High ferrintin

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During a routine blood tests 5 yrs ago aprrox  my ferrintin was found to be high.  The highest it has been was 750 when I had an inflammation in my rt shoulder.  Since then the ferrintin has come down to 325.  The lowest it has been. My GP is not concerned as she has asked the advice of the haematologist who said since my transferrin saturation was 40% just monitor.  Recenty I saw a new dr who did another tests ferrintin 325, transferrin saturation 30%, she has put a note that in my case this is normal for me to have high ferrintin.  I suffer from arthritis and pain and aches in joints but manageable.  I am akso taking 1 teaspoon of hoemade tumeric paste everyday to reduce inflammation. I am a bit concerned should I insist I see a heamatologist.  She did a lot of blood tests and they all came normal.  She said people with genetic haemochromatosis  have ferrintin over 1000.  Should I just leave it and get monitored every 6 months?  Also how to reduce high ferrintin with diet?  Thanks

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    I have just been found to have the 2 mutated genes but my bloods are essentially normal. My daughter was found to have exactly the same earlier this year.  Her doctor would not refer her and said she only needed annual monitoring. However, she also has type1 diabetes and her consultant arranged referral to gastroenterologist.  He was really pleased that she had been referred, even if she only requires to be monitored annually. She has had a liver scan which is also normal.   I think GPs know very little about haemochromatosis.  My GP admitted she wasn't sure what to do and when I told her about my daughter I was referred there and then. In our area it is the gastroenterology department who see us but I know in other areas it may be haematologist.  I would ask to be referred - the worst that can happen is that the hospital discharge you back into GP care but at least you will be under their radar for the future.

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    I am a very high carrier of this Gene, and am very surprised that So Many Dr's dont' know about it. You dont say where you are based.? As a UK based person, Many Dr's here are now aware of it here.My Ferritin was 3000 when firs tfound out thru Blood tests and many different Scans.

    Sadly no Homemade remidies will asisit you, its part of the Desease, Swollen joints and constant tiredness.

    Levels can be found lower in Females that it is males, but if your saying the Ferritin is high,be it a female or male,then yes, see a Hemotolisgist and get it checked out further.

    As for reducing high Iron in a Diet, keep away from high Iron Foods, Spinachge, Watercress,,Breakfast foods. Cornflakes,Rice Crisipes, etc.and of course Guiness.

    As for the joints, most Fish Oils will help with that, Cod liver oil

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      I am based in UK. My ferritin is only 137 but I have the 2 mutated genes. That's what surprised my doctor. My saturation % wasn't checked and I'm having that done in a couple of weeks. The genetic centre advised 3 yearly check but my doctor said he would check me annually. I asked to be referred because the consultant who saw my daughter said he would prefer if everyone was referred to specialist care. I am going to join the haemochromatosis society as they have helpful literature and advice available.

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    HI Marie, I recently found out my ferritin was high, in March I asked for an iron test as I felt tired all the time and expected it to be low but it was 282, GP not worried then retested in June now 308, GP still not worried, although I did see a note on the screen showing test results which said "ferritin too high", google also said anything over 200 for women too high, so a little concerned that my GP not taking notice of hospital results.  Having read your post I am a bit happier as your GP has taken the same stance.  I too have osteoarthritis so maybe that is what is causing it.  I have had a liver function test done which was very good and am due a liver/spleen scan in two weeks as the liver can be damaged by too much iron so asked GP for tests, if scan ok will then asked for retest in 6 months.  Does the tumeric work?  Thanks

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      I am not sure but have read it is very good for inflammation I make a paste every two weeks.  When I had problems with my shoulder with calcified deposits the ferrintin was sky high over 700 but now it is just over 300.  I saw two gps and they do not seem concerned since they think it might be caused by the osteoarthritis.  Did you do a transferrin saturation test if it is below 40% they are not concerned?  When I go for my tests in six months I will ask about the damage it could do to my organs.  My GP is very good and she does not seem concerned unless she does not know much about it but she did write to the consultant who advised her not to do anything unless the transferrin saturation is over 45%.  Why are you having liver/spleen scan if your gp is not concerned?  My usual GP said to retest in 1 yr and another GP said every 6 months. In my notes it said slightly higher but normal for patient.  I saw it online as I can access my medical records.  Thanks
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      Hi Marie, I have not had any tests apart from the bloods, so no saturation tests.  The GP I saw was realitively newly qualified and when she saw the results mentioned haemocromatosis, but said she needed to speak to senior practice GP to get his opinion, which was they are not too bothered and just check every 6 months.  The reason for scan is that I said that high iron can cause problems to liver and heart so was worried about being left so she is sending me for scan on liver/spleen just to make sure that we are going down the right route.  Are you UK, if so how do you access your records?  Take care
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    TS% >45 is an indicator for hereditary haemochromatosis.  Inflammation causes increased ferritin which is different to having haemochromatosis and the cause of the inflammation needs to be addressed.  Fatty liver also causes increased ferritin.

    If you haemoglobin allows, It won't hurt you to donate blood every 3 months if you fit the criteria of the Blood Bank.

    There are too many myths about reducing iron by diet.  Iron is still important to us.  One venesection will take away 50 steaks worth of iron.  Just don't have red meat every meal.  In a serving of one cup of spinach, there is 0.7 milligrams of nonheme iron.  It is a myth.  Parsley is 1.8 milligrams per half cup.  On the other hand, black and kidney beans have 5.2 milligrams of nonheme iron in half a cup.  Lima 4.4, navy beans 2.5.  A pint of Guiness has 0.3 milligrams of iron.  3 pints almost reaches the daily allowance of iron.  Clams are the worst - 9 clams = 10.0 milligrams of heme iron, and 15.o milligrams of nonheme iron, a sirloin steak (3 ozs) is 1.25 of heme iron and 1.2 of nonheme iron.

    All this information from Cheryl Garrison's "The Hemochromatosis Cookbook" - mostly about why it is ok to eat foods with iron in it.

    A study on tea and coffee resulted in no reduction in uptake of iron, but I still drink it (what else) in the hope that it is doing something because I have an aggressive haemochromatosis.  Calcium is the winner though, dairy, i.e. milk, cheese, yoghurt with meals or at end of.

    Can't say it is reducing mine, but maybe I would be worse without it.

    However, as you don't appear to have haemochromatosis, you do not have to try to reduce your iron uptake.

    Probably best to stay away from iron supplemented foods, like some breads and cereals, unless your haemoglobin is low, because there is iron in every food.  However, if you don't have true haemochromatosis where our hepcidin does not turn on to turn off the uptake of iron, then any excess iron will be excreted.

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      Hi Sheryl thanks for your indepth reply.  As I mentioned to Marie, my GP is relatively new and we are erring on the side of caution with tests etc.  I do have marginal fatty liver, whatever that means, GP did not even mention it following a scan of stomach last year, I only found out from a report sent following a gastro appointment.  When I asked why I was not told GP said everyone over 50, who is overweight, which I am will have a fatty liver and therefore they are not worried.  But interesting to note that this may be contributing to my iron levels, along with inflammation from arthritis.  I am now drinking lemon in hot water and taking milk thistle tablets in the hope that this will help my liver become healthier.  I will wait to see if has gone up again in 6 months time. 
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      I am in the uk, I have registered with my practice online and I can access my tests results, book appointment etc.  Next time you have your blood tests ask to have a transferrin saturation test as well.
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      It has been found that to reduce fatty liver, we should eliminate all sugars and starches from our diet.  Stick to protein and lots of greens (and caulfi).  People who have done this discover their waist again, including myself.

      Also I came across a study of a woman who was taking milk thistle for her liver - they found it was interfering with and reducing the amount of ferritin deducted during her venesections.  There may be other liver tonics that do not contain milk thistle.

      I have enough trouble getting enough blood out during my venesections that I stopped taking my liver tonic that contained milk thistle.  At the time I also started taking 100mg aspirin a day, which greatly improved my venesections.  So I don't know if eliminating milk thistle did the job or not!!!!

       

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