How do you know?
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Someone recommend Vagifem, a pessary for vaginal dryness to me...So my question is how do you know you have vaginal internal dryness. I am prone to thrush and recently have wondered if it is coming back, or whether its something else, namely lichen sclerosus, my symptoms have been a kind of hot internal irritation every now and then, but not enough to bother me too much, so I wanted to ask what symptoms, if any, people experience, because I dont know whether this is normal or not or whether its the onset of thrush...I should mention that I have this condition quite mild, and oral lichen planus more severe...any help would be great please. I dont want to start buying diflucan and using that if I dont need it.
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Morrell1951 Guppy007
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I think you'll find that Lichen sclerosis by definition is external. Lichen planus is inside the vagina. Hope that helps.
doreen17521 Guppy007
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marey Guppy007
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may i just enquire as to why you would consider a biopsy? treatment is the same ie as for autoimmunity whether planus or sclerosus....nothing else is effective and you only get another scar. i ask just to invite you to consider whether you need more info when a competant person has already advised you. a biopsy won't help you heal...its just another layer of pain and difficulty.
i hope i'm not intruding with these comments...but hope this helps with your decision one way or the other.
very best wishes
marey xxxxx
Guppy007 marey
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marey Guppy007
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It does seem i've crossed over with someone else who had had a visual diagnosis of LS ...but was further considering a biopsy...
I see your issue is between lichen planus and sclerosus. I had just wanted to mention that the author of a book has cured herself of planus.
I am so sorry for the confusion....please forgive me.
Guppy007 marey
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marey doreen17521
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I can give you the personal or the political answer? Just don't want to be attacked!!
marey Guppy007
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great that you have minimal symptoms. what is diflucan please?
if you have had a history of thrush its likely that your internal flora and fauna lining the gut is disturbed. This is pretty common knowledge now I appreciate but not everyone has heard that its advisable to take pro-biotics after a course of anti-biotics. ...so i thought I'd mention it.
All these conditions are connected and have a route cause which is intestinal permeability.
Specifically LS is diagnosed in terms of differentiation by inflammation and extreme itching of the external vulva and white pre-cancerous patches.
Most of us probably were driven to our GP's by the extreme itching of the vulva. Its very localised for me and external. Was that the answer you sought?
There are photos on pubmed which would prob help you in your enquiries/investigations...or google pics of LS. Think thats were I found a photo resource.
But anyway do ask for an internal at your GP Surgery. A nurse might perform a gynae exam and take swabs...but this is all about the end result and not the cause. Happily many GP's and their staff are interested in working with patients who are exploring their own health care and trying to find natural methods of working with the body.
I'm bit worried you may be trying to self diagnose with a view to prescribing yourself something allopathic. This just adds to the antibiotic burden that we're all suffering at the mo.
All those hand sanitisers anti-biotic soaps and other chemical products cause such harm. I'm happy to put forward my perspective further but don't want to force anything! Just if you are asking!!
Guppy007 marey
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I was diagnosed with oral lichen planus many years ago.
I also have lichen planus.
Last year I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis.
I was recently diagnosed with lichen sclerosis.
So..... whilst I know what the symptoms of lichen sclerosis are, mainly external, in my original post I was trying to find out and differentiate between thrush and lichen sclerosis, as I thought maybe the itchy burning feeling internally could be related somehow to lichen sclerosis, I thought perhaps Lichen Sclerosis may also effect you internally, and that maybe I did not have thrush as I suspected.....bearing in mind that I have only been diagnosed recently with lichen sclerosis, so I was unsure of what to expect.....also my tongue was an off white colour which further confused things, as that is a classic sign of thrush.....I hope this makes sense.
Anyway as an update, I have had severe oral lichen planus, which was chronic, in my mouth, on my tongue, like nothing I have ever experienced before in the past, and I believe I also had lichen planus down below which was causing the discomfort...as well as the lichen sclerosis of course!....its possible I also had thrush too, as I have had all the symptoms of Candida, which I suspect is linked somehow to the lichen planus family somehow.
I have been taking something which is a very effective treatment for Candida, and that in conjunction with my homeopathy treatment, Arsenicum Album, which I have successfully used for years to treat oral lichen planus, my symptoms have gone internally, and my tongue is slowly starting to recover and look better every day.
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Because I have Ulcerative Colitis my diet is crucial, and I eat carefully and healthily, taking probotics also.
So I'm hoping that I will just continue to get better, auto immune diseases are complex and very debilitating...that's for sure!
marey Guppy007
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so much happier for you that you're on to it. Also with support from a homeopath.
PLEASE will you check out The Paleo Mum ...Sarah has written a book about healing Lichen Planus. Its all about the gut.
Will you keep coming back here so we can communicate more. I see you making huge progress.
Love Marey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Guppy007 marey
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marey Guppy007
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Well I shall check in with you from time to time and am here for you should you wish to call!
Loads of love to you and the beautiful children with whom you work.
Marey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx