 62 51

      120 73 57

    • 1942alexander
      1942alexander derek76

      Posted

      I forgot to add that my consultant wanted my BP to be around 125/75 
    • derek76
      derek76 1942alexander

      Posted

      Your reading would frighten me. My readings would scare the s**t out of you. Even with lows of 103/50 I got a February monthly average of 156/77 51.

      I get tired of cardiologists telling me it is the average that counts.  

    • bullets
      bullets 1942alexander

      Posted

      Hi Alexander

      I replied earlier to the wrong person,  so here goes again :

      My husband has just had a very similar event to the one you had. Like you, started eating licorice bullets (more like overdose of licorice bullets).  He has a very good diet, used to be a serious runner but eventually had coronary artery grafts x 5, six years ago. Even preoperatively, no probs with BP. None post op either but has taken Rapirimil very low dose just to keep pressure off the arteries.

      Good follow up review report on 21 January 2016, by Cardiologist and then commenced his indulgence in licorice bullets. On 6 February we took ourselves to A & E at local hospital where he presented with BP of 211/?   Have not been able to get BP down.   Stopped eating bullets on 2 March after we decided to try to nut out just what he was doing, taking, eating over the period of time before visit to A & E.   Needless to say, he will never eat licorice again but...........having great difficulty in getting ANYONE to take much interest in our own diagnosis for the cause of his increase in BP.

      Still trying to work on getting BP down but am hoping the next week will do it.

      My query is, has your BP stayed down and stable since ceasing the licorice.

      Thanks in anticipation of your reply

  • lorna50768
    lorna50768 richard26983

    Posted

    Today I came to the relization that my bp has been out of control for 28 years.  I have taken Norvasc along with a diuretic. Legs and ankles swell to where I could not wear my shoes. I found out years later it was the side effect of the drug.  I have been on lisinopril 1 1/2 doses twice a day with metoprolol tartrate twice a day. I have now been given an additional rx for a diuretic. I can see that nothing is lowering my blood pressure. This is the reaction from the products we have been injesting thanks to our government allowed take over of Monsanto on our produce, brutalizing meat industry and other toxic chemicals. Then to finish the damage, the medical doctors who have sold out to the pharmacutical industry peddals the meds they barely know anything about.  I'm looking for natural cure ideas.
  • Eijack
    Eijack richard26983

    Posted

    I had much the same problem. I think you have a benign growth on your adrenal gland, as I have, and spironolactone tablets sorted mine out,    Kind Regards
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