How do we talk of eternity?

I'd like to add that when I'm with someone or somewhere else in my astral body my physical body isn't real to me at all; I've completely forgotten it, any sensations or feelings in it don't exist until I come back.

This is a totally new idea for me, Georgia. When you had ME did you loose the ability to astra travel? Did you recover the ability after you recovered from ME.

ME robs you of life doesn't it. You can do so little and for such a long time. And people look at you and say you are looking well. They mean it kindly but it is tiresome when you know you hardly living at all. I do hope you have recovered and I have not made a false assumption.

I haven't recovered and I've had it for nearly 10 years. I'm not quite as bad as I was at first due to herbs and good diet but I'm virtually bed ridden and very isolated.

I find it almost impossible to meditate since I've had ME. I'd either fall asleep or not be able to focus so I don't even try now. I probably should but I haven't got the motivation or will to do it any more.

Have you got ME or have you had it? You really understand what it's like. 

One more thing is that meditation and astral travel takes a lot of energy, which I don't have now.

O Georgia, I am so sorry. I had ME or something very like it, some autoimune reaction to the chemical polutants started probably by Lindane (now banned) wood preservative in the house we had moved to. Plus the surrounding area was very unhealthy. That was compounded by a consultant who lied as to the severity of his treatment and when it made me worse he refused to think again. I remember little of those ten years. For many of them I could think for the first half hour on getting up in the morning. The rest of the day I was hopeless. It was sheer endless, boring, foggy-grey misery. It is a ten year hole in my life. I maybe count 74 in birthdays but only 64 in life lived and experienced.

Yes Georgia, you have my heartfelt sympathy. But so few have any understanding. "Buck ... pull yourself together ... take more exercise" All these and the like although well meant are such cruel insults, Such hurtful wounds. My poor Georgia. My cure took a long time. First, I don't know where the resolve came from. Even a simple decision could take a day, even two or three days. A simple sentense took enormous concentration with the words emerging two or three at a time.  Yet I did tell the consultant I would take no more of his treatment. "Is that fair on me." he replied. "What if I never come back?" He seemed happy with that. We moved house. My wife took advice and applied a diet. First a period of nothing but filtered water, boiled brown rice and pears. Then foods were added one by one to discover the ones I could tollerate. At some stage I also had Christians prayer for my healing. In fits and starts, often the starts in response to prayer, I gathered strength until I was reasonably normal, if you think me that today.

Thank you for your compassion George! And for making me feel so hopeful because if you got well after 10 years of it then perhaps I will too. I developed multiple chemical sensitivities as well as ME. I do believe that dangerous chemicals have a terrible effect on our health.

When I was first ill I went to Harley St to get my mercury/silver amalgam fillings out because I had mercury poisoning. Just before I got ill my landlord had painted my walls, the pipes were old and my water filter used to have black, green, yellowy slime in it. I drank that water without a filter for around 12 years!

I think lots of things have contributed, I had an ex boyfriend stalker for around a year so my anxiety levels hit the roof and I got a really bad flu that lasted a full month before I got ME.

But this is good isn't it, because if the body's been damaged by these things and I'm now living in a cleaner chemical free environment, and drinking water from a Berkfeld ceramic water filter my body should gradually repair itself as oppose to it being a generic disease?

I'm so glad you got well; that's amazing! And I'm sure you can pack more living into what you have left to make up for those 10 years; think of them as a learning experience in which you gained more compassion for others and more faith from people's prayers? 

Dear Georgia, 

Thank you for those sweet words. How is it that I can spend 73 1/2 years with hardly a tear other than those induced by a stiff nor'easterly off the North Sea in February? And in 6 1/2 months on this forum I have tears and smiles of the most profound and satisfying sort? I have said it before and I say it again with increased confidence, I am glad, profoundly glad to be part of this forum. Yes glad, even though it took two agressive prostate cancer tumours to get me here. Initially I was terrified, panic struck. Dudley will confirm that. My! did he not give me some straight talking. What else is my entrance fee? Hormone therapy on going for up to 3 years so go bye to a pleasant sex life (poor wife too). And the new risks that go with it. Then there is radiotherapy. Some of the (unlikely) risks are rather terrifying. The early (acute) side effects. Nodding off before the TV in the eveings might be counted a side benefit. Anorexia. Disliking the thought of food let alone eating the stuff and feeling unwell aftwards. A gut that is unreliable and conspires with bladder to provide agony in addition to frequency. And there is bladder that responds with agony when asked to perform the emptying ceremony. The catheter is a positive boon exciting my most grateful thanks. Yes, I have seen what other men write about their catheters. With all that said,  I am glad to be among you, so very glad. 

We are indeed a band of brothers and sisters, whether suffing ailments or carers and several of us who are both, successively and concurrently. Heros all. Amongst all you marvelous heros, there is one I hold in especial estime. A widow, yet she two years after the death of her beloved husband she is still amongst us, ministering to us, consoling and encouraging. Yes I am glad to be among such a company.

Yes Georgia, take heart. ME does resolve especially if you can find what works for you and what sets you back. Some years ago a fragrance was fashionable. It was called 'Poison' If I passed a wearer of it in the street I was ill within minutes. Whatever was the ingredient that caused the problem for me it was in some other products for I reacted in the same way. I hope you have success in working your way out of ME. It is a long slow road. Pitting your wits against it will hasten the day your energy gets back to something  like normal. But hastening the process can hold one back.

I wish you every success.

George

You've caused tears in my eyes! I couldn't cry for years but I got the ability back a little a few years ago, thankfully!

Wow you've really been through the mill haven't you, yet you're full of grace and no bitterness so you haven't let the illnesses destroy you, rather make you stronger.

What you said about pitting wits against it but not hastening the process really makes sense. I'll try and remember that. Thanks! 

Bless you Georgia, bless you.

Bless you!