How do you deal with teminal cancer

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How do you deal with stage 4 cancer and know there is nothing else.

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    Peter I have tried twice to send you a longer reply encouraging you to believe in God, that He will help you and sustain you. But my ipad becomes over-sensitive and wipes it.

    The gist of what I wanted to say to you is : 

    You are NOT alone. God will send you His Comforter. If you believe this promise,  then you shall have it. And you will be able to bear with courage whatever may befall you. I will pray for you. Please read and re-read John 14 and...BELIEVE.

    Dudley

     

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    I don't know about prostate cancer but I have a friend at a late stage with cancer in multiple organs. She was having a very rough period of weeks. She then went into a hospice to help both her and her exausted husband. When there her medication was changed and her quaility of life considerably improved. She went home and although weak we have gone out to a restaurant for lunch and are planning another outing next week. She still has fun on these outings but is very tired by the time she gets home. 

    I have taken particular interest as I think her experiences my soon be helpful to me in the management of my prostrate troubles. ( I am just setting out on that road an may well end up in a very similar situation to the one she is in.)

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    Hi Peter, I read with interest what Dudley wrote. I too have confidence that because of what Jesus Christ the Son of God has done for me and all others who trust in him there is a future and better life beyond the grave. Death thus is not a problem for me. Getting through the process of leaving my present mortal, fallible body is a problem and I feel very much for you. As you will see from the discussion I started, I am already very anxious. I have no symptoms: I am perfectly well, but I fear greatly the road ahead. Lest Dudley worries unduly on my account, I am fully aware and confident that the Lord Jesus Christ will see me safely through what trials lie ahead, but they may even so be troublesome, distressing and painful. But like my friend I wrote of  there is hope, a certain hope, of a better morn.
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    Thank you very much for your support. my sister and i were bought up in a very strictt roman catholic  family. My farther was  converted so that they could marry. As a child  this involved church every morning before school and three times on sunday one of those of course Sunday School. I left home at 14 and went off to Sea. Im now 74 and recently my sister told me that you only go to heaven if your a born again christian. She also said she stopped being church of England because she did not agree with thier policy and was now baptist.

    its not that im a non believer, I know im going to  die and much as i understand how people see it and deal with it. i dont know.what will happen if any thing at all. I told my sister there will be a lot of disapointed people. where do the muslims,the jews the mormons and all the other hundreds of religions in the world and are going and are they wrong.

    I deal with this illness in a very simple manner.This is war. this is some thing thats attacking me personnaly and im not going to be beaten and if I am going to go, it will be going down fighting.

    My mother died of cancer at the age of 47 and in great pain.Her religion made no difference to her.no one came to save her.

    I dont know the answers and I have to deal with this in the only way i know.Maybe cancer is the devil and it is ill give him a run for his money. Yes its a journey and there are very few choices but im not giving up.

    Everyone deals with it in thier own way and I respect your opoinion.

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      Thank you Peter for that careful explanation. I understand what you are saying and at one time held fairly similar views. The facts that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin, that is without a human father, begat by the Holy Spirit and rose from the dead never more to die places him uniquely in human history and authenticates his claims and teachings. No religion has such a base, only the God and man Jesus Christ is the foundation on which we must rely. I wish you well in your battle. George
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    Hi All

    As I have mentioned,  I tried to send Peter a longer message of hope and encouragement.  But unfortunately my ipad becomes touch pad over sensitive and can and does wipe typing.   I think it thinks,  I am too slow. ( It's right ! ).

    I read both yours and George's recent posts with interest Peter.

    I empathise with you.  But would contend that there is nothing wrong with the Christian Faith.  But there is PLENTY wrong with Religion(s).  Run by Men,  of course.  Fallible,  prejudiced, self-serving, hypocritical,  etc.

    However,  each of us can nonetheless have and should for our Soul's sake have,  a personal relationship with God.  

    Through God,  in the form of supplication in prayer and private conversation with Jesus ( Emmanuel,  God with us.) And by God,  in the form of Grace we receive through the Holy Spirit.

    God knows who His people are and no matter what country, creed or religion they are,  He will gather them to Himself.

    What man would not help another trusting in him ?   Śo it is with our Father.

    God as Jesus greeted everyone he met with the blessing of peace. 'My peace I give unto you. Not as the world gives, give I unto you ',

    Wow!  Fantastic. Thanks.

     

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      I heartily agre with Dudley's comments Peter. I hope you might be enouraged that although we are at different stages in our prostate journeys we can feal for you and share with you what makes sense in a world of splendour mixed with confusion, violence, hurt and greed. I don't want to bang on about it, but if you would like us to share more with you, please let us know. Learning to know the Lord Jesus I have found to be like a journey and progress is made little by little. Best wishes Peter, George
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    Hello Peter,

    I have been wondering how you are ? And hoping that you are currently travelling reasonably well and are not in too much discomfort nor distress ?

    If you feel up to it pleas let us know how things are with you.

    Best wishes,

    Dudley 

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    A Dear friend who has suffered many months of  paliative care for kidney cancer mestastetised to many sites including various bones has been suffering intense pain. The palliative care team have frequenly changed the medication but with a distressing time lag after the pain has become most distressing. My friend has not complained other than she is not kept informed about what the team are doing. 

    Yesterday she went to the Hospice for the third time. By evening she was in a coma. Her husband, distressed and weary after an all night vigil dropped in on us on his way home. He told us of the situation and invited us to visit. This will be the second friend I have visited in such circumstances. The first I did so not thinking for a second that I might become a cance sufferer. This time I am all too aware that my friend may be going before me if my therapy does on yield a cure. Yet I will do the same for both of these friends are disciples of the Lord Jesus. I will pray clearly and audibly and also read aloud from the Bible. Although I will get no response I will do this in the hope that they will still be listening,mor at least their spirit will be.. 

    I remember one time decades ago when I was having difficulty in recovering conciousness from a general anesthetic the comfort and power I gained from a nurse reading to me from my Bible.

  • Posted

    Thank you for enquiring.

    Life has been a bit of a roller coaster but im still here.The hormone treatment stopped working about 18 months ago and the cancer showed up in the lymph nodes in my abdomen.The oncologist said we must watch and wait.That caused me great concern. i was not aware at that time there was a reason.

    In order to qualify for funding for abritorone is that the cancer has spead to a specific point. The treatment in the UK is £900 a week.I started around august 2013.

    I do not produce PSA and therefore a scan is the only measure.I discovered early on that abritorone is very senistive to certain medications. I was on anti biotics which caused sever headaches. stomach pain and sickness.I had to see the oncologistt urgently. She told me that the last scan showed progression of the cancer with new grows and not looking good. i asked her for a prognosis. she said I had around 12 months. I went down hill rapidly. I couldnt help my self.My only option was cemotherapy which she said I wouldnt tolerate. I guess i was pretty low for two weeks and then i thought what the hell are you doing.

    My blood pressure was high and I felt realy ill.

    the problem was not the cancer. I suffer from lymthameda caused by the damage to the lymth glands by the radiation. Diabetes 2 caused by the steriods part of the treatment and my blood showed i was low on phospates. the later being the main problem once that was rectified i began to feel better.

    My last three scans show the cancer has shrunk back and no new signs. im getting treatment for my legs and the diabetes seams to be under control.

    The solution seams to me to be very simple. In this day and age doctors are specialists, they deal only with what they do. Where my GP should be co ordinating the other issues she doesnt.The reason for that is she objects to the £900 a week its costing the NHS. So the coordination is down to me.

    I take the view its my life and If i want to stay alive it is no use depending on others.

     I want/need to know where i am and what goes on. My GP tells me that many parients dont. Thats thier problem and not mine.

    Ive had bladder stones remover which are caused by urine retention and build up of minerals in the bladder. They cause bleeding and have to be remover by laser.

    I am feeling much better and more possitive but i can say that its entirely down to the medical team.

    So im still here I dont know for how long but as long as i possibly can.

    Merry christmas to you all.

    • Posted

      Thank you for the greeting Peter. I hope you have a happy time over the holiday season. Thank you too for the example both in fortitude and the benefits of being your own executive 'doctor'. It is wonderful having the ability to compensate for a GP who is unwilling to provide the coordination that your complex situation needs. 
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      Hello Peter,

      You are clearly battling along manfully and your stoicism and resolve are much to be admired.

      It is however both puzzling and seems very sad that you are not currently getting 100% support from your G. P. due to,   as you understand it,  her disapproval of the cost of your therapy.  I simply don't understand that.  But if to explain would tire you or send up your B.P. please don't not her to respond.

      i send you my very best wishes for a peaceful and comforting

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      ... Holiday Season and hope that the New Year will afford you more hope, support and comfort than the last.

      Regards

      Dudley

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