How I cured my gastritis

The lack of sleep, the constant pain, the side effects of some medication, the lack of calories, I felt wiped all the time when I was sick!

But the good thing is that you know that if you avoid certain foods, like pizza, you feel better. If you can stay away from them for a few months, you will feel good again.

 

I used to have IBS but it went away when I stopped eating gluten. Actually recently I started eating spelt which contains a little bit of gluten (but the protein of gluten is slightly different) and I tolerate a little bit of it.

I avoid beans, lentils and cabbage too.

It was a moment of madness. Ive not eaten bread for a while. But I was feeling really well and the pizza looked fab and it was a very very thin base. I won't be forgetting Sunday in a hurry. Total wipe out! 

When you say good quality water what do you mean? I filter mine is this not good enough?

I WILL try anything

I am not sure. I think when they burn the coffee it creates a toxin that might be irritating but I am not sure. I would stay away from it but if you can't live without coffee, I guess the only thing to do is try it and see how you feel afterwards.

I had that when I had IBS, mostly hard stools though. It went away when I stopped gluten.

Than when I was very sick with gastritis, my stool were very very soft and a weird light tan color. They got harder and darker while I was improving.

Thank you ines6375 for replying.

I have mild gastritis. I had took prilosec about 2 months and quited becaues it didnt help much. So  I tried you to cure myself bby taking turmeric, probilotic and change my deite. It seems to be better but I sill having some wired stool issue, sometime very hard and sometime very loose or watery a couple days and went away. I dont know what to do. Should I do colonoscopy.  But last time I see my GI doctore, he said I should do when I am 52.  

 

Hi Irene,

What helped me was to stop eating all dairy, including hard cheese (the protein in milk, casein, makes the stomach produce excess acid. Sometimes I would have a little bit grated very thin with the microplane on my food but it is not recommended), avoid almond milk, start dexilant 60 mg (I had to take it for two months only at 60mg, one month at 30 mg and one month at 30 mg every other day. I am finishing the fourth month and I feel good) and eat a big portion of carbs at every meal: preferably rice or potatoes (they are a good buffer). You are right to avoid fat, especially peanut butter, and milk, they made me sick too.

When I was very sick I managed more or less to keep my weight but I did not gain any weight. As soon as I started to get better (mostly because of the dexilant and the diet), I started being VERY hungry, and I gained a few pounds.

If you miss sugary food, you could try maple syrup; it is not great but it is not really bad either.

Try eating 4 meals but the last meal early. The best times for me were breakfast around 8 am, lunch around 11 am, snack around 3 pm, dinner around 6 pm. Have a big bowl of rice, potatoes or oatmeal at least three times a day.

I recommend a big glass of vegetable juice every day too, preferably romaine or lettue or fennel + carrots + celery. It won't really help with your weight but you will get a lot of vitamins and it is easy to drink with lunch or dinner. I felt that it was very good for my body. And the beta-carotene is good for the repair of tissues.

I was good for a couple of weeks, until I got on the scale and saw I lost 3 more lbs. don't understand I eat real good diet. So I started eating too much too fast, then by 4 pm I was too full to eat supper, and had a terrible fullness.

i have gastroparesis where my stomach doesn't empty kind a normal stomach, I take Domperidone before meals to help move the food, that's my main problem. I take dexilant 60 mg at bfrt and Pepcid 20 at bedtime works good for me, but I need to gain weight. I do a lot of walking to help with my digestion. I think I'm walking off the calories. 

Do you have a juicer? For the veggies, can I use bottled juice, I don't have a juicer. I have rice or potatoes just like you and fish and chicken everyday.

what do you do when you go out visiting and you have your schedule to eat, my stomach feels better when I eat light meals, but like I said I need to gain some weight, I'm so skinny,I look like a child.

Hi Irene,

I also lost a lot of weight very fast few months ago. I had/have a very similar as yours and Ines'. Lately I've been gaining weight because I have a weakness for sweet stuff and thus I usually look for recipes of muffins and cakes, but gluten free, dairy free (vegan or paleo diet recipes) and replacing sugar by either maple syrup, stevia or recently I have been trying coconut sugar. Instead of butter I use olive oil/coconut oil but in smaller amounts than the recipe. I usually look for these recipes in internet. The resulting muffins/cakes are not the tastiest in the world but for my 'sweet' cravings have been perfect, gastritis friendly and I have gained quite some weight. For instance, I just prepared a home made energy bar with quinoa flakes, few sunflower seeds and pecans, very few almonds, coconut oil, coconut sugar, chia seeds and few raisins (before I could not tolerate them, now it seems OK) and use vanilla flavour sweetened with stevia. Also, sometimes I prepare sweet potatoes with maple syrup and have it as dessert. I do not eat fruit with lunch or dinner, so the sweet potatoes have been perfect.

Another reason why I gained weight is because I increased the amount of olive oil. Before, I was eating zero oil to the point I stopped getting my period...so I had to begin to use olive oil, I did it very slowly. I use it mainly with salads and put a bit in other meals, always small amounts. Also I am experimenting with coconut oil and ghee which as far as I understand is gluten and casein free.

Almond milk also causes me problems, but I got me an almond milk cheese which seems to be OK. I just eat a small piece once in a while and a piece of hard cheese once in a while as well.

I've been increasing amount of carbs as well. Somehow I can tolerate only one brand of gluten free crakers  (glutino brand) but I've been having trouble finding a bread I can tolerate. Spelt bread seems to be OK and also I got me some brown rice english muffins which do not cause me discomfort. So called paleo diet bread were OK for me but are not that delicious. Be careful with already made gluten free and vegan products, because sometimes they contain ingredients that are not good in our situation, I always always read labels. Lately I've decided to make my own bread...

 

Hi lady, have you ever tried gluten free pancakes they are very good, but now I'll try the maple syrup.  I also like Undis brand bread, it's very good, I like  it beeter then the gluten bread. I've tried making my own bread, didn't come out to good. I use coconut oil in everything. I wish I could ear green salads, as I heard they are hard to digest. What so you put on your crackers,

lady,my biggest problems is my slow moving stomach, I have that gastroparesis, the food moves out real slow, if I over due it's stay full forever.

does it bother you when you eats sugar?would do you drink for a milk product, I've tried them all and almond seems the best. Are the muffins in a prepared box, I feel good eating my foods,but I can't gain weight with this diet. Thanks for your help. What do you do when you travel, that's my biggest problems, cause I hate to sit home, very depressing.

Can you tolerate coffee, I drink homemade ginger tea, and have one cup every morning before breakfast.

any other suggestions you may think of, I'd appreciate.

thanks again.

I used food for life for gluten-free bread, I feel ok with it but not as good as when I eat just rice or oatmeal. The farmer's market has a delicious spelt bread from an organic biodynamic farm. I asked them to make me a special batch of white spelt bread.

For milk substitute, I tolerate best rice milk.

When I am invited, I eat a full meal just before going and I take more food with me: another full meal + melon + coconut water + chamomile tea bags.

I apologize to my hosts and explain the situation. Some close friends have also cooked special bland meals for me.

For the juices it is better to make it yourself. Bottled juice are acidified for preservation (with ascorbic acid or lemon juice which are bad for us). I use the breville compact juicer. It costs $100. My best investment of the year!

Hi Irene,

I gave up buying already made baked goods, or the mixes to prepare them at home. The reason is that recently I was diagnosed with bacterial overgrowth and I have to follow a low FODMAP diet for one or two months. Among others, I should not eat honey, agave, corn syrup, sugars that end in -ol, fructose, inulin, chicory root, molasses. Most of the gluten free brands I've found out there have one of those sugars or other ingredients I cannot eat. I recall there is an ingredient in the Undis brand I cannot eat, but don't remember exactly which one. I've also realized that in fact, some of these sugars cause me discomfort or pain, specially inulin which is found in most organic/vegan brands. The sugars I can eat are: sugar (but very recently, anyways I avoid it whenever I can), glucose, pure maple syrup, stevia. I do use them in small quantities though. Lately I've discovered coconut sugar, which is not that great, it is not that sweet but it's OK. I drink unsweetened hemp milk and coconut milk instead of cow milk. I feel discomfort with almond milk and lately with chamomile tea, but I've been observing my self, I think the problem is the temperature of the tea. The less hot the better.

I used to put on my crackers almond cheese, or a veggan variety of cream cheese or sour cream, but I always always read labels.  Sometimes I put maple syrup on the crackers or recently I've been doing my own marmelade, with some fruit I can tolerate (lately I can tolerate blueberries), maple syrup, chia seeds and vanilla sweetened with stevia. I use just a bit on my crackers, it is soo good.

Irene, regarding your gastroparesis I would like to tell you a experience I had at the beginning of my gastritis treatment. I was given metoclopramide (along with Omeprazole) which is also used for gastroparesis. My estomach was emptying so fast, I was always starving, so I was eating a lot of small meals and gained weight quite fast. Perhaps that the reason you do not gain weight is more related to absorption than the gastroparesis itself.

At the beginning I was also having lots of issues when going out, at some point I stopped going out. However, asian food, specially vietnamese turns out to be quite good and less problematic. When I travel, I take plenty of food with me. I somehow got used to it. I have some plastic containers, that I also use to bring my food to work. I bring my home made quinoa muffins, or energy bars, or crackers, my bread with almond cheese, cantaloupe, steamed  veggies. Lately I'm tolerating  raw veggies, so I bring salad.  I do the same as Ines when I'm invited to somebody else's house, I either eat before or bring my food and apologize.

When traveling and my food supplies are exhausted, either I try to find a place I can get some grilled fish, steamed vegetables and baked potatoes, or I look for a noodle house or asian place, and ask for a bowl of soup made with rice noodles and chicken, I point out: no onions, or green onions, no chili, garlic, no peanuts, and I always say to the staff: I am alergic to all that, if you put it on my soup I'll die right here!...quite dramatic, but believe me if you do not point out that, they will bring you a soup with green onions and peanuts.

 

Hi Irene, I'm struggling the same, I have gastritis and have lost 22lb and really dont want to lose any more. I juice everyday veg, and fruit I include spiralina and wheatgrass. And have clean food. I'm still losing weight. I've also got a low white blood count, don't know if this is connected to Gastitis. Has anyone else had this?

Yes, wife had low WBC's....what other labs were out of range? if any..and was a TSH included?

What do you think caused your Gastritis?

Claudio

No other labs out of range. My WBC has been done 4 times now, it has got lower not by much but lower. Doc have just told me to get it done again in 2 weeks. They are not telling me why this is happening or suggesting anything to help bring it back to normal.

what is TSH?

no idea what caused the gastritis. Apart from high stress levels 

thanks for your help

fyi...wife went from 124lbs to 95....she is now up to 104lbs....but hasn't increased weight for 2 months...I attribute this to "lack of food compliance". Her labs are within range.

With no other lab results out of range...especially your absolute mono and lymphocytes, RBC's all within range...probably Gastritis related.

TSH is thyroid....GI did not suggest this nor did our GP...I asked for it anyway and paid out of pocket...results were "HYPO"...meaning low output..added "nori/japanese seaweed" to her diet and re tested 2 months,'thyroid "normal

Stress can cause havoc on everything.

Our stomach lining has literally thousands and thousands of micro cells that produce "enzymes"....absolutely needed for digestion that takes place in the stomach...properly and complete digestion before food travels to the small intestine for further processing. When the stomach lining is inflammed....the production of these enzymes are compromised. The remaining (hopefully) are the enzymes from the Panco and Liver.. hcl and pepsin production from the stomach lining don't seem to be affected. But they cannot do all of the "break down (catobolization) of foods...so without some of the others...its possible chyme goes down without being complete...thus the small intestine may not be able to catabolize some stuff thus non absorption and sent to the colon as waste.

The priority would then seem to be....putting out the fire....and restoring the lining as quickly as possible. A nutritionist that will target this process may be best...In some limited cases, diets that reduce irritations to the lining have had some success...givng the lining an opportunity to heal.

There is one research group that is attempting to build a protocol for mucosal repair...I know the enzymes and the vitamins/supplements but not the forumula nor the process...The main amino is L-Glutamine, so do some research on this to see if you might add it to your juicing for possible benefit....start..smart....no more than 2gm per...initially to see how it goes..(constipaption) about 5% of the time but 5 to 10 gm...body builders use mega gms without any issues. Claudio

Thanks for this donclaudio, my thyroid test was fine. I have been taking L Glutamine for some months. I have been juicing for around 6 months as some days I cannot eat anything. I dcabbage juice for a while. Not nice, but it did quite my stomach. I feel I get more help on here than with my GP.

 

Good goings...what dosage of L Glutamine...raw or in capsules?....

I started wife at 2gm daily for a week...then 2gm x 2 daily for 2 weeks...back down to 2gm daily for about a week then stopped for a month..they restarted again...similar.

Can you do soy without difficulties?

Claudio

500mg a day.  In capsules. Yes I can do Soy.

how is your wife doing?

 

hmm...picture a young goat as happy as a kid can be....that's her...cannot tie her down....she feels good....looks good...but

she isn't 100%...When she can grasp what's good or best and

not revert back to her previous habits when she was 100%...she'll

be 100%. Not easy..

Re soy: I suspect some of the amino's, enzymes/supplements might be within some organic soy isolate powders....I'll dig into them later today and hopefully resolve some of my unanswered questions....I have tried several times to get to the Research being done at the Shanghai Nutritional Lab but haven't the credentials... asked a friend who is an MD and TCM Dr in Jinan if I could "borrow" her 's?....wating....have my doubts but gotta try...Claudio

You're so knowledgable. Is this your job? I know how you're wife feels. I booked myself on a 3day juice retreat. Loads of exercise on 4 juiciest a day. I felt amazing. All my confidence in my body was back. I'm 56 but felt 36!  Then last weekend I had pizza. My body failed me, I slept. Woke in a fog, the pain was unbearable, I slept. Back on the juice a week later much excerciseing  back feeling nearly good.

im in the UK doctors not good at listening about other methods of healing. They just keep giving me PPIs they make me feel bad. 

wow so pleased you "back on track"...many MD's regardless of location are poor listeners..when reading abstracts...do only the conclusions or results...There are new scientific revelations every day some of value.

With only juice and exercise...sounds like you might be expending more energy than complete intake? How are you dealing with this?

To answer your questions/s

It became a full time job at different times in my life… as a father of 4, and at age 57 had to rehab my mom who was Voodoo treated at a noted Hospital, and again when wife developed ovarian cancer 4 years ago. ...I'm 77...wife is 60..

Juice....would like to garner some important info from you... please…

1. fruit....juice only/liquid or with it’s other components as well

2. vegetable...same as above

3. what fruit/vegetable do you avoid. (exclude herbs, spices etc)

4. any other info you deem valuable.

Both Chinese and Japanese Traditional Medical practice often use “juicing/herbals” after a “fast”…I consider this something like “digestive rebooting”…Was told “timing” is everything”..

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In healthy individuals the digestive system can process fruit from top to bottom in 30 minutes.....meaning from the mouth, stomach..dudenum, small intestine, kidney/bladder/colon.

Not pizza... ....take only the cheese first it”s "processed food".

I think fruit juice requires only a very few enzymes to process completely thru the entire digestive system....

but just for the cheese...too many (5,000?) and it requires "sequential" processing......its content is mixed and concentrated…...protein, lactose, fat, sodium etc... all must be catabolized, sterilized , using different enzymes at different PH and at different stages/time…not all of these processes work in harmony…some content may get digested completely, some partially, some maybe not at all…even for healthy individuals.

I’m assuming….the “character” of your digestive system enzyme wise is programmed for Juicing…a new or different food when one has a digestive issue can have serious difficulty getting processed …what’s usually needed is a gradual change in food..very gradual ….An Example, those who cannot do fruit/vegetable …must first put one (1) food piece into their mouth…slowly chew..and take in only the liquid/taste..then toss the balance down the drain, to be done a few times a day for a few days.……that’s kinda slow but it works most of the time….raw foods…not cooked or processed.

I obtained some of this info/practice from my 95 year old Chinese Traditional Medical Dr In China maybe 14 or 15 years ago…and was relative to raw vs cooked foods. Cooked foods were introduced gradually after Homeostasis was obtained with some patient exceptions.

Looking forward to your juicing info…Claudio

Hello donclaudio, hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation with Jayne here....I am in the UK as she is and been struggling with the same issues, and also as she says UK GPs are not interested in giving you anything other than PPIs. I took them for 4 years but stopped around 6 yrs ago and do not intend to go back to them. 

I am a similar age to your wife. I have had gastritis/duodenitis for 10 yrs now, and as I am hypothyroid I reckon that is one of the issues for me, as it's now chronic. In fact I think mine is autoimmune.

I do improve my gastritis but unfortunately find it hard to stick to the rigid diet that seems to be the only thing to control it. I am getting help from a medical herbalist now too.

Anyway, I too do juicing as Jayne does, and I alter the ingredients as time goes on. When I am at my worst then I find fruit hard to tolerate, but am not so bad with pears and apples. I seem able to tolerate most vegetables, so I put in carrot, beetroot, cucumber, lettuce, and avocado mostly. Actually it's not a juicer as such, but is a Vitamix. The trouble with juicers is they take out all the good things whereas a Vitamix (or Nutribullet) will keep all the pulp which is good for you, but it reduces it to a v smooth texture.

I also put in ginger, and coconut milk and a little coconut oil. Also seeds and nuts. When my stomach is healed I also add a little cacao.

I am mostly on a Paleo diet, and I find cooked food more soothing on the stomach than raw food sometimes, but I do have both during the day. I suppose it is the warmth that is soothing.

I avoid dairy (mostly though I have butter and a bit of sheep yogurt), grains and all processed food. It's really hard to keep to the diet all the time though especially if I am out or travelling.

I am pleased to hear from you..you contribute significant info to this thread.

you seem to eat a variety of foods that youv e determine are nutritious and tolerated. The combo of greens and a

vocado are excellent for complete digestion..suggest to not add anything else except very young greens. seeds and nuts while tastey are different oils than avocado and

makes the combo a bit more difficult to digest. young greens have less cellulose thus easy digestive. plus thus combo should accelerate mucosal healing.

thanks for sharing ..helpful and informative..claudio

Thank you for that tip donclaudio. I do know that the 'autoimmune protocol' also says to avoid seeds and nuts too, at least to begin with, and as I have a couple of autoimmune things going on it's something to bear in mind.

Perhaps I should skip them for a few weeks until it's healed again or eat them with other things. My poor stomach must think it's on a roller coaster as it improves and then gets worse again when I lapse on the diet.

I often have home made soup when I am at my worst too so that I am then having 2 liquid meals in the day, and maybe have solid food for the last meal.

Hi donclaudio..hope you don,t mine i am write in your conversation here...i already had gastritis for 1 year and a month...usually mostly nausea and vomiting...but recently...nausea much better..but i started very painful stomach almost evey night..unbearAble pain...i am also have cancer as your wife...done chemo twice because my cancer recurance...did you suspect..the cause of your wife having gastritis...from chemo? Did your wife taking tamoxifen? Because mine..suspect the chemo and tamoxifen the main cause...

thx anyway for your great information.

What do you mean young greens?

not overly mature when combining with mature leaves stems

claudio

wife refused chemo. wife's atrophic gastritis was from severe gall bladder attacks..these are like a muscle cramp, severe pain.

Tamox was initially prescribed by the lead onco.

and confirmed by 2nd opinion from Stanford.

I'm confident chemo can cause Gastritis..My understandingnis

L-Glutamine is used in combo with chemo to combat the nasty stomach

side effects. we did the CA125 and CEA every 2 months for 3 years and

now at 6 month intervals. claudio

Hi All, lovely that more people are joining in.

re juicing, mornings I juice apple and raw ginger and blend with spriolina and wheatgrass.

i juice a combination of fruit and veg. More veg than fruit. And generous amounts of spinach, kale and cabbage, mixed in.

then I put in Nutribullet and blend in avocado. 

Sometimes i blend fruit juice with yoghurt and banana.

i also make my own soup.

i don't add any other spices.

if I only use Nutribullet for fruit n veg I find it too much for my stomach, as it still has to do some digesting. Whereas the juice goes straight to nourishing me and my digestion can rest.

somedays I only have juices or soups when my stomach feels shakey,

im going back to GP tomorrow to see about WBC.

 This is only what I have found helps me. 

 

Jayne, IV had low WBC since 2004, it had nothing to do with the gastritis, I was taking a drug called Vioxx , it was for my back, they took it off the market so many people got heart attacks, for me it was my low white count, I have managed, it's still low with my gastritis, I've tried every supplement and nothing helps. I was taking neupogen injections when it gets real low like below 2.0. What are your number. Make sure you take B12 lozenges at least 6000mcg. I got my b12 up to 1800 from 300. I get Jarrow brand on amazon. It also helps the red count.

i don't do any juices except aloe vera WATER and coconut water. But good for potassium.

 

Thanks tons Jayne,

and yes...its very valuable that others chip in.....Irene suggests B12...agree plus...with fos...sub lingual...if if....

I'm a tad concerned...is your intake of protein only from avacodo, yogurt,and maybe soup? I know there are conflicting studies regarding the relationship between protein and WBC's....I'd err in favor that protein

is necessary for bone health, thus the marrow that makes the wbc ought to benefit.

This is a guess..if the intake of easy digestive protein is adequate....the relationship between gastritis and low WBC's is the lack of complete breakdown of protein.mainly in the stomach where pepsin is the big player, and once in the small intestine...if too bulky...the enzymes cannot catabolize for futher processing. I'll go back to my notes to be certain more than a mere guess.

Do you know what amount of protein in gm's you need daily and are they adequate?

Today....first time in 100 plus years....wife and I breakfast outed...pancakes and saussage....She ate a lot more pancakes than I would have prepared at home...but she ate only 1/2 of her saussage serving...made me most happy....we then went for our usual exercise along the beach...usually not so quickly after a meal...I did my 3 miles but only a walk vs a jog...and she did maybe 2 miles of slow walking and taking pics of the birds/boats/water.......no issues...for lunch will be very light, minimum protein, and all super digestives...will do the Jayne juicing for last meal today using the nutri bullet with limited quantity/volume........Claudio

I have jotted down B12 to ask the GP. Thanks for that.

if I'm only juicing I Mae sure I put spirolina in whichever is full of protein. Today I have had Sunday lunch. First time for an age. It included chicken. I eat eggs and some cheese. But I is the question most people ask about, what about the protein ? Have you heard of Jason Vale. He tells you all about the value of juicing and protein. 

It sounds like you had a lovely day. Just had my juice. Spinach,cucumber,carrot, sweet potato and avocado. Best wishes to your wife. Jayne

thanks again for the well wishes...will tell wife...she's gardening, developing a Japanese garden...has been at it for a few days...interesting...she's a city girl...freaks out if a fly gets in the house, stops all till she sends it to fly heaven.

Missed spirolina..sorry...how many mg"s daily?...do recall a recent study re IL4 and how it modulated the immune response in a very positive way.

Recall specifically it was ineffective at less than 2000mg.

I won't get into the spirolina subject due to my bias...Maybe will next year

A clarification about our outing...we don't eat poisons often or practically ever....processd foods are poisons (out definition).

Next month is our combo blood labs...would like to see no abnormals....while her WBC's were low..not like Irene, whew...

her absolute mono and lymphocytes were good...its the low wbc's neutriphils that would have me concerned....

She hasn't even caught a cold in the past 18 months...so the low WBC's maybe a lab range glitch? Claudio

Hi, I had my first blood test in July WBC 3.2 then month later 3.5 next month 3.3 last time 3.1 

its not as low as yours, but it's weird how it's not getting any better. But I feel ok just a bit tired and achy. Do you feel like this?

Ines, when you say maple syrup do you mean the real syrup not the corn syrup kind. I bought the real stuff and I put it on my gluten free pancakes, and it was delicious. My biggest problem is the gastroparesis,my stomach doesn't empty like a normal stomach like yours. So when I eat too much at any meal, I'm done for the day as far as eating. When I went to dietician, she focused on gastroparesis,,not the gastritis. So it's a mix match of suggestions, about what to eat and not. 

Yes I meant the real maple syrup. Its ph level is 5 I think, which is ok. I try to not abuse it and have it on special occasions only. It is not particularly soothing but it is not bad either. I avoid corn syrup, independently of gastritis, it is not good for health.

Lady, do you think I'm not absorbing my food. If I eat a real large meal it will sit in my stomach for hours with a lot of discomfort. Were you taking Reglan? How long were up on it?. I wish I could eat salads, muffins. It's funny, my car is full of bananas, apples, almond butter rice cakes, someone told me in emergency keep so me jars of baby food of fruits and vegetables there easy to pop open and eat, or just put in your yogurt or cottage cheese.

just some extra calories to put in stomach, have you heard about goats milk someone told me they can't do dairy but can drink gots milk. I'm gonna give it a try. Do you drink any coffee? I gave that up 7 months ago. Miss t source, just the smell makes me crazy. I love your idea of the maple syrup I tried on my sweet potatoes was delicious.

Hi Jayne,

you were to have blood work done a few days a go...maybe to soon for results? please let us know....btw...looked at 3 year diary..wife's wbc's all over the place...ups an downs with the lymphocytes and monocytes.

claudio.

Hi yes I've got them back. They've dropped again. More tests next week. They are going to test B12 and something else. They are also testing for Gluten intolerance. They said to eat bread or it won't show anything. I was dreading eating it, but I've been fine. 

My Gastritis seems to be under control for now. I'm still juicing every day, I'm sure it helps. 

Your diary idea is a great one. Think I'm going to start, I do jot things down but will write more incase in need to look back and see what was happening to me. Thanks for thinking about me 

Wife's wbc's dropped to as low as 1.9 but then bounced back up to 3.1..like mentioned ..all a lotta ups and downs? I can only guess lack of protein absorption.

She has now been gastritis symptom free since the beginning of the month..two tests...food reactions of course..but also stomach touch...when she was full blown gastritis..stomach was likethe head on a snare drum so very tight and super sensitive to the touch...when it was mild...it was yet sensitive but no subsequent pains after light touching..now zip..stomach is "soft". She has not gained a single pound once she arrived at 104.lbs...arms skinny..but she has plenty of energy..without fatigue as before.

I will begin a "body building" protocol for a week to see how it goes (these people are great lab meese).....my formula will be: 6 oz of 2% milk, 3 tblsp of Whey Isolate, 2gm L-Glutamine, 3 tblsps of yogurt, 1 tablespoon of Flax oil..nutri bullet...will be her first intake the minute after bathroom washing face hands etc...so 30 minutes or so before normal breakfast.

Will let you know any results good...bad...indifferent. She is post menopausal..so I don't worry about soy.protein but whey digests so much faster, thought it best.my target is yet 114lbs....Claudio

Just a flag....I wrote jarrow f's yesterday requesting a clarification as to why they continue to use "malodextrin" (MDX). Its has been identified as protecting some of the salmonella toxins by disabling anti bacteria responses......I got a very disappointiong reply stating they test all products for toxins? 

Re wrote them explaining the concern is if MDX disables anti bacteria activity for salmonella...its possible it also does the same for other forms of toxins?...I may request Mary R in Syndey Au if she has any info..she's a top  research nerd and has been very accommodating answering questions like mine........but will wait for jarrow's response......Claudio

Wow she did drop low! Mine are 3.1.  Last one was 3.3 highest was 3.5 so it's going down hill. I'm trying to eat more protien. Trouble is you get a bit scared as you don't want to set it all off again. I'm not too worried about my weight as long as it doesn't go down any lower. I've Ben th same for about a month. My stomach was the same when you touched it very tight. Now it feels normal. Keeping up the exercise is helping too I'm sure. Hoping your wife carries on feeling well 

Thanks,

it may not be "more is better"...its absorption....some oil or fat with protein should help....I too worried about excess protein giving her stomach renewed problems...got to the point gave her mostly easy digesting ocean fish...no shell.

Exercise must be a good connection..both you and wife have been physically active...wife does qigong that includes slow movements, stretching, deep breathings...then its doing hill work, returns always pretty wet.

3.1 isn't a big deal....when I switched labs...many of the resulting numbers were not the same?? However for the past 3 plus years, have only used a second lab twice..for a 2nd opinion.

Absolute Lymphocytes and Monocytes are the wbc's that fight infections...keeping these within range is important....claudio