How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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hilde33174 Suki_girl
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Have anyone that experienced the shooting pain seen a physio? I am wondering because I'm scared that she is gonna massage/touch and then the strong shooting is gonna happened and then I'm right back to start.
I know I'm still really sensitive since I tried to massage my butt because it hurt from sitting too much on the donut and I felt the strong shooting. Luckily that nerve was not the one that is connected to the problem area.
However that freaks me out so much since she does not know when it's too much pressure or she is touching the wrong area.
She triggered it and now I don't know what to do because I kind of need to see hear again at some point. And I don't blame her for triggering the shooting. Maybe it was necessary to trigger it to make it all go away. It was my fault I had to start all over again.
But now I don't know what to do. I asked my acupuncturist and she does not know when it is time to start that up again. I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. I know I just have to try and hope for the best. But how can you when you know that one simple touch can make it hell again.
I guess I just ask for everyones advice. I want to hear it from someone who actually knows how it is.
hilde33174
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her again* agh, sorry for my english. It's not the best. Hopefully you understand what I'm writing.
susan05495 hilde33174
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ive not tried physio but am currently pain free as my hormones have been adjusted as i am on HRT.
i know you have had a lot of pain and things are settling down for you so i would personally not risk it
hilde33174 susan05495
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Thank you for your time to answer. Did you have the acupuncture? Or was the hormone adjustment the only thing you had to do to get pain free?
Cheltgirl38 Suki_girl
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hi i'm newly diagnosed would I be able to email you ?
i'm really desperate for help
Suki_girl Cheltgirl38
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I have private messaged you. You can message me back.
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I have not updated anyone yet because I wanted to wait until it was gone. Well, I am a lot better thanks to the acupuncture however it just seems like I cannot get rid off it like all of it.
I don't know what I should do. I can walk and it does not hurt that much anymore. I still sit on the donut. I'm scared to try to sit without it again. However, when I lay on my side with my legs together it still hurts a bit. It's better but not fine you know. I just want to get all of it away. What do you guys think I should do?
My acupuncturist told me I should go and see a physiotherapist. She told me that because it looks like it just won't let go and the acupuncture just does not do anything anymore.
I'm wondering if I should go up on the ami dose? Currently I use 50mg. I went a little bit down because I did not feel any difference.
I use the lidocaine cream still but not as often. I don't feel like it does anything either anymore. I just keep using them because it might calm the nerves even though it I don't feel it.
Do you have some suggestions? I need help because I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like I'm waisting my money going to the acupuncturist every week.
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I also forgot to say. I checked my estrogen level and all of that. My doctor said it was normal.
I'm wondering if it is the urinary infection that triggered it. I thought it was the antibiotics, but I got urinary infection again now..
The pharmacy lady told me the medicine combination I use can also give me frequent urinary infection.
I feel like it might be due to the urinary infection because it never really went away with any medicine or cure I took. I just all of a sudden was gone and then I got vulvodynia.
• Do you think I should try seeing a physiotherapist? I'm so scared. I talked about it before.
• Should I go higher up on my ami dose even though it does not hurt that much?
• I just don't know what to do. I think I might try physiotherapy, but I would love to hear what you guys think?
• Have you ever been in this situation?
• Have anyone experienced the leg situation when you lay in your bed?
susan05495 hilde33174
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hi , ive not tried physiotherapy but others have on this forum . i am on a much higher dose of ami than you and ive been pain free for 3 months now .
i would suggest you try phsysio first and if no relief go up on your ami if you tolerate it .
Good to hear you have had some improvement .
hilde33174 susan05495
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I booked a session tomorrow with the physio. I'm scared it will get worse. Well, I know it will get a little bit worse before it get's better. I read that I think someone on this forum said that.
Have you had the thing with the leg when you sleep on the side?
Suki_girl hilde33174
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So pleased to hear the acupuncture helped and sorry to hear it didn't take you all the way to pain free. I would up the amitriptyline dose. Try to get up to 75mg. and, yes, why not try physio, it will help you to relax the pelvic floor muscles. Did you try manual desensitisation? I also did that to retrain the nerves.
susan05495 hilde33174
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i think you need to give it a try. I have not had any leg pain . Let us know how you get on
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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Okay, thanks I will try. I'm just scared to try new thing now that everything is better again.
hilde33174
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Yes, I will.
Suki_girl hilde33174
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i know exactly what you mean. you are worried it might make it worse. perhaps try upping the ami first, give it a while, and if that doesnt work try physio. You have actually done amazingly well. You have improved so much quicker than i did. When did you start acu? I did find that it took another few months before that final small amount of discomfort / soreness went away. The ami and acu have set you on the right path, now your body needs to finish healing itself. Also, try manual desensitisation - it may help those nerves to retrain.
Suki_girl
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Can I ask what type of acu you had - was it traditional / chinese or medical / western? Did they use electricity?
marina91325 hilde33174
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hi Hilde, i had pain in my leg...its like a nerve, kicks you suddenly. the pain was on the back of my leg, on and off. it comes and goes.
Suki_girl marina91325
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pain down the back of the leg sounds a lot like sciatica / sciatic nerve pain.
Suki_girl
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easy to test. Lay on your back and get someone to push your straight leg (on the painful side) up as far as it will go. If you get that shooting pain it is sciatica.
hilde33174 marina91325
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I think I explained it wrong. I don't have nerve pain or shooting in my leg. It's just when I lay with my legs on the side witch you do when you sleep on the side it's not really comfortable. I can feel something in my vulva (problem area). And also I could feel the shooting pain when I massaged my butt area. However it did not hurt in my problem area so I was really lucky.
I have decided to go and see the physiotherapist tomorrow. I'm gonna ask her to be really gentle and not do much.
I want it to be all gone and I need to go there some day anyway because of my vaginismus. I would be scared about it getting worse if the vulvodynia was gone anyways. So I guess it's just better doing it now rather than when the vulvodynia is gone and then she massage it and it comes back.
joan86718 hilde33174
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when you take antibiotics, do u drink KEFIR-helps your gut
hilde33174 joan86718
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Yes. I also use probiotics.